I feel like family, tragedy, and redemption were still a big part of the sequel trilogy. They put a lot of emphasis on the concept of heritage and belonging, Ben’s fall to the dark side is a very tragic event, and his subsequent redemption is self-explanatory. Those themes are still there, and in my opinion they’re what the saga as a whole is about.
I gotta say, Palpatine jumping off his throne and stabbing Rey with his saber is a hilarious yet fitting visual.
https://youtu.be/FHr9QI__I60
That’s one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve ever seen.
Although it’s nowhere near as funny as the one where Rey is replaced by a cardboard cutout of Hayden Christensen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D37Saj0A8Wc
I don’t see your problem with it, Broom Kid. It sounds natural to me, not jarring at all. Maybe the end of the piece could be blended a little better, but beyond that it’s probably the best choice for the scene.
That’s the case with most Reddit “ideas”.
Eh, doesn’t sound very good. It would shrink the universe too much, and like you said, it would seem kind of insulting for Lando to just get a 5 second joke cameo.
Count me as one of the people who opposes Ben’s survival. I used to like the idea, but over time I realized that it’s probably not as good of an idea as I thought. I highly doubt anyone would be able to forgive him after all the horrible things he did, and the new additions people have been making to the ending are so good that they make Ben’s survival seem pointless.
Hey, I’d take EE for the whole Saga, honestly.
Yeah, imagine how great that would be. Several characters would be much more fleshed out: Luke in the original movie, Padme in AOTC and ROTS, Leia in TFA and TROS, and Luke in TLJ. It would add so many more layers to the experience.
I’ve seen a lot of people call D-O a “MeToo” Droid and I guess that idea stuck with me.
What sort of websites do you visit? How does D-O have anything to do with sexual abuse? He’s just supposed to be Ochi’s mistreated pet, making us sympathize with him more.
Come on, that’s just mean. This movie at least has some redeeming qualities.
A four hour extended cut is a terrible idea though.
If Leia got referred to as Queen from ESB onward, maybe I would like that. But as it is, I think it would be unnecessarily confusing.
Yeah, probably not a good idea. I like Kylo’s real name being relatively common, and I don’t think there’s any audio of the characters saying “Bail”.
Star Wars fans whenever someone says “animal abuse is bad”:
It’s about the universe conspiring to make C-3PO suffer.
Go back to STC, dude. We don’t need your constant name-calling and anti-woman attitude here.
You should watch Hal’s TFA edit in full, it’s really good. The juxtaposition of Han’s death and the Republic’s destruction is a big punch in the gut, and it sets up the tone of TLJ wonderfully.
“Who’s the girl” is a repeated line. Rey talks about waiting for her parents. The flashback focuses on her being left as a child. The phrasing “but there’s someone who still could” begs the audience to question “who?”.
Johnson just worked with what he was given.
None of that points to any sort of mystery surrounding Rey’s parents. There’s a mystery surrounding Rey’s incredible power, and Rey’s abandonment is a key plot point, but those two plot threads are not the same.
Also, when Maz says “There’s someone who still could”, she explicitly says that she’s not referring to Rey’s parents, but instead to Luke. Her whole speech is basically saying “Forget your parents, your future lies with the Jedi now.” I wish that was where they left it, instead of making Rey’s entire character arc about heritage and bloodline or whatever.
Go away, dude. We don’t want any of your immature “more like Ruin Johnson” attitude in here.
I’d actually argue that their connection until the Throne Room is much less problematic than either of the other part 2 romances in the Saga.
Can you elaborate on this? I kind of understand your point with Anakin and Padme, but is Han and Leia seriously worse than Reylo?
I wasn’t doubting Rey Nobody, I like that element of her character. I just wish they did it in less of a painfully obvious, fourth wall breaking way. I still don’t see any evidence of Rey’s parents being a mystery in TFA, you haven’t provided any evidence to support it. I would like it more if they just treated her heritage as a matter of fact “of course she’s a nobody” sort of thing, and focused Rey’s character arc around her intense Force power and desire for companionship.
There’s tension, but it’s shown in a very abusive way, with Kylo forcing himself on Rey through their connection. The defining moment at the end is Rey choosing to cut off the Force bond, showing that she doesn’t want any of what Kylo is promising. It’s one of many moments in the third act intended to set up Trevorrow’s script, making the sudden director change really jarring.
BB8 in the AT-ST was removed, as was the coin gun.
But the plugging holes bit and the drunken alien were left in. So were all of Hux’s slapstick moments. BB-8 and Hux play the part of comic relief way too much in this movie, and I don’t think Poppa’s edit does enough to remedy that. But I understand if you disagree.
I agree, though, that TLJ took a misstep in making Rey super concerned about identifying her parents. Kylo should have promised something like “I know where your parents are” rather than “who” they are.
Yeah, that would have been better. It would fit in more with Rey’s desire for belonging, and it would feel less meta.
Oh god, the Reylo virus is spreading! 😛
In all seriousness though, I don’t see many romantic undertones in Rey and Kylo’s relationship. Certainly not enough to warrant a “they got married and lived happily ever after” type situation, especially considering all the things Kylo did.
The Last Jedi: Rekindled pleases me just fine and if it doesn’t please you then I’m sorry. There is no pleasing you.
It would please me if he cut all the stupid cartoon jokes. But as it is, with the prank call and the dumb BB-8 stuff still in the movie, it still doesn’t please me.
Was Rey’s parentage actually an essential part of her character? That’s what everyone assumed after TFA, but in the movie she basically just drops the question after Maz says they’re never coming back. I feel like Rian directly addressed the Rey theories just to show that he “subverted the fan expectations” or whatever.
Her desire for belonging was essential to her character, and having every character in TFA remark about it tied the question of parentage to it. That’s why calling her no one was so satisfying: people in-universe continue to wonder how she could have such power, just like in the real world.
I feel like you’re misinterpreting TFA. Her desire for belonging is a big part of her character, but her parentage was never a big part of it. It was actually almost never commented on, the only people obsessed with Rey’s parents were the fans. That’s why acknowledging the Rey theories feels like an unnecessary fourth wall break for me, because there’s zero evidence in TFA that Rey’s parents are anyone important.
And that is why pleasing everyone with this movie is impossible. No matter what you do, at least one contingent of people will hate it.