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Smithers said:

These are doable, the rest seems really tough to get right but I’m certain that these changes can be made by one guy. If only adywan was still on the case, then we’d get real practical sets and such.

Adywan is just a man, not a mythical beast. A man with a lot of dedication, but anyone can do this.

Anakin Starkiller said:

That color correction is just…groan.

I won’t lie brother you really aren’t very nice a lot of the time

The effect might bleed into the horizon, or at least that’s what I would worry about.

A version is upload to Google Drive. PM me for the link. I’m gonna make a second version, though.

The biggest problem, in my opinion, of Revenge of the Sith is all the time spent on Coruscant not really doing much. It’s all spent talking about nothing in service of setting up the plot that will begin later in the movie. This is a job that should be done in the opening crawl, and so I moved it there. The movie now begins with Anakin finding Mace Windu trying to assassinate the Chancellor. Dooku’s death is already explained, Mace Windu’s suspicion of Palpatine after he refused to step down, that’s already explained.

Some plot lines have been cut, making a tighter story and simplifying the plot. Padmé is not pregnant, the twins have already been born. General Grievous does not exist. Anakin has no premonitions of Padmé’s death, and his turn to the dark side is completely political.

I think this turns the movie into a focused adventure about the overthrow of the Galactic Republic and founding of the Galactic Empire, and the birth of the villain of Star Wars. A 38 minute story, about the length of a TV special that covers the backstory of the Star Wars Trilogy.

GENERAL CHANGES

-I have a new custom crawl made using Jack Pumpkinhead’s crawl creator. Thanks! The pan down was made by me from scratch in Blender, and the music was replaced by the Shadows of the Empire opening music.
-The movie opens on Mace Windu already having Palpatine pinned down, Anakin entering the room.
-Mace Windu has a blue lightsaber. Not even because I take issue with a purple lightsaber, but because I think the new lightsaber color needs a proper introduction this fanedit can’t give.
-Anakin isn’t called Vader until he’s in the suit. I think it kinda makes him feel less solidified, it also makes it feel like the Jedi are just a religion or philosophy, and Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side is more of a political turn, not him leaving one Bureaucratic Order and joining another.
-The Order 66 sequence is cut out. For one, I think it would be weird to show the battles of Utapau and Kashyyyk without them having been established earlier in the movie. Also, Obi-Wan has a much better introduction later. I think it’s contradictory to the OT and that the movie is better without it anyway. Cutting it makes it look a lot more like a coup than the ultimate culmation of a massive plan.
-Obi-Wan is introduced when he leaves Utapau and calls Bale Organa about his troops ambushing him.
-Any references to the troops being clones are removed or altered. The opening crawl introduces the Clone Wars as an attack on the Republic by Dooku’s Clone Droid Army. Mostly because I think it makes the Republic firmly the good guys and the Separatists (and Dooku, and by extension the Sith and Palpatine) firmly the bad guys, and I think establishing them that way is kind of important given that besides Palpatine and Obi-Wan, you do not know these characters yet.
-Cringy dialogue and acting is cut down, but I tried to not be too much of a zealot about it.
-Dialogue and ideas that I felt kinda undermined the magic of the Jedi, etc, was cut wherever I could, though. The Jedi don’t have security cameras. Unfortunately though there’s some cases I don’t think could have been removed. Yoda still talks about special sessions of Congress.
-Yoda doesn’t use a lightsaber. He and Obi-Wan don’t fight clones on their way to the Temple, and he doesn’t fight Sidious.
-Additionally, because it would be weird if Yoda told Obi-Wan to kill Anakin, but he doesn’t fight the Emperor, he doesn’t. Obi-Wan looks for Anakin on his own.
-Obi Wan and Anakin’s fight is one continuous thing now that Yoda and Sidious don’t fight.
-The birth of the twins is cut out. They were already born before the movie started.
-The Emperor and Vader don’t overlook the Death Star, but Coruscant, using the video in the Prequel Fanedit Care Package.
-The credits are cut out and replaced by a thank you to the OT.com community! I don’t think the original credits should have been put on this fanedit, because not enough of the movie is still there for enough people’s work to still be there for me to think the original credits are appropriate, but I don’t even know how I would begin making new credits. Besides, I kinda think credits are an outdated practice. Nobody watches them and you can put the credits online now, nobody is hurt by leaving credits out of the movie.

Preview Stuff:
Opening Logos, Crawl, and Scene (this video is kind of old, but the general ideas are the same)

If you have VLC, put it 50 ms ahead. That’ll put it roughly one frame early before the frames in question, roughly one frame late before the frames, and I personally can’t tell the difference unless it’s more than like 75 ms out of sync.

That’s also the case in Legends, although Hal doesn’t have to be bound to either, either.

Jackpumpkinhead’s crawl maker looks fantastic, I’d check that one out.

I feel like Takodana should remain green because of Rey’s line. Maybe D’Qar could be in autumn.

But where? How? Why?

ChainsawAsh said:

Basically, if you don’t notice any difference between the “original” and “compressed” sides of this picture, then the AVCHD is probably plenty high quality for you. If you can tell the difference, then you’ll probably notice a quality bump with the MKV.

You also won’t have a comparison running through the whole movie. I can tell the difference, but I doubt I would while actually watching the movie, I only notice because the uncompressed image is right next to it.

Laserdiscs aren’t HD, and are pretty low quality if you’re used to HD. HD reconstructions don’t exist (yet).

Cameron Samurai said:

Because some of us aren’t interested in doing the whole sodding sequel trilogy and just want to make a done-in-one for the sheer fun of it? What’s your problem?

I was just thinking that the Force Awakens doesn’t really work except as the first movie in a series of movies, it literally ends on a cliffhanger.

Do whatever you want, though, it’s your fanedit. I just don’t think it works.

How does that mesh with TFA?

Why are there so many edits like this with TFA and TLJ, where a character is changed to live or die with absolutely no regard with how that might mesh with the next movie?

RogueLeader said:

ben_danger said:

Shroud of the Dark Side did this

While I personally don’t like the idea of inserting footage from other stuff (besides how Hal made Padmé survived), Shroud had a lot of cool ideas.

For me it’s really case-by-case. With how influenced by Blade Runner the prequels are, though, I would probably be cool with a lot of Blade Runner being put in the prequels.

The Empire regrouping in the Unknown Regions in Return of the Jedi is a lot worse than the galaxy not being a utopia.

Smithers said:

I’m having trouble understanding the arguments to hide Anakin’s turn to preserve the twists, I think I’m missing something. My pint was to preserve the whole point of the PT, which is to show Anakin’s fall to the dark side, but the point was to hide the fact that anakin has any relation to Luke. In ANH, Obi-Wan talks about how darth vader was a pupil of his that turned to evil, so the audience (given the footage available) WOULD immediately know that anakin and darth vader are one in the same, but the audience doesn’t necessarily know that darth vader and luke’s father are one in the same. What we know from ANH is that luke’s father was a jedi and that darth vader killed him, so all we have to do is imply that Luke’s father died during the 20 year long jedi purge at the hands of vader. Am I missing something?

Return of the Jedi names Luke’s father as Anakin.

I have it on my computer if it isn’t, although the blender files have been tampered with so you’ll see my crap on it.

It’s also on the Spleen if you have an account.

#BringOTBack said:

Ok. You’re Jar Jar Binks. I’ll make a constructed language called Gungen. Sample line: Meesa ko’wa fwesey gat barg (ENGLISH: I always repay a debt).
Words so far:
Swelet-Hello/Goodbye
Naw-No
Jey-Yes
Barg-Debt
Wheen-Look
Rak-Senator
Ko’wa-Always
Meesa-I
Fwesey-Repay
Sey-Pay

I’m gonna be honest with you, as someone who used to make constructed languages and was part of a conlang community, that’s already not looking very good, but it’s no worse than Huttese so it’s not like it would stick out.

It may not be that big of a deal with there being no connection between Luke and Dagobah, but if there is some connection between Luke and Dagobah the line becomes much, much more interesting.

The already released Empire fanedit has the prequel-era logos on it.

(edit: whoops, looks like I took so long to make this comment that Hal himself beat me too it, sorry)

OutboundFlight said:

RogueLeader said:

If Holdo has been Ackbar it wouldn’t have really worked. The whole point of Holdo is to be someone we don’t know and don’t trust, much like Poe, someone without an established relationship with the audience.

Interesting point, but I’d argue that suits Ackbar’s character perfectly.

From the films we don’t know much about Ackbar. He’s a talented strategist. But the moment the rebels realize the shields are still on, Ackbar immediately says “retreat”. It’s Lando who encourages them to keep fighting. Even the trap line signifies he doesn’t like to have the odds stacked against while on the offensive.

In fact, when we think of Ackbar we immediately go to the Battle of Endor. Like Poe immediately jumping to Holdo’s victory. Poe/audience has high expectations to see the leader in a commanding role, but is disappointed by their retreating. This lines up perfectly for Ackbar, who we all think is cool but know little about.

I imagine people would just hate on TLJ anyway with the claim “they ruined Ackbar”, but personally I think he’d be a better choice.

You can’t really emote or act much in that puppet, though, that’s why he and other Mon Calamari are relegated to background roles.

Embrace radical edits. I don’t think you could make a good prequel trilogy without doing something at least somewhat radical, even if you’re completely starting from scratch, and not just reediting the movie.

Any progress?