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#1210955
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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joebocop said:

are there any plans to restructure the start of this film, to try and make sense of the plan to save Han.

I can understand if not, as it is ‘revisited’ rather than ‘restructured’. But really think this is one of the weakest parts of the film.

Read some of the comments from the last few months.

MalàStrana said:

Don’t forget to ask him about the deleted scenes.

Hahahaha

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#1209068
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The Force Awakens - Ridley's Edit (WIP)
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Fair, I hadn’t thought about the timing. But actually I have an idea. What about only having one spy, say something like “They’re here” or “It’s here” but its ambiguous who is being notified. Still have tension but we can assume that the resistance is the one being told, and that the first or found out. Or vice verse and Maz told Poe because apparently they’re best buds (stupid TLJ).

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#1208709
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The Force Awakens - Ridley's Edit (WIP)
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Sir Ridley said:

The resistance gets alerted first which makes the spy reveal less surprising. But it’s no big deal, its probably better to just leave it in. I’ll consider changing the subtitles though, that’s a good idea!

Um, could you restructure the scene so that we see the FO spy send a message, then after the FO arrive and we go to the R droid and it starts to notify the Resistance, but gets cut off be an explosion (the ties bombing the castle). So it can go from Maz saying “there here” to the droid (you can change the sub to whatever and dub chatter for screaming) before an explosion effect fills the screen and to Rey arriving and then looking in horror as we cut to the outside being destroyed and collapsing. Or something.

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#1196575
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The Force Awakens - Ridley's Edit (WIP)
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Few, that was a lot of stuff to read. OK, I only ready most of the comments so if I’m treading old ground, sorry.
I was really impressed with you cutting/editing list, I think you have excellent taste. But it is Star Wars so obviously I have an opinion and yes, I’ll keep it brief(ish).
I don’t really know what replacing the main theme will entail, so well I’d need to see/hear it to form an opinion. I’m also unsure about a few of the minor changes involving FX work, often good edits fall short here but I have faith that you won’t Lucas it and go ahead even if obviously not working.
I do like the idea of using some shots form the teasers, some where very iconic and I was sand to see them go (no chance for Kylo’s saber ignition I suppose?).
As far as some of the discussed topics I’ll start with saying cut Luke form the ending. It threw of the pacing and I clearly remember myself and half the audience starting to stand as and cheer just as Rey left the planet, only to slump back confused and wandering if we were in for another half hour.
As for the Kylo reveal, I’d say don’t remove the Snoke scene, we get little enough of him as it is. I’d move it or just cut part of the dialogue. Maybe if it when after Kylo had discovered Solo on Star Killer? IDK. More importantly cut whatever mension Han/Leia make to having a son, until the point that you with to make the reveal (Which I guess is when they are talking just before Han goes to Star Killer?) and keep the “grandfather” line, that way the audience might at first assume Luke to be Kylo father; maybe?
That island scene magnifique! But if I were to critique it, I would say try to make the dunes and the island line up. Otherwise leave it looks sooo pretty.
Don’t remove Ren’s wrath, the fact that he is an “imputation child” is just part of his character and gives him somewhere to grow from (become less childish).
OK I think that it for the discussed items. Now my ideas…
Now I could’t tell from you list but just in-case you weren’t planning on it, could you do something about how Finn gets his name? The way it happens is soooo forced: “F, N uh? I’m gonna call you Finn!”(?!)
Finn’s “that one heck of a pilot” line, it s just weird.
Is it possible to vary up some of the X-wings, with some different colours, it just seems odd how everyone has a uniform blue/white X-wing and then Poe is the only one with a half way unique version. Also if his is the only unique one then why was he not using his own when he went to Jakku?
I can’t think of anything else so I’ll leave you with one question: If your using TFA:Restructured, does that mean that all the changes form that will stay? Its just they all worked, and where executed flawlessly. I’m mostly referring to the addition of the deleted scene with the woman we see on Hosnian prime. See her be sent by Leia to warn the republic only to be caught by the Hyperspace beam really made that whole thing feel just that little bit more tragic.

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#1196405
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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OK, I got it to re-dl. It works now and can I just say, thank you. This IS the best TFA edit.
Having what it all the way through, it still has the same problem as the original: The ending. If you plan to make any additional changes, maybe to fit with a TLJ edit (if your going to attempt that) then you could try removing the closing scenes of Rey finding Luke. This way you could end it with Rey leaving (on an adventure) and they wouldn’t get repeated in TLJ. Just an idea. Still can’t love the Star Killer change enough lol.

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#1195748
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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OK, so I dl the 1080p version using the torrent but when I tried to play it, it will only play for a few minutes at a time (it seem that it breaks at specific intervals, maybe at the ‘chapter’ points, but idk for sure). When using windows video player it crashes the program (and comes up with this error code 0xc00d36cb but it doen’t do this for any of the other videos I possess so it must be something to do with this one), and when using VLC it skips half the film. Anyone else experience the problem, or know how to fix it? I’d really appreciate your help.

PS. I did skip ahead to some of the bigger changes and can I just say bravo to all that participated in this fan edit.

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#1189290
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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I made a mock up of it (yes, ik this is battle of Yavin but this had the greatest concentration of X-wings) and I changed to tint so that they look less CG it was so shiny in a matt world, just stood out in a bad way. As they are always referred to as red squadron I figure they should all have some red on them, maybe the patterns on the wings could always be red. I assume that the original idea was that they would have as many bands as corresponds to the pilots call sign, red Leader, two, three (Luke’s had five). That would also explain how they reconsidered each other’s ships and who to hail.

Saying this I just noticed that Luke’s X-wing isn’t his, they used red two’s fighter but Luke’s helmet and R2. SE = sigh…

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#1189127
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Adywan, when you get to editing the battle over Endor (and the trench run in ANH-HD) could you change the colours of some on the X-wings as it has literally always bothered me how they all have the same coloured panels even when its meant to be random (maybe Y-wings, B-wings and A-wings but they aren’t as noticable). They also all have R2 when its not a cockpit view so if you can make some of them green or red, or even R5s that could be cool. Just a suggestion.

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#1183000
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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doubleofive said:

Remember how the Legends EU was supposed to be “what’s happening just the right of camera”? Just imagine that all the things you want to happen during the movies are happening just to the side there. 😉

Haha, like Tag and Bink. They should be added to special features. Just have Ady and someone else cameo, then play out a couple of scenes form the comic. That would make an awesome gag real.

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#1182446
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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FVDnz said:

I’m down for a Rogue One-esque cameo during the Battle of Endor and I actually wouldn’t mind Ady hiring an extra dressed up as Hera for the Home One briefing. Now if only Dodonna and Riekkan could have been present in some capacity. Lucas really dropped the ball there.

Nah, its not needed. Just remember that this little speck is the ghost.

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#1179946
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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If any references are made I’d rather them be subtle, back-background one. We don’t want to end up with the special editions or Rogue One again.

Oh and also HelloGreedo brought up an excellent point about the Han Rescue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhvDfkQK2gQ
Any ideas on how that can be “solved”/made less flimsy?

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#1179234
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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sonofjones said:

So what if instead it were made so Anakin died on the shuttle after it had already escaped the Death Star? Then we transition back to Han and Leia on Endor and any celebration there that might happen, then have the ending Adywan described (Luke burning his father’s body alone as the Jedi ghosts look on).

That actually sounds pretty awesome, I’d love to see that in the edit. The only hitch is how difficult it might be for Adywan to pull off, he could probably do it but it would take even more time and effort.

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#1176132
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Well thank you, DominicCobb for your ‘valuable insight’ into the life of a belligerent sycophant. I’m sure Adywan feels so grateful to have such ‘Cobb’ (<— we all know what should be there) protecting his forum from off topic posters such as myself.
I am not someone to turn away from criticism. I am sure that there is a perfectly good reason why my opinion and attempt at constructive criticism to a topic of discussion - re-cutting the climactic battle of ROTJ, to more resemble the pacing of TLJ’s one - was so appalling to you, even when so many other had joined in. I am sure if I asked you would kindly and graciously, offer up to me some exquisite examples, of valuable and insightful comments, of you own.
But I urge you not to bother, for I am resourceful and found some of you finest comments (which I am sure Adywan found most helpful) and shall in future use these as a template for my own:
“I would like to declare that I have never read a James Patterson novel.”
“Um, no.”
“No. Just… no.”
"Hahahahahahaha"
So if we are all in agreement, I’ll leave you with: Um, no. Just… James Patterson novels. Hahahaha

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#1176072
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Matt.F said:

RE: Editing / jumps between the three sequences of ROTJ’s climax.

I recently listened to a Rian Johnson podcast where he spoke about editing TLJ

Why would you use TLJ as a source for editing tips? I don’t want this to turn into a slag off session of TLJ but apart of some question plot decisions (Leia flying), the editing department was what really let the movie down.
Now I liked the climactic battle between Ray, Kylo and the guards but I hated that every time I got invested in it, it cut away. If you are going to cut from a tense moment, it’s best to cut to another tense moment and keep going back and forth regularly to give a sense of urgency. Other wise you should leave it to play out in full, but that is less effective if the situation is meant to be a climax, as it makes it makes it appear to happen sequentially rather than concurrently.

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#1171071
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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OK, so first off while i agree a build up to the puppet master would be cool, as already stated, its to late. ESB has revealed The Emperor and so leaving the main villain till the last 20 minuets (don’t quote me on that) would be pointless,
Second the early scenes of The Emperor, specifically his arrival on the DS2, are very important in setting up the differences between Vader and The Emperor. When Vader arrives he is greeted by a force of about 30-40 troops however, when The Emperor arrives they are in a massive hanger with hundreds of troops. These really serve to show how vain and politically powerful The Emperor appears, as with any tyrant his power comes mostly from his followers (although his is shockingly good when it comes to the force) and it sets up his death to come so easily once he is betrayed by his most loyal subject.

Oh and sorry for the “Joke” i just couldn’t resist.

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#1167506
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Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone [Revisited] (Released)
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[CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM]

OK lighting is important in visual story telling and the grey lighting in the POA+ films is representing the dark nature of those films. This just isn’t’ the case in the first to films which are meant to be more innocent and adventurous. If anything the later films should be altered slightly as the grey filter is heavy an over used, but still needed. You shouldn’t be adding that to the first two films though, that just shows your (please don’t take this a an insult) naivety, when it comes to the uses of visual effects and atmosphere.

Oh and the removal of all subplot from the movie, also a big no no when it comes to making anything … good. The later films suffered for it (though american audiences still lapped up enough of the fight sequences to make the millions) which can be seen in the increasing dependence on CGI where more time consuming (and there for more expensive) practical effects would have been more suitable. I am not saying CGI is bad, its good when used properly, but it wasn’t in later films. Therefore it is a bit foolish to model your remaster to fit with the shallow (in terms of subplot) moves 3-8.

You really show you lack of understanding when you removed and reduced the muggle section of the story. The entire success of Harry Potter as a franchise can be traced back to J K Rowling’s decision to start with the mundane and build to the magic before ending with drama and tragedy (both the tragedy come mostly in later films). Of course you have decided to remove the magical opening which is good! However, removing is perhaps not the best of ideas as it does serve a crucial part is that ever elusive (to you) over arching subplot. Simply put Hagrid brings harry to No. 4 and Hagrid takes him away.

Never the less I could go on about every single narrow minded point you’ve made about the changes you are making, but your still going to make them. All I can really say is if you are thinking of making a career of film making as I feel that someone with the passion and dedication to make an edit such as this (for all its floors) might, get your head out of the colour by numbers how to make a action flick book, like they have at ‘Hollywood’ ATM. Now good luck I DO I am hope you are pleased with you achivement, but I must leave you with these few words “… Much more, but my hands are tiering”.

P.S. RESCORE!??!?!?! Remove the John Williams score!??!?!?! “Are You Mad?!?!?”