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Post: #289344
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/289344/action/topic#289344
Time: 6-Jun-2007 3:28 PM

The way I did it:

Re-author with DVDShrink, no compression (ignore warnings about the file being too big), that way I can have just the main movie and strip out all the subtitles and other languages (can't remember if there are any).

Then run DVD-RB (with the AviSynth script) on the re-authored ISO (mount it with Nero ImgDrive or similar, or just save the files to a folder on the hard disk).

This gives as much space as possible for the main movie.

Hope that helps.

Post: #288947
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288947/action/topic#288947
Time: 3-Jun-2007 5:14 PM

Going back to the original topic... this AVISynth script works for ROTJ:

subtitle("There will be no bargain.",-1,470,14375,14465,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("I will not give up my favourite decoration.",-1,470,14525,14680,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("I like Captain Solo where he is.",-1,470,14725,14810,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("I have come for the bounty on this Wookiee.",-1,470,20500,20605,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("At last we have the mighty Chewbacca.",-1,470,20750,20860,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("This bounty hunter is my kind of scum...",-1,470,22550,22670,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("fearless and inventive.",-1,470,22675,22750,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("It's too late for that, Solo.",-1,470,28750,28840,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("You may have been a good smuggler...",-1,470,28850,28960,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("...but now you're Bantha fodder.",-1,470,28965,29050,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Take him away.",-1,470,29220,29270,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Bring her to me.",-1,470,29440,29500,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("I'm sure.",-1,470,29740,29790,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("I told you not to admit him.",-1,470,33460,33570,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("He must be allowed to speak.",-1,470,33610,33675,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("You weak-minded fool!",-1,470,33700,33770,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("He's using an old Jedi mind trick.",-1,470,33810,33915,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Your mind powers will not work on me, boy.",-1,470,34150,34270,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("There will be no bargain, young Jedi.",-1,470,34680,34785,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("I shall enjoy watching you die.",-1,470,34820,34900,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Bring me Solo and the Wookiee.",-1,470,39725,39805,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("They will all suffer for this outrage.",-1,470,39815,39915,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Soon you will learn to appreciate me.",-1,470,43150,43300,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Move him into position.",-1,470,45215,45275,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)
subtitle("Put him in.",-1,470,45860,45915,"FranklinGotTDemCon",32,$ffffff)

Post: #288826
Topic: A possible reason why the lightsabers are so messed up in ROTJ
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288826/action/topic#288826
Time: 2-Jun-2007 4:26 AM

Interesting. My normal workflow on digital photography (I use RAW mode on a Canon EOS-20D) is to load the RAW image into Photoshop, hit "auto levels" and start from there.

Another thing I noticed while showing a friend the difference between the Han/Greedo shooting first scene - in the SE version everything is far too dark. Yes, you can see Greedo, but you can't see anything in the background. In the original version you can see the textures on the walls etc.

Somewhere (X0 project?) I read about this being like the visual equivalent of turning the bass and treble controls up to maximum because it "sounds better". (Which it doesn't of course.)

Post: #286961
Topic: I think I figured it out...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286961/action/topic#286961
Time: 17-May-2007 9:12 AM

Original unaltered trilogy: The story of good vs evil, Rebellion vs Empire, good wins.

Prequel trilogy and Special Edition trilogy: The story of Anakin Skywalker.

Basically the original and the SE versions are two completely different stories.

And I watched episode 3 last night and thought it was like watching a computer game...

Post: #282198
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282198/action/topic#282198
Time: 13-Apr-2007 2:27 PM

Ok, thanks. Didn't think there were any in Empire.

If I've got the list of subtitles then I can use the showframenumber() function to find the correct frame numbers. Will post the script here when finished of course.

Thanks again.

Post: #282184
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/282184/action/topic#282184
Time: 13-Apr-2007 11:23 AM

YES!!!

Finally got it to work with DVD-Rebuilder Pro.

The problem is that the free version of DVD-Rebuilder inserts the trim() function before any custom functions (such as subtitles), resetting the frame count to zero. The Pro version inserts it after the custom functions meaning that things like subtitles can use absolute frame numbers.

Now, has anyone done the same thing for Empire and Jedi? Really want to get some decent anamorphic versions of these with decent looking subs on them. If anyone has... can they post the subtitle scripts? :-)

Post: #271170
Topic: POLL: Which version of the OT do you own?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271170/action/topic#271170
Time: 11-Feb-2007 8:26 AM

Ok, here goes... firstly home-made recordings...

Star Wars recorded from its first TV showing in 1983! Most of title crawl missing (spent ages trying to find a blank VHS cassette and missed the intro), recording starts just as the last lines of opening crawl recede into the distance. Opening battle complete though. Threepio's line about the tractor beam is in place, as is the "close the blast door" line. Didn't notice this was missing until I finally bought a VHS set with the stereo mix many years later. Also hadn't quite got the hang of hitting pause during the ad breaks, so there's a Green Cross Code advert (starring David Prowse as the Green Cross Code man) on there as well. Ought to copy that to DVD I suppose.

Empire Strikes Back - never recorded this off the TV, hadn't seen this one all the way through until I bought the box set.

Return Of The Jedi - recorded from TV in about 1990.

And now official releases:

1995 VHS THX remastered set in pan & scan (didn't have a widescreen TV, hadn't discovered the joys of widescreen yet), limited edition box set with Darth Vader on the outside.

1997 VHS SE box set in widescreen. Saw all these at the cinema, I missed it first time round as I was minus 6 months old when SW came out in the cinema (I was born in 1977).

1999 The Phantom Menace DVD

2002 Attack Of The Clones DVD

2004 SE original trilogy box set - watched once, thought it was rubbish. Bonus disc is funny though, David Prowse's undubbed dialogue in broad Bristolian! (I live about 15 miles north of Bristol...)

2005 Revenge Of The Sith DVD

2006 DVDs, bought all 3, of the SEs only ANH has ever been in my DVD player and that was simply to compare the Death Star battle against the original. Have re-encoded all 3 theatrical movies to anamorphic and watch those instead.

Post: #271165
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/271165/action/topic#271165
Time: 11-Feb-2007 7:16 AM

Right, think I've found the problem...

The free version of DVD Rebuilder splits the movie into segments and encodes as a whole sequence of separate AVI files, based (I think?) on DVD chapters. It then joins all the video segments together when it creates the VOBs.

The problem here is that when a new segment starts the frame counter gets reset to zero - so the frame number for the subtitle filter is never reached. And of course if you use the "correct" frame numbers the subs will come up in every segment, not what you want!

Might need to use DVD Rebuilder in 3-click rather than 1-click mode and edit the AviSynth script for that segment individually. Unless someone can think of a better way of doing it?

Post: #270667
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/270667/action/topic#270667
Time: 8-Feb-2007 7:18 PM

Tried that and yes, it did list the frame numbers down the left hand side. So I had another fiddle.

Found two problems...

Firstly I have to put the filename of the font in, "FRADMCN.TTF".

Secondly the forum software appears to have put a space in between the "subtitle" and "(". Removing this space and changing the filename looks to have fixed it - I ran a quick test from frames 10 to 300 and "Going somewhere, Solo?" appeared over the Lucasfilm logo.

So the subtitle filter is working anyway...

Can I just check something? Are you using the PAL or NTSC DVDs as a source? If you're using NTSC then it's possible the frame numbers may need changing for the PAL version...

Post: #270560
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/270560/action/topic#270560
Time: 8-Feb-2007 1:45 PM

No joy... :-(

Here's what I did. I'm using the free version of DVD Rebuilder, latest versions of all the components:

Using DVD Shrink with no compression, extract just the movie to a folder on the hard disk stripping out all the alternate languages and subtitles. No need for the Huttese subtitles as we're burning them in.

In DVD-RB:

Options > AVS options > Advanced > Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9 (applied to all titles as there's only one).

Options > AVS options > Advanced > Filter editor, copy and paste Goose's script above

Options > HC Encoder options > Best quality

Then hit "Backup DVD".

No subtitles come up. I've tried it with the font name as-is, also putting the filename of the TTF file into the subtitle() filter. What am I doing wrong?

Post: #269917
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269917/action/topic#269917
Time: 5-Feb-2007 8:21 PM

It is re-encoding as it converts 4:3 letterbox to 16:9 anamorphic (which on a CRT at least looks better than zooming).

I think the problem is that DVD-RB splits the movie into segments, and the frame numbers in the subtitle filter are never reached.

Still cursing Lucas... what's wrong with using the multi-angle feature for different language subtitles? That's what they do for the opening crawl.

Post: #269781
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/269781/action/topic#269781
Time: 5-Feb-2007 3:51 AM

I tried pasting that bit of code into the AVISynth filter window in DVD Rebuilder but it doesn't seem to have worked...

Apologies for sounding like a n00b, but... can someone point me in the direction of a complete step-by-step guide to doing this? I'm using the PAL DVDs as a source with DVD Rebuilder in one-click mode. Do I perhaps need to run DVD Rebuilder in step-by-step mode and edit the AVISynth script for the Greedo clip directly?

Confused of UK...

Post: #268319
Topic: Burning in subtitles - quick HOWTO?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/268319/action/topic#268319
Time: 28-Jan-2007 10:41 AM

I've been having a play around with DVD Rebuilder and have re-encoded the OOT DVDs to anamorphic widescreen (which does look better as it cuts down scan lines on a CRT and interpolates on other displays). It also means my TV will auto-switch to widescreen mode rather than me manually having to alter it every time.

Now while I've managed to preserve Greedo's subtitles on the DVD I'd rather have them burnt in on the picture as player-generated subtitles look very blocky. Also Greedo's dialogue in the cantina is slightly different on the DVD subtitles to the original VHS version and I'd like to fix this.

Reading other threads it seems people have done this... anyone got a quick step by step guide?

If it's successful and easy enough then I'll redo Empire and Jedi as well...