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#107893
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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released)
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Sorry to weigh in so late...I don't have much of a chance these days to take part in the discussions...
After watching both, I was VERY impressed by MagFan's versions. Aside from a couple of mis-spelled words, the edits are top-notch. MagFan, thank you for you very hard work.
Rik, thank you for the DVDs...

Bring on FoTR!

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#107937
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How do you rate EpIII?
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In order:
V
IV
VI (tie)
III (tie)
II
I

Reason for a tie for third...
RoTJ - Weak points: Backdrop paintings, heavy use of matte paintings (VERY obvious budget cuts), Ewoks.
Strong points: the entire Luke/Vader dynamic (especially the 20 seconds following "perhaps she will...")
Summary - Marquand did the best with what he had to work with.

RoTS - Weak points: rushed ending, weak turn to the Dark Side. Still some use of bad dialog to cover weak plot points (lost the will to live)
Strong points: Ewan McGregor's Obi-Wan, Palpatine (yeah! excepted). Visually stunning and more use of lightsabers.
Summary - if GL had let somebody else direct, could have ranked with "Empire".

While I'm a fan of the OT primarily (I've seen every film in the theater since '77), I'm not blinded by hatred for the PT, nor do I think GL "raped my childhood" with his "tweaking" of the OT. I think there are good possibilities with "good" CGI making the OT a different experience (think a better looking hangar bay sequence in front of the Falcon for one), but I also agree that the ORIGINAL versions, warts and all should be available as well.
For those who complain about the "cheesy" dialog in the OT, I'll grant some of that, but remember the time frame...ANH came out in 1977 (a dark time to be sure, disco was all the rage..yuck!). ESB stands out, not only for the dark tone of the film in general, but also it was a collaboration... GL primarily wrote it, and had a CO-writer for the screenplay (Leigh Brackett) and had somebody else direct (Irvin Kershner). Had he done this with "Sith", the result IMO would have been a tie for best film of the series. In any event, you'll never convince the fanboys of either series to change their very narrow views. Life's too short to sweat this kind of stuff.




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#107888
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a fresh rant about ep.3
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Originally posted by: Shunty
(New paragraph) As for me being 6 when ANH came out, it was actually my 7th birthday when I got to see it, films stayed around for a lot longer in them days, Star Wars was in the cinemas for years after its release. Over the next 4-5 years I became a real addict. You had to really make an effort then as there was less media, no quick video/DVD release, no internet to check out every nook and cranny about a film. But since then I have(as many others have) seen the original trilogy honestly about 100 times and it is not with blinkers, ignoring the negative aspects(of which there are only a few) at all. In my opinion ANH and ESB as pieces of fiction adventure are true masterpieces in every way. You know why? Because Lucas had to work his butt off to make them happen, instead of strolling through these last 3 checking how many billion dollars he'd made that morning. That is maybe why ROTJ was not quite up to the first 2, he'd well and truly made it by then.


Myself, I saw SW 27 times in its inital release, so I relate with ya. (saw SW at the tender age of 13 the first time). What's more, I snuck in a dictation recorder (one of the early micro-tape jobs) and recorded the audio. Of course I wore out my "Story of Star Wars" too. Those days, we had a wait of about 3 years from movie theater to TV (remember the ABC Sunday Night Movies?). Star Wars was going to take 10 years (it ultimately made it to home video first in the mid-80's), so we did what we could. As far as RoTJ, I was initially furious when it came out at the obvious budget cuts (backdrop painting of the Falcon, anyone?), but the story made up for it. Now that I've dated myself, I'll add to the ROTS discussion....

I agree that once the hype dies down (along with the "BEST MOVIE EVER" crowd, who will have moved on to the next best movie ever), the overall take on it will be that it's the best of the PT, but still falls short of the OT. Lucas was trying to bridge both trilogies and the fans of both, but I think he just missed the mark. Why is ESB considered to be the best film overall, superior even to ANH? My opinion is it's the direction. GL should have found a suitable director for ROTS, but its all water under the bridge at this point. I submitted a review on IMDB reflecting this point of view, and I'll close with the the same close there: I'll wait for Magnoliafan's version.

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#66378
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Star Wars DVD Music Mix Botched!!
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OK..adding some fuel to this already flaming topic.

Did anybody else notice when the Falcon is leaving the Death Star, the audio for the engines seemed a bit "off" ,and the "whoosh" sound it makes as it flies by the camera now extends into the interior scene with Luke and Leia? As it went before, the Falcon is flying past the camera, and the sound of its engine cuts off immediately into the interior scene.
Some of the (original) audio survived into this release, which I did like (some of the background announcements for Death Star personnel), and some of the dialog DID sound a lot better, but whoever did the audio apparently fell asleep at the switch.

I won't even mention the horrible looking black boxes (badly digitized matte boxes) around the TIE fighters in the DS escape sequence after that (which I didn't see in my TR47 discs).