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#657402
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Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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If we're allowed to make our own lists of preferences...

Opening:

1. Make a new crawl. The current ROTJ crawl is underwhelming.

2. The Executor should be the first shot, and the shuttle should slowly grow and fly past the camera. A reverse angle of it flying toward the Death Star II show be our first glimpse of the new Death Star. Rest of the opening normally.                  

3. Reinsert the deleted footage of Vader contacting Luke telepathically. A very chilling scene for a much darker opening.                                                        

4. Recolor the footage of Luke in the Tatooine cave to make it look like he's on Dagobah.    

5. Cut to a few exterior shots of Dagobah, then the Yoda's Twilight scene, recut to make it seem like Luke has been there since the end of ESB, making him more mature. I like this character dynamic of him having been separated from his friends for a long time.  

6. After Luke's conversation with Ben, cross-wipe to a newly constructed shot of C-3PO outside the cave with the deleted matte painting of the X-wing and Falcon. Cut to the 3P0 and R2 segment of the deleted opening. The implication of this new opening is that Luke was recording his message for Jabba in the cave.

7. Replace the "this awful place" line with "that awful place" from the Story OF album.

8. 3PO's redundant dialogue should be removed. You know 'He's still frozen in carbonite'.

9. Still keep the droids being lead to the torture chamber, but remove the EV-9D9 torture scene itself.

10. Cut down the musical number, make it a mix of both the SE and Original. My idea, background singers from SE, puppet from OT, music from the music video. Struggle from the OT. Make it shorter, though. Reintegrate the Oola in the pit scene from the SE.

Jabba's Palace Battle:

1. Bantha Scene from SE should be in there.

2. Original Saarlac.

3. The original music cue for the barge battle should be used.

4. Remove Boba's final line. Ridiculous.

5. Redit the music so that the cue ends when the skiif flies off screen.

6. Reintegrate the Sandstorm scene. Use soundalikes to do ADR, and also remove Luke's allusion to going to Dagobah. Create a new shot when Luke looks back, showing the Falcon taking off through the Sandstorm. Compose new music.

7. New FX to show Falcon going to lightspeed and Luke following after them. 

Endor:

1. Recut shuttle taking off to leave out Han's line about not seeing the Falcon again.

2. Recut shuttle to show Luke having a silent conversation with Vader. Luke says nothing through the whole scene.

3. New shot showing the shuttle landing.

4. Chewie roars to alert the Scout Trooper, Han steps on no twig.

5. Remove Wicket finding Leia scene.

6. The Ewok pokes Han only once before he freaks out.

7. Han does not get jealous at Leia and Luke.

Epic Battle:

1. Reinstate General Madine's footage. Some of it.

2. The Ewok on the speeder bike does not survive.

3. Reinstate a newly editied version of the deleted bunker battle.

4. Show a new shot of the TIEs taking off from the Star Destroyers.

5. New scenes of the battle showing some of the deleted pilots.

6. New scenes aboard the Falcon, showing the gunner ports.

7. More Ewoks should die.

8. Chewie should get into the action earlier, so it's more believable that they win.

9. Show some footage of Ewok's with friggin' lazer beams from Battle for Endor.

10. New shot of Vader's severed arm, with more mechanical parts than wires.

11. Wedge could possibly not make it out of the Death Star.

Ending:

There's two ways this could go...

1. Just have Luke at the pyre. As soon as Vader's on fire, Sebastian Shaw fades in and Ben, Yoda, and he look on. The camera pans up, credits.

2. Basically a cross between the OT ending and the SE ending. No planetary celebrations. Victory Celebration (soundtrack version) as the music. Have some of the shots from the '97 version, but most of the longer shots from the OT version. Sebastian Shaw with the ghosts, with the longer shot from the '97 version.

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#656540
Topic
Info Wanted: Footage Identification Question
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This is a pretty stupid question, but one that I do wish to ask.

If you don’t know, Star Wars BDFC is a rather insane German made fan-edit that extends the original Star Wars from 121 min. to 150 min. There’s a lot of newly made scenes and re-used footage, but hey, this guy was having fun, so more power to him.

My question comes from wanting to identify what footage he used in this scene:

http://vimeo.com/56724987

Around 0:30. I was only asking because I would like to make an imaginary wishlist of my personal Star Wars Fan Edit, and would like to cite the sources I’d use for any additional shot, and this shot would be a shoe in.

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#655272
Topic
ESB questions from a newbie
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OK, so I'm new here, and I have some questions regarding ESB.

1. I once heard from someone who said that they had a 16mm print of ESB that contained some audio idiosyncrasies. Namely, Luke lets out a little scream as the floor gives out under him in the Cloud City vents. Is this on Puggo Strikes Back?

2. Is a good preservation of the 70mm version being worked on currently?

3. What has our best color source been determined as currently? The 16mm? The Betamax telecine.

4. Has anyone ever attempted to assemble a complete Hoth Battle Animatic from official and/or unofficial releases?

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#654641
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Info Wanted: Your ultimate Star Wars Collection...?
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Disc 1. Star Wars - Original Theatrical Version - Restored                                                  Audio commentary by cast and crew.                                                                    Original Dolby 6-Track sound                                                                                Original Dolby 2.0 Track                                                                                        Original Theatrical Mono Mix                                                                                  1993 audio mix                                                                                                    Original 'Making of' TV special

Disc 2. Star Wars - 1997 Special Edition                                                                            Audio commentary by George Lucas, Ben Burrt, and Carrie Fisher                          Original Theatrical DTS mix               

Disc 3 Supplemental Materials - As much as can be fit onto a dual-layered DVD

Disc 4. Star Wars Holiday Special

Disc 5. The Empire Strikes Back - 70mm and 35mm seamlessly branched                         Audio commentary                                                                                               New 5.1 based on George Lucas's intended sound mix.                                           Original 70mm mix                                                                                               Original 2.0 mix

Disc 6. The Empire Strikes Back - 1997 Special Edition                                                      Original DTS mix

Disc 7. Supplemental Materials - As much as possible

Disc 8. Return of the Jedi - Original Theatrical Version - Restored                                      Audio commentary                                                                                                70mm six-track mix                                                                                              Dolby 2.0 mix                                                                  

Disc 9. Return of the Jedi - 1997 Special Edition

Disc 10. Supplementals

Disc 11. Ewoks Movies - Original Versions

Discs 12 - 14. Ewoks and Droids cartoon series

Disc 15. From Star Wars to Jedi.

Disc 16. Empire of Dreams and 2004 featurettes.

Disc 17. Star Wars Comic Collection DVD-ROM.                                                                    Marvel, BlackThorne, and Dark Horse comics dealing with OT.

That good enough for you guys?