Spaceblackknight

As for Titan A.E., that was also animated digitally like Anastasia but ultimately finished as a filmout likely for budgetary reasons. The digital screening at SuperComm 2000 was probably a 960p pre-release version from the SGX files before the final mastering and filmouts took place.

Ice Age was a 2k DI render and finish and did get a digital screening for industry and CEOs, but when Fox got a distro rights deal with Blue Sky they added their masthead and Union/DGA compliant ending credits, sourced from 35mm and scanned 2k with lasergraphics onto the DI. That explains why these bits were added and not initially part of the render since they always looked really janky on the 35mm prints. Fox did not have a compatible HD digital version of their masthead until 2004 via collab with Blue Sky, as the only digital version prior was the 525p low res render from Flip Your Lid which was always meant to be transferred to film.

It wasn’t the first time Disney/Pixar did small changes mid-theatrical run. Toy Story 2 as you may know had a very tight production schedule from nearly losing most of the original files and the Pixar team scrambling to finish it all just a month before release. The first run 35mm prints of Toy Story 2 from Nov 19th 1999 only had standard credits and not the intended “bloopers” ones, which were added to all later US prints and some of the foreign dubbed/localized ones.

And as for the alternate “globe” footage during Buzz’s speech, that was definitely first seen on the foreign dubbed/localized 35mm prints, some of which only had the standard end credits retranslated, and made it’s way to the PAL DVDs. The UK/AUS and foreign subbed 35mm prints still used the 2nd US version, since those were often refurbished 35mm US prints with a ratings card/BVI reel badly spliced on and the MPAA cards often hacked out.

Monsters Inc. was also basically the same situation as TS2, standard end credits on the premiere theatrical run and bloopers credits on the later/foreign ones. However, Monsters had two versions with differently framed shots, VFX and object rendering (the “piss” snow cone being a notable example), the Nov 2001 theatrical version and the December 2001 “company ending” version. The Nov 2001 theatrical version, the basis of many widescreen and HD/4k versions, has a few shots that are differently composed and framed along with others having different/unfinished renders of objects and standard ending credits. The December 2001 “company end” version, also seen on most VHS and 4x3 DVD versions, has several shots that are reframed and recomped with different renders for objects and backgrounds, in addition to a new end credits that has bloopers and cast doing the musical number “Put That Thing Back Where It Came From or So Help Me”.

In addition, it’s foreign dubbed/localized version on 35mm and some PAL DVDs also have alternate shots not on the English versions, with some characters doing only gestures instead of lines to reduce rerendering lip sync.

Good idea!

However, the Pixar end logo wasn’t a change made just for home media releases. I once saw eBay caps of a 35mm reels set (someone was asking $10k USD for, ridiculous you say) and one of the sellers pics had a shot from the Wall-E variant and then the MPAA G rating card. I also recall another eBay CA listing for a Spanish localized/dubbed 35mm print and that had the Pixar variant along with a scratchy BVI up front.

It sounds like the films director originally wanted to use this variant since the teaser had it, but some memos were ignored by higher ups and did not make the cut on premiere, but got added to later prints when new filmouts were made.

Sambarker04 said:

Great find. Hope you might figure out a way to pay this and decrypt it.

Not ATM unfortunately. Payment isn’t the issue as there’s plenty of places that sell itunes gift card codes for many regions, what is now is account creation for the specific region. TL/DR: you used to be able to make a itunes account easily with random information and no phone number required, but with the IOS security revisions it’s semi region locked nowadays and much harder to create accounts unless you have a trusted someone with a phone number for the correct region (and burner/paid numbers no longer work ether).

I had access to a Spanish itunes account some time ago through a logo hunting group I was in, but not anymore due to the group disbanding for reasons I can’t get into publicly.

Anybody else from Spain here?

As for Toy Story and 2, I might have a new possible lead for the pre-2009 masters. iTunes Spain has listings for 1 and 2 that are:

HD only (no 4k HDR, otherwise i’d run the same 24fps as the plastered version)

Castilian Spanish dubbed only

PAL 25fps

and appears to have color timing to the 2005 DVD release

iTunes Spain TS1 listing

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iTunes Spain TS2 listing

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These are only to buy with an iTunes Spain account in Euros. Might be worth looking into ASAP before they get updated.

Upon checking, none of the UK and foreign physical releases have it and all feature the standard VA for eBoy. Even the UK and AUS D+ with all their “exclusivity” BS, doesn’t even have an “secondary” English track with it.

However it’s alleged that some UK TV airings, specifically 1.78 formatted versions on former UK Disney Channel/Disney XD, had the UK regional audio. This version might also air on other channels like BBC1.

Don’t the UK DVD and foreign BDs have it? I know they did similar regional cameos for others like Cars, where the UK release had Jeremy Clarkson as Harv and was featured on the UK DVD and 2007 foreign BDs.

Venny said:

SpacemanDoug said:

Certain streaming platforms used the mono mix with the 4K master

Oh which ones?!

I know iTunes has it on the 4gb download, but its been said Fandando/Vudu also have a mono track.

All DVDs use the standard US cut since Warner claimed the remaining international rights from Cannon (who prepped and released the extended cut overseas).

That depends on if the YT video uploaded by the source was actually encoded 5.1, because most YT videos are stereo due to the source files being multi channel in a format like LPCM (where YTs encoders cannot process it direct in 5.1) and always converts it down to AAC 2.0. If the source video file has an audio codec YT accepts (like AAC which can go and be set up to 5.1) it’s usually left intact and most video downloaders can detect and grab it with the video stream.

If the video is indeed in native 5.1 but the downloaders cannot grab it or the correct audio, worst case scenario is configurating Windows/Realtek sound driver to output 5.1 then setting Audacity to have 6 audio busses and record in Windows WASAPI mode.

Take a look at this thread here: https://fanrestore.com/thread-1914.html

Stepstone said:

Spaceblackknight said:

grafxuser said:

Out of interest has this new HD release been advertised anywhere, or just popped up as an extra purchase option out of the blue?

Only in the UK AFAIK. It seems Entertainment Film Distributors (who are still around) are the main producer and current rights holder for everywhere but the US. Slipstream did get an extremely limited theatrical run here by a small distributor that not only went belly up not long after release, but also allegedly did not file a proper copyright and thus went PD shortly afterwards.

Didn’t Entertainment Film have a successful run on VHS and dvd releases as EIV, Entertainment In Video, with the almost the
same logo.

EIV is Entertainment Films home video division and were the ones who put out proper releases as Slipstream was always under copyright in the UK.

It’s possible the 1996 Uruguay act could take it out of PD in the US since it’s not even that old and was copyrighted as an international production.

grafxuser said:

Out of interest has this new HD release been advertised anywhere, or just popped up as an extra purchase option out of the blue?

Only in the UK AFAIK. It seems Entertainment Film Distributors (who are still around) are the main producer and current rights holder for everywhere but the US. Slipstream did get an extremely limited theatrical run here by a small distributor that not only went belly up not long after release, but also allegedly did not file a proper copyright and thus went PD shortly afterwards.

This was a 2k digital production with some sections (the David Hasselhoff footage) shot on 35mm and completed as a 2k DI. Even though they were still doing filmouts of stuff until at least 2012, Paramount’s HD master is derived from the DI.

Surprised they went to a filmout on this one since they could have easily just upscaled the 2k DI. Maybe they rescanned the raw 35mm live action footage and while they recomped the filmout sections that had different color it may have made sense to have most of it come from that as opposed to the DI with drastically different grading.

freshjim said:

Hi All, I’m a massive slipstream fan and have been googling when this will be HD widescreen I’ve looked on this forum for the past 8 years or more hoping for an answer if we will ever get it. Well I needed to come on here to tell you…. It’s now available in HD Widescreen on Amazon Prime!!! It got released today and it looks amazing!! Had to tell you guys. Enjoy!

iTunes UK has a legit HD version from a 4k scan of the OCN. Judging by the preview, it’s 1.85 and has mono audio.

Will take a look tomorrow once I get a UK itunes card to rent it there.

Spaceblackknight here! Some of you may know me from Fanres and blu-ray.com.

This was on Cinemax and AMC+ about a year ago with what looked like a 4k remaster. From what I remember the “House for Sale” scene was the same butcher as the BD unfortunately.

Only other way to properly restore the butcher job would be to get a 35mm print.

Looks nice from the YT sample I saw! Better than the R2 DVDs and a huuuggge step up from the old Disney masters.

BTW, I don’t think Disney owns US rights to first film anymore. Unlike the sequels, they did not produce the first film and only got distribution rights for a certain period of time. It’s not on streaming anywhere (though they do have the sequels) and the DVD is OOP, which tells you the obvious. ITV owns international rights through distributor ITC, hence why it got better treatment overseas than what the House of Mouse had done over here.

If I had to guess, US rights are now ether with the main producer now or perhaps Multicom Entertainment (who owns the catalog of one of the producers The Kushner Locke Company).