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#191504
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Hungry? Check this out..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/191504/action/topic#191504
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Well, not long after finding these pages, I went to the Clinton Station home page and discovered this.
That monstrosity is more about one-upsmanship than serving a feasibly consumable product, but it is a spectacle to behold. I can't really imagine anyone actually ordering it, unless they show up with 20+ people. According to the foodmarket page here, this one is 81,000 calories, which is about a MONTH'S worth.
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#191284
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Frustrated with DVD burning
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/191284/action/topic#191284
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The problems you have described are caused by burning too quickly onto shoddy media.
Your best bet is to avoid any media that uses CMC Magnetics dye or is a cheap, unknown brand. One of the main ones marketed with this dye is Memorex. Contrary to what others here have mentioned, not all Taiwanese media is bad, but media made in Japan is always better.
Avoid really cheap media-the disc problems and potential coasters are not worth saving $.10 per disc. Sales reps usually know nothing about media; ask them what media code the product is and all you will get is a blank stare. I suggest downloading a program that can read the media code and do disc tests, such as DVD Info. Check out this link for all the info you'll ever need on the subject.

Others to avoid:
Princo
Matrix
Longten (or any media made in HK)
TDK (inconsistent media codes)
Optodisc
unlabeled/store labeled media, such as OfficeMax brand (almost always CMC)
Khypermedia
Any media made by Supermediastore

Ones to look for:
Verbatim (about the best media money can buy)
Prodisc (Best used with Pioneer burners)
Ritek (good, but slipping)
Taiyo Yuden (Best quality/value for bulk Japanese media)
Maxell (usually Ricoh dye)




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#191148
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Ong-Bak: Thai Warrior Original Version
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/191148/action/topic#191148
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Thanks for the support. This isn't a fan edit, it is simply a reencoding of the Hong Kong Edko release (with added Eng subs) because it is the only original version of the film in NTSC format, aside from the R3 Korean release (which I have not seen personally). The R1 "Luc Besson" version is a modified, recut version with different music and sound effects and I wanted to be able to offer the original film to those who might be interested. I have not been able to get uploader status at myspleen, so I will need someone who has it to post this for me. I will be glad to send out a free DVDR to anyone who can help.
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#187577
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Ong-Bak: Thai Warrior Original Version
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/187577/action/topic#187577
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I'm working on a new project, which involves this Thai martial arts film from 2003. The movie was released domestically in 2005, but as an edited, rescored version. The movie was released onto DVD prior to its US theatrical premiere in a few countries. It was mildly popular for a while, and mostly screened in smaller cinemas in the USA.

I saw the US theatrical release at a local theater and did not really care for it. Although the subs were more accurate, the revamped music and editing of certain scenes hampered its enjoyment.

The film rights were purchased in 2004 by Luc Besson (Fifth Element) and the film was reedited and rescored for the western market. I believe some of the sound effects were also altered. From the info I have been able to find, the ONLY uncensored, unedited 108 minute version in NTSC format was released by Edko of Hong Kong. Unfortunately, due to some mixup, it did not contain English subtitles. This version is not quite as clean as the US R1 release, but it contains a great DTS track and most importantly, is the original version. I've recently found a copy of the film, taken from the Edko release with added English subtitles. Because the Dolby track is rather weak, and the Cantonese dub is pointless, this release will be DTS only. There will also not be any special features, since they do not have English subtitles and just take up space needed for video quality.

Stats:
1.85:1 Anamorphic Widescreen NTSC Format
Thai DTS-ES 6.1 audio (768k)
Unedited, uncensored 108 minute version
English subs


It has been recoded to fit onto a DVDR and will contain the original menu (in Chinese). Once the menu pops up all you need to do is hit the enter/start button on your remote and it will start playing. I left the menu intact since it contains some cool looking animated fight sequences.
I have not done my own torrent before, but I will look into getting one posted onto MySpleen asap. If for some reason I cannot, is anyone out there willing to help?
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#178856
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How Did You Find OT.com?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/178856/action/topic#178856
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I originally found this site after reading about it on another Star Wars board. I was incensed that Lucas had decided to ruin my favorite movies with unnecessary CGI updates and footage best left on the cutting room floor, and would not be offering a choice on future releases.
I then decided to offer people an alternative to buying questionable, overpriced sets from feebay and the rest is history. I know some members here hate me for doing this, but I don't feel I've committed some heinous act that certain members make it out to be.
On another note, Bill Hunt seems like one of those people who initially was regarded as someone to look to for honest DVD news, but has slowly turned into being a greedy shill for the studios. You won't find any negative comments on any reviewed release on his site, no matter how badly the movie/transfer/version sucks. I guess you can't bite the hand that feeds you. Jay, have you found this to be the case? I do visit his site from time to time, but mostly just to find out about upcoming releases and their technical specifications.
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#177339
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Indiana Jones 4
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/177339/action/topic#177339
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
I don't belive Indy 4 will ever see the light of day. It would be the greatest comeback fo a film from a pre-production limbo ever. Not gonna happen.


I may get skewered for this, but I hope it DOESN'T happen. It's highly likely it will be terrible and not meet anyone's expectations. Better to leave the franchise alone, so we can remember a time when movies used to be well made, with actual effort put into them, instead of recycled schlock with bad CGI.
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#177333
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Dune Extended Cut
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/177333/action/topic#177333
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Originally posted by: Jay
Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Then go somewhere other than Wal*Mart.


This is good advice for pretty much any purchase.


Agreed wholeheartedly. The Great Wal-Mart of China is probably THE most vile retail corporation on Earth, perhaps next to McDonald's. Most of what is in that place is cheap imported junk and mostly appeals to poor people.
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#176359
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Info: Where do you draw the line?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/176359/action/topic#176359
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I know it is probably somewhat hypocritical for me to chime in here, but nothing that happens on this site causes the studios to lose any revenue whatsoever or be deprived of any property, as most of what is created does not exist legitimately. You cannot lose money on something that you do not print. It seems you're just trying to be a trollish devil's advocate, and post inflammatory statements in an attempt to needle a reaction out of the board members. If all you truly see is the "law", then it's time to wake up, because there are things more important than following laws created by corrupt business people seeking total control. The studios have very little interest in what happens to older films and TV shows; their main anti piracy concerns focus on people selling/uploading copies of current theatrical releases, neither of which happens here. Once their product makes the bulk of its expected profit, it is back-burnered. The studios know they cannot possibly contain illegal copying and they only pursue the largest of offenders, or those that make themselves easy targets. If this was not the case, this site would not exist. I don't really expect anyone to agree with my viewpoints, but the fact is if something does not exist, or the quality is sub-par, someone else WILL make it available, regardless of legality. Just look at all the Disney counterfeits of their "Limited Issue" titles on ebay; Disney was VERY FOOLISH to do something like that, and now they are losing a fortune to pirates who step in to meet the demand that the studio refuses to address. The movie studios are still operating in terms of a 1970's business model, and what is really going on is their refusal/inability to adapt to an ever changing marketplace for their products has caused many new and restrictive laws regarding content control. Examples of this would be the DMCA and the NET Act. Unfortunately, as we all know, the tighter the grip, the more slips through their fingers.
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#175300
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Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/175300/action/topic#175300
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All of the versions on DVD were either taken from the Japanese LD, which has subtitles during the songs or the Hong Kong LD, which was a rental only item-it was never meant to be sold to the public. The HK LD does not have any subtitles but is slightly less sharp than the Japanese LD, and due to its rarity, fetches nearly $1000 on ebay. There are NO legit versions on DVD anywhere in the world, the "Euro Disney" copies on ebay are just fancy bootlegs. Aside from the LD releases, the only others are a Canadian VHS and a PAL UK VHS. The version that has no subs with the two trailers is the one you want, it is as good as it will get until Disney finally caves in to demand and releases it themselves. I think this illustrates the demand-complete insanity.
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#171809
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171809/action/topic#171809
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Sometimes it depends on what media is used, cheap media tends to be less compatible with older players. You'd have to check out a resource webpage such as dvdrhelp.com to see if your player can play any kind of burned discs. Generally, only (some) 2nd or 3rd generation models or newer can do so. PS2's are poor dvd players anyway, so if your standalone player is really that old, you might consider buying a new one, especially considering how inexpensive they are now.
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#171635
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/171635/action/topic#171635
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Some words of advice: Linkyo media is garbage, it's about as bad as Princo or Longten (HK crap). It is Supermediastore's "in house" brand, and they are a lousy company. Your best bet is Taiyo Yuden, or possibly Ritek or Prodisc (both top tier Taiwanese media) purchased from rima.com. Ritek's QC has been slipping lately and Prodisc is only slightly better, but these are the best media from TW. Taiyo Yuden is made in Japan and only costs about $.05 per disc more than their Chinese counterparts. The cost increase is actually misleading, since bad burns and media failure due to dye degradation is almost unheard of. You actually spend less over the long run because the media doesn't fail nearly as often. Not trying to needle you, but I've been through the BS with crappy media and found it's much more cost effective to spend slightly more and get the best bulk media you can. I've recently switched to using TY and won't go back.
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#168945
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Classic Edition: Return of the Jedi by Ocpmovie (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168945/action/topic#168945
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Yeah, the AOD Anchor Bay releases are crap... all of them are VHS sourced rather than transferred from film elements. I have no idea why a reputable company would do that other than corner cutting or lack of access to the original filmstock. The R3 MGM DVD from Deltamac Hong Kong is the best one by far, it contains scenes not included in the US versions and is mastered from film in 16:9 with 5.1 audio! There is no better version out there.
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#168031
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Can we send an O-OT representative to a SW convention?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/168031/action/topic#168031
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I've been thinking about this topic since I joined this site, and I have come up with what I believe is the most logical explanation of this debacle. Lucas basically struck gold by sheer chance with ANH, mostly due to the time period it was released. In a time of moral and ethical confusion, it served as a ray of hope for many. Of course, due to the film's massive success, sequels were produced and the rest was history. Fast foward to the early/mid 1990's: Star Wars had lost much of its former draw, mainly due to lack of new material. Games were popular such as TIE Fighter, Rebel Assault, etc, but the franchise as a whole was losing momentum. As a result of this, the concept of creating the SE versions is realized, as evidenced by the sticker on the '95 Faces LD set that read "The last chance to own the original versions". This whole marketing ploy was obviously conceived of many years before the SE versions actually premiered. In 1997, the SE versions were released, which reintroduced a whole new audience to the films, and served as the segueway into the prequels, the first of which debuted 2 years afterwards. Lucas explained away the numerous alterations as being "closer to his original vision". While I believe this statement contains some truth to it, it seems more like an excuse than a real explanation. Many of the changes made do not serve to add anything to the movies and in most cases, detract from them. Most of the alterations are seemingly abitrary, and could have easily been accomplished when the films were originally produced. I believe that most of the reason the films were altered and the originals buried was literally to create controversy surrounding it. Lucas is a better marketer than he is a filmmaker, and knows that his refusal to even acknowledge the issue beyond the trite answers already given is what keeps interest in the films alive. If it were not for these changes, this site and others like it would not exist. Why else would LFL/FOX ignore all the fan edits and bootlegs, and sites like this that enable their creation? It's free advertising! By forcing people to accept a revised version instead of offering a choice, he leaves himself more options to resell the films over and over again to the public. Lucas knows his franchise has a finite life span, and will do anything to keep people's attention focused on it. I believe the originals will eventually be released at some point, but only time will tell. This is only a theory, but it seems to be the most logical explanation of how someone who decries other people's films being altered can be so hypocritical and closed minded when it comes to his own work.