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Post: #249427
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about LD 1993 to DVD Transfer
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249427/action/topic#249427
Time: 4-Oct-2006 3:23 AM

I checked my DVD's and they do indeed have audio commentary options. Nice!

Perhaps its just some glitch that causes Dennis Muren's name to appear in white text. Might be time to start searching for another ROTJ bootleg edition....

Of course, I appreciate Mr. Muren's contributions to the SW mythos, I just don't want to see his name randomly popping up on my ROTJ disk.

I guess my only other question now is whether my transfers are actually anamorphic widescreen. My first guess would be yes - I was watching a bit from my ESB dvd, and the letterboxing was minimal. Interestingly enough though, the black bar on top seemed ever so slightly wider than the one on bottom. Is there an easy way to tell through visual inspection?

The official DVD's are of much higher quality.
Sounds a bit like the new DVD OOT release. I'm sure it was cleaned up from that older version though.

Yes I was wondering about that too. I was tempted recently to purchase the 9/12 discs just so I could see how much better the official transfers were. (My first hunch is that they most likely are, but just by how much I can't say yet.) Like many other fans who already own the 2004 set I've been holding back, primarily b/c I don't want to purchase another trio of enchanced OT discs just to get the OUT as a bonus. BUT - I also have a sneaking suspicion that the 30th anniversary box set might, just might, have something nice in store. The OOT clips in the documentary "Empire of Dreams" were anamorphic, so you never know what GL might be hiding up his sleeve.

You know what would be cool though? It would be fantastic if someone were to post comparison screens between the 9/12 official release and some of the more respectable transfers, that way we could all see for ourselves. Perhaps someone already has? Links anyone?

Post: #249167
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about LD 1993 to DVD Transfer
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249167/action/topic#249167
Time: 3-Oct-2006 1:44 AM

Perhaps that's the one.

Thanks for your reply. I did a little Googling (I had no idea there were so many fan edits and bootleg transfers out there) and found this page on the Dr. Gonzo edition you mentioned:

http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg5.html

Reading up on that page I noticed these remarks

The commentary on A New Hope and Return of the Jedi included Ralph McQuarrie, Dennis Muren, and Ken Ralston, while the Empire Strikes Back commentary added George Lucas and Frank Oz to that list. Second, the discs boast a remarkable number of chapters: A New Hope sports no fewer than 79 chapters, each of which has a thumbnail link from the eight pages of chapter stops. The production notes are rather interesting, and even make reference to the 1993 Definitive Edition LaserDiscs that were used as the source material.

That certainly sounds like mine, chapter wise. There are a BUNCH of chapters (79 total I believe), though navigation isn't the easiest. I will check to see if there is actually a commentary option in the menu. Strange that Dennis Muren's name would pop up on the screen though, as if he were making commentary, when in actuality his voice is absent.

Post: #249096
Topic: Your first reaction to Hayden is ROTJ
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249096/action/topic#249096
Time: 2-Oct-2006 4:45 PM

For the most part I was OK with the changes, but I have to admit, this is the one thing that really made me go, "Hey! What the....?"

Post: #249095
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about LD 1993 to DVD Transfer
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/249095/action/topic#249095
Time: 2-Oct-2006 4:43 PM — Edited 4-Jul-2020 11:50 AM

Hi guys,

I <finally got around to watching my ROTJ DVD, a transfer from the 1993 Laserdisc release that I purchased sometime back on Ebay. I did notice one strange thing however - during the Ewok celebration scene a name pops up on the top of my screen in white letters. Dave Murren? Davvik Marren? Hehe, I can’t remember, but anyway, it stays there for around a minute and then disappears. Can anyone explain how this happened?

It’s not a huge deal to me, but I was curious. I didn’t plan on buying any of the 9/12 OUT’s, but if my bootleg is flashing names here and there, i’ll definitely want to pick up a ‘clean’ retail copy sometime in the future. Thanks for your help!

Post: #195960
Topic: I like 'em both :)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/195960/action/topic#195960
Time: 27-Mar-2006 12:55 PM

Just some additional thoughts on the changes...

It's interesting....I was thinking about how some of the changes ended up altering my perception of certain scenes. For instance, in the original Ep IV scene, when the stormtroopers are combing the desert for droids, I never really found that stationary dewback prop convincing. I must have watched that scene dozens of times, and it never really occured to me that I ought to infer more dewbacks walking around with stormtroppers riding them.

In hindsight i suspect that I wasn't really meant to, but with the new CGI additions you really get the sense of a search expedition taking place.

I'd love to hear more feedback to my prior question as well: which would you show, the original or the SE? Right now i'm leaning toward the SE, b/c of the extra content.

Post: #195603
Topic: I like 'em both :)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/195603/action/topic#195603
Time: 25-Mar-2006 10:04 PM

Originally posted by: eros
Their's a big difference between cleaning up old special effects and putting things in that are obviously going to piss a lot of people off. GL seems to revel in upsetting the fan base as much as he can. Either that or the guy HAS completely lost his marbles.

With that in mind, I wonder if one of the things fans would like to see is an original theatrical cut to anamorphic widescreen version w/out any enhancements whatsoever (like the one I saw yesterday), OR perhaps an original version with the visuals touched up for clarity (as in the new 2004 DVD's) BUT without any enhanced special effects, scenes, sounds or dialogue. An interesting question, b/c it seems like even within the original trilogy community there may some difference of opinion as to just how to implement the whole thing.

Further complicating (not necessarily, but its fun to speculate) are some issues just as to what constitutes the original films. In the laserdisc transfer (from the 1993 Definitive Collection) I was watching the otherday it was revealed in the production notes that there were three seperate sound effects mixes made by Ben Burt during the film's 1977 premiere. One was for monoaural theaters, another for the select few with multiple speaker placements and a third for the films initial "hurried" release. The production notes state explicitly that fans were watching different sound effect versions in theaters, depending upon where they were watching. In addition, for the laserdisc version Ben Burt and a colleague remastered the sound effects. Which begs the question....

Would fans want a DVD release of the original trilogy with 5.1 surround? 2.1? And just what exactly would constitute original? Hehe, just some more fun speculation.....

Oh and by the way.... (edit).....

For those of you reading this thread: If you had the option of showing a friend or relative who had no prior exposure to star wars the original trilogy or the Special editions which one would you show?

Post: #195445
Topic: I like 'em both :)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/195445/action/topic#195445
Time: 24-Mar-2006 10:27 PM

Greetings Gents!

I was viewing the original widescreen version (1993 Laserdisc transfer) of Episode IV:ANH earlier today. Over the past few years I've been watching the special editions exclusively and was really struck by the differences in each movie. The 1977 version has a very raw, visceral quality to it...the visuals, special effects and sound have a very rough, in your face kind've quality to them that i'd fogotten about. All it takes is five minutes with the film and you know this is a film from '77. I actually appreciated these qualities during my time watching the film.

On the other hand, it got me to thinking how much speculation there would have been on all the things now possible with advanced CGI, so I'm glad that George Lucas indulged us all by inserting those bits and pieces that he had always envisioned changing. Its nice to watch all three of the classic widescreen movies and compare those scenes that were changed, altered or expanded with their newer counterparts.

Thanks for a fun site too, i'm glad I found you guys.

Cheers!