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Ronster said:

The first shot inside the deathstar control room with tarkin facing the screen would be better to remove Alderaan entirely and outer space have a graphic or readouts… The reason being if Alderaan is on the screen why is Leia so surprised when he says “home planet of Alderaan” as if it was not there already. This was meant to be a “reveal” Leia looks stupid. It’s not your fault but it could be better to hear the sound of screen changing then cut to viewscreen with Alderaan in orbit.

I don’t this that would fix the issue as Admiral Motti litterally says they have entered the Alderaan system quite clearly as Leia walks up to Tarkin. I also don’t feel like she is surprised by them being at her “home planet of Alderaan” I think its more the “I have chosen to test this station’s destructive power on your home planet of Alderaan” bit, that she was upset about.
Personally I don’t this is an issue the way it already is.

Tantive3+1 said:

I wouldn’t attempt going at the Tatooine Sandstorm sequence as that scene IMO is unnecessary, but I might go ahead at it for the sake of it.

Haha, I love how awful that sanstorm is and how those guys are just having a chat, but then in Phantom menace a lil bit of dust blows around an they all need to take shelter.
Its something I’m hoping to mimic in a prequal edit if I ever get around to it, but that scene I agree is redundent, its just an alternate version of the scene where they all split up, teh dialog is the same. I would say tho that of any scene I which was added into ROTJ its something where Luke returns to his Aunt and Uncle’s or at least Ben’s as its odd he wouldn’t want to at least see them as he is on his home world. It could also be an exelent tie into why he arrives late or a clue as to where he gets his cristal and saber design (Obi Wan’s house).
Sadly I don’t think those shots could be cobbled together with the limited amount of clean footage, so I doubte its within the scope of any Fan Edit. Still nice to dream though.

EddieDean said:

It’s to show she’s a true Skywalker. True Skywalkers react the most emotionally over the deaths of people they’ve literally just met. Aunt and Uncle foster parents that you’ve known your whole life charred to bits? No reaction. Old hermit you’ve just met chooses to die fighting a cyborg? Big sad.

Lol, but also Luke hadn’t only just met Obi Wan he had met him in passing a few times, though yes he didn’t get to know him until a few hour (days?) earlier. However, I’d say that was the most important part of their relationship. Its when Ben openned up about being a Jedi and brought Luke closer than ever to his father than ever before in his whole life. And that is what Luke lost on the Death Star, The only link he had had and might ever have, to his father, plus the last remaining link to his home.
Luke showed his love for Owen and Beru when he rushed off to save them and when he found himself to late he was devesated to the point of generating the most touching peice of music in history out of the force. That says A LOT!

Also is this thread dead???

EvantheKidDS said:

Idea:

(I don’t know how long the image will be up but, I hope you can be able to see it…)

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Okay, I was just browsing YouTube and I came across this video and it got me thinking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3b_S_qtBgc

Now I’m suggesting remaking all the shot in 3D I don’t think it will feel right, however some of the interesting things they brought up in what the original composit lacked could be added I think.

Things like the shadowing on the fighters where some of them should be darker because they are in the shadow of the trench, could be simply achieved. Shadows on the trench might be harder.

Also I’m sure this is already on the list but fixing blue screen artifacts around the fighters and explosions.

Obviously it would be silly to add try and add the missing lighting from lasers and this wouldn’t mesh well with the visual style of the rest of the film however the lighting direction could be fixed similar to how Ady said the outside of the cantina.

TLDR: Just some simple compositing fixes that would really step up the trench run sequence.

adywan said:

Crossvader said:

We haven’t had any updates from Ady in a good long while now, hope the project is going well!

I haven’t had any internet for over 2 months. Only just got it back today. I’ve got a lot of catching up to do now

The man’s like Luke, all cut of form what surrounds us and penetrates us, and binds us all together (the internet). Lets just hope he ins’r returnin all grumpy and depressing. Good have you back, hope the world isn’t treatin you and your family to unkindly. 😄

This is just confusing. Their arms are the same in RO as in ANH??? What adywan did was chnage who’s arm got chopped off, to match what happens in the scene. We see Dr Evazan pull a gun to shoot Ben, then Ben cuts at Evazan and Ponda’s arm ends up on the floor with the blaster. So Ady switch the arms to make it so that Evazan’s arm is on the floor, becuase it makes more sence with what we saw happen. It was a mistake born form Geoge Lucas’s inexperiance with fight scene at the time, quite why he never thought to adress it as one of the many chnages he made in his SE I can’t fathom.

marioxb said:

How does those guys’ appearance in Rogue One change which arm it should be?

^^This

May the forth be with you all 😄

Adywan, I know you were planning on extending the spacebattle aboved Endor and creating a bunch of practical models to use for that, but I also know covid has thrown more than a few spanners in the works, so I was wondering if it has effected any of you plans. Correct me if I’m wrong but you never got a chance to do filming out at redwood park for the ground sequences so they will be delayed ofc, but I know keeping your pc running 24/7 to processes renders must be pricey so if you were looking for cheeper alternatives to crafting, filming and compositing pratical models you could take a look at these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhalNJJPc3o

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiu9hJpuBJMCEIotUFYYV0A

They seem to have mastered the look the endor fight and practical models perfectly but with 3D renders instead. I genuinly don’t know if thats helpful or not, if you know about them someone might have posted about one of them a while back but I couldn’t find it to check so I figured I’d post this just in case.

Obviouly it would be great to see practical effects in action if that still possible but again I jsut wanted to lyk there are other options if you need them.

Also wanted to check how you’re doing, not your project, you. And Mrs Adywan. Hope you’re both well and staying safe.

Yeah i mean the blinking really brings him to life, and I love how expressive he is now.

Merry Life Day everyone!!

Knight of Kalee said:

Maybe this could mean not a more conclusive “death” but a less ridiculous defeat that still could leave room for his survival.

Hopefully, but its so ambiguous rn I was just wondering.

BedeHistory731 said:

Did you watch the premiere of this season of The Mandalorian? If not, Fett’s armor fell into new hands. The guy who owned it then, Cobb Vanth, might have tweaked the helmet’s voice modulation settings. That would explain the difference in voices.

Ohhhhh, I get what you mean now, thanks for clarifying!!

ChainsawAsh said:

I mean…I don’t see how that changes anything. How else do you think he lost the armor and got scarred to shit?

This is what I’m talking about, this could be a problem with continuity:

adywan said:

ROTJ: REVISITED – PRODUCTION BEGINS & DONATION DRIVE

New Boba Fett death

So I wanted to know if the latest episodes change Ady’s plans.

BedeHistory731 said:

Let’s just say Cobb Vanth removed the voice-altering settings from the OOT/Revisited.

One what does that mean.^^

Two in general voice does not bother me, its the other lil fact thats going to be interesting as far as how its handled. That whole Jabba’s sail barge bit. With the Sarlac. And faulty Jetpacks…

exitzero said:

Going to be great-can’t wait!
With Blank’s appearance in Mandalorian and a rumored upcoming mini-series, any consideration for putting you-know-who’s voice over back in?

Oh that is a fair point, Ady you’ve said you had plans for that particular character in this edit but how will you be handling it given the new developments?

You are (please excuse my French) fucking mental Adywan. You are an absolute treasure to the community, now have a good break and a very Merry Christmas!

My brain has gradually melted over the last half dozen comments I just read. Genuinely you all sound like you were written by unedited George Lucas and all I can think to do is bow to my technologically savvy superiors. 😮

doubleofive said:

David Prowse was decades too old to play Anakin when they filmed the documentary. It’s not an option, even if it was available.

I agree but yeah, Shaw was also to old.

However, if this was to be done in any edit, I done think its a good idea to use the documentary footage either. The only way I think this would ever work, is with a Tarkin level cg Prowse and a deepfake, but that even more of a pipedream for this decade. 2030 though…?

Tantive3+1 said:

So in TESB when you see the back of Vader’s head when the helmet is being lowered, who was that portraying him? Was that Prowse?

Ngl can’t tell if that’s rhetorical or not. In case it isn’t, Prowse played all of the scene with Vader except the choreographed fight sequences, and took on less roles in ROTJ partly due to an injury and partly due to Lucas filming scenes in secret and behind his back, mostly prominent of which is of course the face reveal, which Prowse had (like with the voice) been promised to play. But again in secret Lucas met Shaw at some party and said hey do you want to be in my movie Star Wars to which Shaw was like ‘sure, what is star wars’. Even after the movie he couldn’t remember being in it and his casting was entirely for the star power.

TLDR: Yeah, Prowse had that head prosthetic on in the ESB scene.

BedeHistory731 said:

Also, Ady is keeping the Shaw ghost. It’d be weird to switch unmasked Vader but keep the Shaw ghost. Either do a “Prowse ghost” (which probably isn’t possible with extant footage) or keep it Shaw.

Haha! Idk, it would be kind of like a rogues gallery of Darth Vaders!

Matt.F said:

On this particular, and sad, day I’d also throw in my tuppence on the unmasking of Vader in ROTJ and Dave Prowse.

He may not have had the right voice (thankfully James Earl Jones did) but imho he certainly had the right look and could have and should have been the face of Vader at the finale of Jedi.

Even as a child the ‘kindly grandfather’ appearance and English thespian vocal delivery of Sebastian Shaw didn’t fit my expectation of what Vader should look or sound like. With the Prequel Trilogy casting an American actor ‘the English gent’ vocal delivery seems even more incongruous.

As we know from the documentary ‘I Am Your Father’ Dave Prowse filmed the unmasking sequence, I think if Adywan could get the blessing from the filmmakers to use it then it would be a massive coup for ROTJ Revisited, and perhaps… right a wrong for an actor that really deserved his moment without the mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbExdNBjOfQ

Oh, thats not really something I hoped to hear when I woke up this morning, but then again I’d never hope to hear Prowse’s passing.

I couldn’t agree more with most of what you’ve said however I don’t know how on earth you think Adywan is going to be able to get hold of that footage. Like they probably deleted it right after Disney’s lawyers started knocking at their door.

Tantive3+1 said:

ray_afraid said:

Hey, thanks!
I don’t think the idea suits the ideas behind Ady’s edit, but I’d love to see it come to life someday.

I got to admit that the pacing in the beginning of the film never worked for me. It starts off with Vader arriving in the DSII, then it cuts to Tatooine at Jabba’s palace rescuing Han where they get captured and fight at the Sarlaac pit for about 30 minutes, then the core of the story gets back on track on Dagobah with the Yoda and Obi-Wan scenes.

I also doubt that ady would implement something like this (he’s said in the past no deleted scenes) but it sounds cool for another edit. However i agree the pacing is a bit weird in the original. it doesn’t feel like the first half of the movie has anything todo with second so they chopped up the middle and sprinkled it all over the first act. the edit would also help with the whole luke not finishing his training but we do miss the whole “what i told you was true, from a certain point of view” which isn’t a good explination but its better than totally avoiding it. i would say that it would be better if it happened on endor tho. think about it, we open on dagubah, luke saying goo bye to yoda, then rather than luke just meeting obi wan there he would be stuck waiting, having not talked to him since esb, perhaps because obiwan is waiting till luke is ready. So luke would be struggling with anger the whole movie and make that moment he overcomes his anger way more powerful becasue he would have a more evident reason to be angry - obi wan was ignoring him for months/years - then when on endor when he is preparing to leave, he meets obiwan, who explains everything, tells him about leia and then we get the convo with her.
that way we have a more grounded opening before moving into tatooine and the ds scenes would feel less out of place because we could cut to vader after yoda says “you must face vader” (i think thats what he says). it would also work intercut with the tatooine sequence as it would explain where luke is and why they did the plan how they did, perhaps luke was going to be more active but he had to go see yoda again as he was dying. but they tried to go ahead with the plan without him, so he comes back late.
why not wait?? well they don’t know if han is still alive in there and he was coming closer to death everyday, hibernation sickness, (which temporarily blinds him) could have been worse with more time and could kill him. so they didn’t know what yoda wanted or if luke would be back for training for a long time (im guessing that luke did more training between the two movies, but had to leave to find a crystal for his saber).

but yeah that was way longer than i was planning, i think the pacing can never be perfect on rotj, but its not that good rn, so it could be changed for the better. (im not saying what ive said is better, but in my head it works, need to test it to be sure oc, one day … one day)

WOW, if anyone deserved a medal more than chewie its you, I’m dumbfounded y how much effort you put in.

On a side note I was wandering what plans you had for the ewok battle. I know that a lot of the silly stuff is going, and that there will be more rebel troops on the ground, but was far as the ewoks themselves did you have any plans on making their contribution to the battle more believable. I’m taking about a bunch of teddy bears with sticks and stones killing armored soldiers with laser guns.
If not, I think I have an idea that could work. So I was watching this video on all the explosions form Battlefront 2, and there was one that was super interesting to me. Basically the empire was attacking Naboo and they were winning but then the rebels used that hug orb thing that the Gungans gave Naboo in EP1, and it made a huge EM pulse that wiped out the Imperials weapons.
So you could do something similar on Endor, have the rebels fighting but being out matched and out gunned and then the Ewoks arrive, but are really useless and they are loosing (lots of dead teddies). Then Something happens that causes they EMP (TBH i don’t know what, maybe the shield generator causes it or something) and bam all the weapons go off. Then suddenly the Ewoks are really helpful.

IDK writing it down it seems like a bad idea, but it sounded good in my head 😕

Anyway great work Ady, you freaking space wizard.

Omg, it is sooooo satisfying to flick from the blurred frame to the fixed one. Thank you!