TLSO

I've only listened to Star Wars and the LPs all the way through, but in those three I definitely noticed a greater depth than I did from the SE CDs. A lot of instrumentation I could barely notice in the recent releases popped out, and it felt almost like I was listening to a different piece of music. I didn't even care about the crackling on the LP transfers because I was so drawn in by the music.

I had a dream last night (this goes somewhere, honestly). I saw an ad for the OT on Blu-Ray with pictures of the covers - each had the upper body of a principal character in front of a scene from the movie (the Death Star in space, Hoth, and Endor). I don't know how good it would look, but there's an idea if anyone wants to run with it.

I like the ending of Yubnub, but overall I like '97 better.

I started on a new style for the logos, to try and make them look more professional. This is a demonstration of what I have planned.

In the meantime I've been reworking the logos in Inkscape, which makes my life a whole lot easier as far as modifying and storing them.

I've also been trying a couple of foreign languages (I don't speak any, so go easy on me).

Spanish

and (the beginning of) German.

For the niche on this site that would want foreign language covers, I can do the logos, but that's it.

What do you have to say about the Star Wars comics that came before Dark Horse?

I’ve had one of their issues of Classic Star Wars for years (it’s a reprint of the old comic strips). I’m looking into DH’s reprints of the strips and Marvel’s comics, but it looks like I missed the run of the collected editions by a few years.

Here are some good ones:

-Essence of the Force

-Hardware Wars

-Pink Five / Pink Five Strikes Back / Return of Pink Five

Generally the less Jedis and less dramatic, the better.

Bingowings said:

The P&S of Lawrence Of Arabia was hilarious.

There is a scene where one character is on one side of the screen and another is on the other side of the screen and a bottle on a table was in the middle.

In the P&S version all you see is the bottle.

How about The Pink Panther? At one point there's a title so wide they have to zoom out so you can see the widescreen bars.

I was just saying because yours and Antman's had similar ideas.

Wish I could make videos so I could just show my ideas on the same level, you know?

It's a little modern for Star Wars. Aside from Battlestar, most of the old scifi series haven't deviated much from their roots. Regardless of how you cut the video, we need some authentic excerpts from the score.

Look at Stargate in the '90s -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqDS6eOG_hM

Look at Stargate now -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYS0EVZJQMU

Here's what they were doing in the '70s, in the time of the originals.

Classic Galactica - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d89RYN6gwI

and Buck Rogers - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=663313548897022933

Take notes - it's always upbeat and setting up some kind of adventure and action.

Here's another example of what a hokey fantasy show was like a few years ago (note the narration style for the recap at the beginning - not today's hoarse whispering, but the in-your-face, cranked up to 11 style).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu794M89uyw

vaderios said:

I can change the matte of the ladder with one bamboo or wooden made from nature materials from dagobah.

That's funny - I was just watching the Pink Five movies yesterday, and that was their solution!

I ain't finished yet, pally!

That sounds like a fun idea, but I think the best idea is to model it on older shows like the original Galactica. Unless you wanted to go into the prequels - then I'd suggest a '90s show like Stargate or Deep Space 9.

So for an opening sequence, remix an upbeat piece of music (like the credits from Star Wars), start with some ships flying and action scenes with anonymous characters. Then you'll introduce each actor with a shot of their character smiling, wind down with some action shots of the main characters. Maybe I'll make some mockups or something.

Here's the last phase of my cover design I showed:



I have the fronts designed for each movie now.

The Unaltered Originals:

The Prequels:

The Originals:

I wanted the logo a little bigger, so I referenced the Polish cover for some of the novelizations, which had a similar placement. I went against my original decision to leave the episode number off the front (although I still emphasize the movie's title). The back, meanwhile, is being completely revamped to include features and credits and stuff.

The art on the "classic" Empire and Jedi discs are still in progress, because they're being edited from, like, five sources each. I'll patch up some of the seams later.

How's it looking?

For some reason the the '97 versions seem more...uh..."natural". I mean CG Jabba sucked, but at the time, the Special Editions were more of a commemorative thing than a revisionist one.

EDIT: Damn, this thred is OLD.

No offence, but those briefing room mockups are WAY too busy.

Vaderisnothayden said:

TLSO, you said on another thread you were 7 when you first saw Star Wars, on the 95 videos. That means you were born in 88 at the earliest. That means you weren't around for the 77-83 Star Wars era. See, that would give you a very different perspective from somebody like me. I can see why you'd see the 90s as the height of Star Wars then.

'90. :P Yeah, that's true. It's all perspective, like how they say your first Doctor Who is always your favorite. :P

I think the '90s were more lax on the tie-ins since, well, there was nothing to tie into, hehe. As opposed to the cartoons and toys produced then and now. I kind of regret not being there in the '80s, but I also kind of like how it was all already there, waiting to be discovered or something.

Buddy, you can only say Luca$h so many times and still have it be original...

Star Wars to me seemed like it was at its height in the '90s, man. I don't know if it's because that's when I first saw the movies, or because they revived the action figures, or the originals got re-released with 4th one on the way, but I feel like it was so much cooler back then. Like it was something more casual to enjoy. The internet wasn't that big, you didn't have to know the real names of snaggletooth or hammerhead or yakface, and you only had the 10 or so Star Wars books instead of the hundreds that try to explain you everything.

I think it was because the movies have been around a few years, people have grown up with them, and the movies were kind of the end of it. I think what we have now is a sort of "Star Trek effect" - once you're over-saturated in material, there will be a bunch of people who take it to heart and the more universal appeal gets eclipsed.

Maybe it's because the new movies were so recent and with all the tie-ins the hype hasn't had time to die out yet. This decade's been full of books, merchandising, and spin-off media. Here's hoping for another sort of "Star Wars Renaissance" in the '10s or '20s. I want it to be cool again. :-D

Conclusion: Star Wars - 15 years ago - give me your thoughts.

PS These videos speak to me...They say "Dan, Star Wars is bitchin!"

I'm gonna go ahead and sound like a dork here: the "Trilogy" logo on the new DVDs looks wimpy compared to the one on the '97 videos.

DarkFather said:People around here do need to stop dividing the age groups. contrary to popular belief, age has little to do if you like the prequels or the original trilogy. to say otherwise is just ignorant.

Yeah, back in summer '02, I heard pretty much everyone ragging on Clones - older people, my friends, my younger brother, even this little kid talking to his dad outside the theater. (Just so it doesn't look like I'm picking on Clones, I actually liked it when it first came out).

I was 7. Borrowed the '95 VHS set from my cousins. I watched Jedi before Empire for some reason, and didn't finish Empire for a long time.

Erikstormtrooper said:

Here's an idea I had regarding his quick turn (but not relating directly to the "reason"). It seems to me that when he confronts Palpatine and discovers he's the Sith, he's almost ready to kill him, but he changes his mind so quickly later. Instead, as per George's original plan, edit the scene in Palpatine's hallway so that Anakin seems conflicted by Palpatine's admission. He ignites his saber breifly, but after some prattle from Palps (insert "reason" here), he turns off his saber, and Palpatine smiles. Scene ends. (Anakin never alerts Mace. The Jedi already suspect Palpatine will not turn over power. I think there's a deleted scene that may be useful here). When Mace shows up, Anakin is nowhere to be seen. But he's actually sulking conflictedly in the shadows (maybe footage from the council chamber scene could be darkened and rotoscoped). While the duel continues, Anakin experiences his true turn: an emotional crescendo where we hear in his mind waves of overlapping voices (Qui Gon: "He is the chose one", Palps: "I see you becoming the greatest of all the Jedi", etc etc.). The voices continue and jumble up, getting louder and becoming unbearable (the right music could really sell this). Just as the voices reach a peak and crash into silence, Palps seems to be beaten. Anakin, now turned, suddenly steps out to quietly dismember Mace. After the electrified Mace flies out the window, the kneeling Anakin simply says "I will do whatever you ask, my master."

This.

Want some titles? How about these:

Episode 1: The Son of Suns

Episode 2: Across the Stars

Episode 3: The Last of the Jedi

Ideas:

Episode 1

Tie Dooku and/or Grievous in somehow

Somewhere I remember reading people disliking the Federation's beige/brown army. Maybe try a sort of blue steel color, like with later Separatist machines

Episode 2

Have maybe some of the Confederacy's capital ships visible above Geonosis

Original "On the Conveyor Belt" score restored

Add some of the unused Arena score

Episode 3

Insert Grievous' figher into the opening battle of SW3, just so he actually does something early on

Maybe see Republic/Empire troops and ships slowly become less colorful and more gray throughout the movie

Remake the Tantive IV model

Don't know if there's a point, but maybe let Qui-Gon's voice be heard at various times in SW2/3, and make him visible at the end of 3

Don't know how you'd accomplish this, but give Vader a really angry-sounding "NOOO!"

Whatever. I'm tired. Don't know if I'm thinking straight.

I noticed that I liked each movie when it first came out, and hated it by the time the next came out. Then a few years after ROTS came out and I hate that, I go back to TPM and say, "Hey, it's not that bad."

Actually, what I was asking was about the packaging itself. It was too thin for the standard-sized DVD cases, and it looked like it might have contained a DigiPak instead of the original cases for each movie. That's what I was curious about.

I have a couple of logos I'm working on for the Indiana Jones movies.