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#1383739
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Ady!

I know adding or editing any more scenes in A NEW HOPE is out of your wheel house since you’re focused on RETURN OF THE JEDI… but… I had a great idea, well, possibly a great idea. . I thought it would be cool to repurpose the Jabba scene between Han and Jabba in Mos Eisley Space Port. Is there a way to slightly alter the dialog and replace Jabba (either the human or CGI) with Boba Fett? That way it would give a little more background and tension between Han and Boba throughout the rest of the Trilogy. If this is even plausible to edit in? It would be cool seeing Boba being an ambassador for Jabba. Seeing Jabba trust Boba to negotiate for him and at the same time telling Han that he is lucky Jabba hasn’t set him(Boba)lose on Han. It also would be funny seeing Boba mentioning Greedo’s death, maybe saying something a long the lines, “You fried poor Greedo, good, I didn’t like him that much anyways.” or at the end of the conversation Han could say, “Boba, you’re a wonderful clone” or “Boba, your a wonderful Mandolrine”. That would be an example of Han poking at him because he is a clone and he is not really a Mando (as of now) we’ll have to see how the rest of the Mandolrine plays out. Thoughts?

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#1364334
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Info: Has anyone heard more about Star Ep9: Rise of Skywalker’s The J.J. Abrams Cut??
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There is no way that JJ is proud of this cut. This is not the caliber of film he would make. I know he is a hit and miss guy (some times), but this movie was a mess, not a JJ standard. I guarantee there was a lot of executives who were meddling with the story. I am sure there is a cut that JJ would prefer to have out, but the big wigs have the final say. JJ, or any director/actor, is always gonna respond to the media with excellent feed back regarding their work because it is in the best interest of the company and the film. He’s not gonna bash the hand that feeds him or something he co-created. He probably is just done with the lack of leadership and direction going on at LUCAS-FILM.

Broom Kid said:

NeverarGreat said:

Broom Kid said:

There is no secret cut. He put out exactly what he wanted to put out. Nobody made him edit the movie the way he did. He did that on his own.

Source?

JJ Abrams?

The fact there are movies that were “meddled in” (again - movies having turbulent production is a fact of movies. Was Empire Strikes Back “Meddled with?” Or just MADE?) doesn’t mean JJ’s was. I’m taking the history of the production (which is very public) and plenty of their own words (just as public) and also taking into account the man’s larger filmography, of which this is very consistent.

There is no “secret cut” - the question of one is clickbait from conspiracist YouTubers who are scumming for subscribes. It gains traction because people think the act of making movies is much more clandestine and covert than it really is, and they’re not familiar (despite watching hours upon hours of behind the scenes footage they’ve since mythologized) with things like “Assembly Cuts” so when they hear about a film having an Assembly Cut, they “report” it to their breathless subscribers as some sort of secret hidden cut that’s being withheld from the TRUE FANS.

Unless you’re trying to gain subscribers for Google ad money, there’s nothing in it for anyone to perpetuate any idea beyond “JJ Abrams made a bad movie.” He made a bad movie full of bad decisions. He’s done it before. So has George Lucas. Star Wars fans should, at this point, have come to terms with the fact it’s a 50/50 shot their movie is going to be ok when it comes out. There’s no real point in searching for excuses when it doesn’t, because it happens so frequently it shouldn’t be a surprise or a Miss Marple Mystery to dig into as to WHY it happened.

Abrams did this to himself. Dunno why anyone would think otherwise. All the evidence is out in the open and offered up freely. He’s not a beleagured artist being oppressed by suits. He IS the suits. If there was corporate meddling, he IS that meddling. He was called in to “fix” the movie, and this is what his fix looked like. He blew it, and that’s on him. It’s not really any more complicated than that. There’s no secret cut of this movie.

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#1342714
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Im a graphic designer not much of an editor, but I’ll take a stab at it since I have creative cloud and know how to use, Audition, Premier, and After Effects. I think its time I contribute something to the community instead of being a stalker.

FYI: Mace from the “The Ewok Adventures” is the best Star Wars character, possibly even of all cinematic history, that ever was created. So deep and complex! 😛

idir_hh said:

Tammer5 said:

So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the finally scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

I saw your post and I though it was neat idea, anything that adds more closure to the ending is welcome in my book! Just needs someone with the chops to implement it.

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#1342705
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the final scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

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#1342258
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Oh, yeah keep everything all the same just add 3PO and R2 to the scene. I figured they have seen it all they should probably be there at the end with their friends.

snooker said:

Maybe establishing Chewie chess shot -> sandcrawler shot -> shot of poe and finn staring at Chewie?

I really don’t want to lose Rey walking down the ramp with everyone yelling in the background

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#1342231
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Great idea! Wonderful execution! If I may… I think it would be great if there is a way you could add a clip with R2 and 3PO. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 and just having him doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin. Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

snooker said:

https://streamable.com/cekikp

This edit helps cement the idea that these people are a family now, instead of Rey being completely alone on a desert planet at the end. Her friends are there waiting for her : )

It also helps explain why BB-8 is there, he’s just a curious little friend : )

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#1320141
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TFA: A Gentle Restructure (Released)
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Hal,

Finally watched your TFA Edit! Loved it! Love the new opening crawl! Gives you a good idea the state of the galaxy. Along with the deleted Leia scene you get even a better understanding of things. I really enjoy the placement of Star Killer destroying the New Republic during the climatic battle. Gives it way more emotional weight to the entire scene and movie.

I know why you deleted Kylo Ren saying Fins code name at the beginning of the film because you thought it was too on the nose, but I always liked that line because I felt like it foreshadowed Fins force sensitivity. Kylo could sense him during the battle. I always thought that’s the direction the film was going for even before Rise of Skywalker. I think TLJ kind of ditched that Ark for Fin.

Thoughts?

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#1317134
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Alright Hal,

Before I start I love your new scroll!

I have a thought for the TROS edit! Hear me out! You might think this is either silly, dull, or a good idea.

Some of my biggest grips with the film was the reveal of Palps being Reys grandfather. I don’t necessarily have a problem with it, but it was more of the execution. It just seem so flat and on the nose.

My other issues is that this film was supposed to be a wrap of the whole saga in its entirety, but it didn’t feel like the film succeeded in that goal.

So I have a solutions to fix both of those personal problems.

When Kylo reveals Reys back story I whole heartily believe that her parents still should be no one, but there is still a twist to her story, and no it’s not that Palps is her grandfather. Here is my interpretation:

Palp reveals to Kylo that Rey is more of threat to him than Kylo realizes. This will obviously be revealed to Rey by Kylo on his Star Destroyer and with him wearing the mask this is very plausible with a voice over. Kylo reveals that she is conceived of the force just like his grandfather. She was indirectly created by Palps just like he manipulated the force to indirectly to create Anakin. So “in a certain point of view” she could be his “daughter” with his “powers”. But Palps wants her dead because history will repeat itself and just like Anakin destroyed him the first time she could repeat that pattern because she is one and the same as Anakin and a threat.

Palps could still have her parents killed because he felt a tremor in the force when she was conceived and wanted her found and dead, but they did hide her for her protection.

This revelation to Rey and Kylo could also explain more of the Force Dyad. They are both products of immaculate force conception. They share a bond because their bloodlines are directly connected to the living force itself.

Those are my initial ideas in a nutshell, but I feel like this is way more compelling and it brings the whole Saga to its full circle, force conception to force conception. Phantom Menace to The Rise of Skywalker. I also feel with this story her taking the Skywalker name is deserving and makes sense because “in a certain point of view” she is a Skywalker.

Hope you like it. No offense if you don’t. Excited to hear your thoughts.

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#1316513
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Love it!

I never been more excited for deleted scenes in my whole life.

I feel like there is gonna be a lot of “feel in the gap” scenes from ROS.

The one thing I am really hoping for, is a extended Mustafar deleted scene. One with dialog not just action.

ChainsawAsh said:

I think teasing Palpatine in TLJ like this, then ending the crawl for TROS with something like “Supreme Leader Kylo Ren searches the Unknown Regions of the galaxy for the mysterious dark power behind Snoke, his former master” with no mention of Palpatine until Ren finds him on Exegol.

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#1316421
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Two thoughts/ideas.

Would there be any way to implement the Wayfinder and/or Exegol in the Last Jedi? Maybe Snoke knows exactly where it is but won’t tell Kylo until he worthy of the dark side.

Is there anyway to edit the Phasma and Finn deleted scene (other than cleaning it up) to make it look as if he force pushes her, not knowing that he could do that, instead of shooting her? It would give some connective tissue to his arc. I always felt like he was force sensitive in TFA and very obvious that he in ROS.

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#1316412
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Love it! Great job guys!

DZ-330 said:

Tammer5 said:

Where is this dialog from? If it’s from the previous films I would recommend using the dialog from FortNit by the Emperor. It’s spoken by Ian McDermit and it’s referring to the message of Revenge sent out to the whole Galaxy before TROS.

The problem with using that is it hurts the timeline of the films and will hurt the opening of ROS. A year is supposed to pass between films. The Emperor’s goal at this point of the story would be for Kylo to seek him out. Only Kylo is only supposed to get a hint of what is out there.

The Fortnite message would play a lot better in ROS. The common idea around here seems to be the removal of Palpatine from the crawl of IX and have his return happen in movie. We would actualy hear the broadcast at the beginning of the movie when the Star Destroyers raise up from the ice.

Also, even ROS copies direct Palpatine dialog from the prequels so reusing lines is something even the original filmmakers are doing. 😃

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#1316380
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Where is this dialog from? If it’s from the previous films I would recommend using the dialog from FortNit by the Emperor. It’s spoken by Ian McDermit and it’s referring to the message of Revenge sent out to the whole Galaxy before TROS.

poppasketti said:

Building off DZ-330’s edit and Ash’s note on balance, here’s a next pass.

https://vimeo.com/382154087
PW: fanedit

(Sirnoob1126, PM sent!)

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#1303806
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Awesome! Thanks!

So do you have any feelings about my statement?

RogueLeader said:

You didn’t do anything wrong Tammer. To help clarify what you’re referring to, it helps to put what you’re quoting first, followed by your reply. And it helps to quote only the specific paragraph or sentences you’re commenting on rather the entire post as well.

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#1303742
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Read Axios edit-suggestion on the previous page. He doesn’t like Holdo saying,“God Speed Rebels” and he thinks it should be removed because it opens up a can of worms, suggesting that our worldly beliefs could be reflected into the SW Universe. It seems to annoy a number of people. I was just curious why people don’t get annoyed when Han say his line in TESB? I think because of the majority of people don’t like Holdo, but obviously love Han. Was just curious of his thoughts on Hans line or anyone thoughts really.

I apologize if I broke a rule of the forum. That just caught my attention.

FreezingTNT2 said:

Tammer5 said:

Does it bother you when Han says, “Then I’ll see you in hell!” in The Empire Strikes Back?

What does this have anything to do with this post?

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#1303740
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) (V3 UPDATE!)
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Does it bother you when Han says, “Then I’ll see you in hell!” in The Empire Strikes Back?

Axios said:

Hey man! Loved the edit a ton. There are 2 things that I would think need to be cut just for continuity and for pacing.

1# The final scene that ends on the small children from the horse arena. This makes no sense continuity wise especially with the small ring the boy has, since rose never gives it to him. (I used the 1080p version, if you have edited it out in another version might want to include that in the 1080p one)

2# This is a smaller issue, but for saving the focus and tension of the scene (and my sanity). Please would you cut that small scene with the one rebel fighter next to Gareth Edwards on Crait who out of nowhere comments on the ground with salt (the new coarse and ruff irritating sand).

There are smaller changes from other edits that I do enjoy and think help preserve the dwindling intelligence of the original film such as: cutting the “Oh No” from the very beginning, cutting straight to the star destroyer in the atmosphere (preserve the urgency of the scene), cutting a few of the slap stick level reactions from Admiral Hux from the very beginning, the slapstick porg on the windshield on crait, the “right away sir” after Kilo shoves Hux at the end (funny but it just ruins the atmosphere, SW has always had comedy but taken its character drama very seriously) and the cringy “may the force be with you hehehe you go I’ve said it enough” flub (just cutting to “MTFBWY Always” is plenty) in my opinion.

There are other things that would help the SW canon such as “magnetic mines active” when dropping the bombs such as in Ivan’s version, and the cutting of the “God’s speed rebels” line which bugs me so much (I am even a Christian (or religious) but if you think about this line for even a few seconds it opens a can of worms which asks a crazy question I don’t want asked in a star wars movie…Who is God in Star Wars???). The hyperspace collision is likely unfixable which is so unfortunate since it is the largest open can of worms, but unless I missed something the fact the rebels couldnt contact anyone else in the galaxy while they were on their cruiser being chased is a plot hole (I know they are running out of power but if they have enough for another full light speed jump then they have enough for one phone call to someone to ask them to call everyone else).

Anyway lol I obviously have some problems with the original version, but I really appreciate yours! Thanks for all the hard work and creativity you have put into this.

May the force be with you.