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#436061
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Who Felt Return Of The Jedi Was A Letdown At The Time?
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skyjedi2005 said:

Too bad Smith lost all credibility when he sold out and made More Jay and Silent Bob and a second Clerks.  Things he said he wouldn't do.

Also those kissass , glowing reviews of the star wars prequels and JJ trek.

I fondly remember reading his advance review for ROTS... how the final duel between Anakin and Obi-Wan almost brought him to tears and then comparing it to Othello or Hamlet. L-O-L.

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#436060
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What's the beef with Prowse?
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LexX said:

thecolorsblend said:

I would've thought if anybody had been considered a loose cannon, it would've been Anthony Daniels following his "the storytelling always gets subsumed" remark. That couldn't have won him any points with LFL.

I think Daniels is very close to LFL, without it he wouldn't be anything. He's been C-3PO in all things, cartoons, ads, Star Tours and all kinds of advertising things. And without him there really isn't 3PO at all so it's not like LFL has a choice. He's the only one in all the movies, too.

Yeah, it'd be harder for LFL to snub Daniels than Prowse. At the very least, they would've had to find someone who could do a convincing C-3PO voice imitation. Anyway, it is strange that some actors get a free pass from LFL when people like Prowse don't.

Harrison, Carrie and Mark have all made subtle - and not so subtle - jabs at Lucas over the years, but LFL knows it would be impossible and laughable to somehow retaliate against them. Harrison, in particular, can definitely get away with saying stuff like how Han Solo was an idiotic character and that ROTJ sucked and was basically made to sell toys, etc. Harrison can get away that, but someone like Gary Kurtz can't.

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#436055
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What's the beef with Prowse?
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Chewtobacca said:

There was a very similar thread before.

Ah, sorry about that. I had tried to do a search on the forum but it was giving me some problems. Either way, this thread has been enlightening. For example, I had no idea that Prowse was cleared in the ROTJ script leak situation, about his participation in The People vs George Lucas, and that he'd been annoyed that he wasn't asked to be in ROTS. I also didn't know the thing about Mark Hamill. Wow. lol.

Anyway, thanks for all the info, guys. Pretty interesting stuff.

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#435743
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What's the beef with Prowse?
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So, this is something I've been wondering about for a while. What exactly did David Prowse do to incur Lucas' wrath? You guys are some of the most knowledgeable SW history fans I've seen online, so I thought I'd ask here. I heard about the BTS shenanigans going on at Celebration V, how he was banned from the event, how OfficialPix was told not to sell photos of Vader, etc.  Has he done something extra in recent years to piss Lucas off even more?

Anyway, here's what I've been able to gather off the top of my head... from various stuff I've heard about over the years.

- Annoyed that he was dubbed by James Earl Jones in ANH
- Took credit for much of the lightsaber stunt work in ESB? I've read interviews where Hamill was kind of bugged by that, when most of the stuff was done by Bob Anderson.
- Leaked ROTJ script details to the press in '82 or '83... the beginning of the end? lol.
- Signed "David Prowse is Darth Vader" on autographs for years and years. Recently, however, Lucas & Co. seemed to hear about this and told him to stop immediately.

..... Anything else? I also looked at this official site, and Lucasfilm told him that he was banned from appearing at Celebration V because had "burned too many bridges" with them.

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#435739
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Thanks for that post, adywan. Pretty much sums it up. I've gotten into way too many arguments with those kinds of sheep on the SW IMDb boards... In a nutshell, their argument is this: "Stop complaining and just be happy that Lucas gave you SW in the first place." It makes me want to pull my hair out.

That Dawson gif will never get old. LOL.

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#432341
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Jon Stewart hour long interview with George Lucas at CV
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SilverWook said:

SpaceOddity said:

I skimmed through the videos as well, and I'm a little dumbfounded at how awkward and trite the whole thing with Lucas was. (I'm also confused as to why Stewart was there, since I've never gotten the impression he was a SW fan, lol).

Anyway, it's basically Lucas just plugging his latest stuff... Mark comes out to introduce the ROTJ clip, and then Carrie comes on, cracks a couple jokes, and then it's over. Seriously. That's it? What a massive disappointment. It would've been interesting to have more time to actually talk to Mark and Carrie instead of resorting to cameos. Or did they have separate interviews?

They make SW references and jokes on The Daily Show quite often. Stewart was once reminded by a ghostly Leia voice how he used to fantasize about her!

Not to mention there are not one, but two Death Star models hidden in The Daily Show set. ;)

Hmm, I guess I remember a few references. I have to admit I stopped watching TDS on a regular basis in 2005... Once Steve Carell left and then Colbert moved to his own show. (So, yeah, I should definitely check out the Lucas interview....)

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#431998
Topic
Jon Stewart hour long interview with George Lucas at CV
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I skimmed through the videos as well, and I'm a little dumbfounded at how awkward and trite the whole thing with Lucas was. (I'm also confused as to why Stewart was there, since I've never gotten the impression he was a SW fan, lol).

Anyway, it's basically Lucas just plugging his latest stuff... Mark comes out to introduce the ROTJ clip, and then Carrie comes on, cracks a couple jokes, and then it's over. Seriously. That's it? What a massive disappointment. It would've been interesting to have more time to actually talk to Mark and Carrie instead of resorting to cameos. Or did they have separate interviews?

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#431996
Topic
Return of the Jedi cut-scene
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I just watched the scene for the third time... Even though the Vader clips seem awkwardly pieced together, it does look like Luke is supposed to be hearing something because he kind of flinches for a moment and then goes back to working on the saber. I think the ROTJ soundtrack booklet mentions that Vader is trying to reach Luke through the Force in this scene, too.

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#431909
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Unless GL dies and someone (not Rick McCallum) steps in to take over with a clear head and actually listens to the long-time fans, nothing will change.

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I understand the disappointment, but I don't know how everyone didn't see this coming.

But the theatrical version of Star Wars will be released one day - it's inevitable. It could take another 20 years, but it will happen.

Look at the efforts taken to restore the original cut of Metropolis. Star Wars, ESB, and ROTJ will get this level of respect and care one day. I just hope I'm around to see it.

I agree with both of these posts. While I'm disheartened, I'm certainly not surprised that Lucas is putting the 1997/2004 editions on blu-ray. The original films will never be properly restored and released (ala Blade Runner or The Godfather) as long as Lucas is in charge. Ever. However, I agree with the previous posters that we will see them one day. And yeah, I hope I'm around to see it, too. Who knows what the movie-viewing formats will be then.

I think the #1 thing that bothers me about this is that kids will be growing up watching these altered versions. However, I think the essence of the films will stay the same... even if Boba's voice is changed and Hayden's inserted in ROTJ in a half-assed way. I hope kids will still be able to see that these were some pretty decent movies... at least, I hope so. lol.

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#431898
Topic
Return of the Jedi cut-scene
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Nerfherder said:

For God's sake what is WRONG with some of you people on here??!? Adywan posted a video clip from the celebration with MARK HAMILL introducing it, AND confirming it's HIM in the clip.

FFS!

 

LOL, my thoughts exactly. Look, I'm no fan of Lucas, but to keep denying that it's Mark Hamill in the shot when Mark Hamill himself confirms it's him ... Seriously, it's a little extreme.

Mark forgot he shot the scene. After he saw it again, he remembered. It's as simple as that.

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#370643
Topic
New interview with JEDI Producer Howard Kazanjian (includes discussion of a deleted scene).
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Gaffer Tape said:

Wow, good interview.  Nice to know he's not fond of the SEs.  Interesting how he was blatantly candid at some points but deeply reserved at others.

I agree... I think it's an interesting interview but disappointing at the same time. He refused to answer a lot of the things - aka the "juicy bits" lol - that I would love to know more about. Like the cast... how involved Richard Marquand was with ROTJ... etc.

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#366483
Topic
Forget about the ridiculous and unnecessary changes...
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ChainsawAsh said:
EyeShotFirst said:

I read that during the making of Empire and Jedi George Lucas was never seen and when he actually showed up he would look like "why the hell do I have to be here"

That's interesting, because while I've heard that for Empire, I've also heard that Lucas basically directed Jedi and used Marquand as a figurehead.  Or at least, that he had so much control over what Marquand did that he basically directed it.

I've gotten this impression as well. I figured that Lucas was annoyed with losing some of the control during the production of ESB (with Kersh) that he didn't want to repeat the same experience with ROTJ. That, and pretty much every production still and behind the scenes footage I've seen with Marquand has Lucas pretty much breathing down his neck.

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#358209
Topic
TPM: A Decade Later
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Well, I was 13 at the time. I was extremely excited for the film - as was everybody - but my first reaction walking out of the theater was, "Well... that was okay, I guess." I definitely enjoyed the lightsaber fights, and that's pretty much the only reason I went to see it 2 more times afterwards - to re-watch the lightsaber duels. lol.

I've probably only watched it a couple times since the theater, and I have no desire to watch it again. The only bright spots of that film are Neeson - who did the best with what little he was given - and the music. And the cheesy Playstation game is a guilty pleasure of mine. I will give it credit for the overall look of the film - it probably looks the best out of the three movies, because it seems to have used the most amount of actual, built sets. So it doesn't look as awful and fake as the other two movies.

However, that's pretty much it. I agree with everyone else - whenever I think of TPM, I just think of one GIANT missed opportunity. That, and the memories of all the hype surrounding it's release.

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#357312
Topic
Star Wars and "betrayal"
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skyjedi2005 said:

I always thought Han forgiving lando so easily was a bit unrealistic.  Had Lando not saved Luke and then Helped to save Han he should be on the other end of hans blaster being capped.

Totally agree... The last time Han saw Lando, he was being lowered into the carbon freeze chamber. Hating the guy.

Then the next time he sees Lando - or "hears" him, I should say - is on the sail barge, when Lando's calling for help. His reaction should've been "Lando?! SCREW that guy!" instead of just "Lando!" and rushing to help him.

Actually... now that I think about it, I guess Chewie would've explained everything to Han while they were in the dungeon. Hmm. Either way, it was kind of out-of-character for Han to forgive him so easily. It would've been more interesting if he acted pretty icy towards Lando for the rest of the movie, perhaps finally forgiving him at the end and embracing him at the ewok party.

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#357306
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666-The anti-originaltrilogy.com
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generalfrevious said:

One by one, we will die off, just like each frame of the OOT is slowly decaying in the LFL archives.

Man, that's so true, but so depressing. :(

*clutches old AT-AT action figure and rocks and back forth in the corner, crying silently*

My only glimmer of hope is that I just can't fathom that 40 years now, people will even remember the prequels. It's the original trilogy that was so historic - I just hope that eventually people will discard the prequels and appreciate the OT. However, who knows what will happen.

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#356116
Topic
How could Vader not see Luke there???!!!
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C3PX said:

I always thought Luke was using the force to block Vader out. Notice Luke is concentrating really hard. Vader finally picks up on his thoughts about his sister, I always assumed that was because Luke wasn't strong enough in the force and Vader was able to see through his fog just enough to pick up that little tidbit, likely because Luke was worried about Leia at the moment and thinking too much about her and what it would be like for her if he failed.

Yeah, this is how I've always intrepreted it as well. (I wasn't aware of any of the EU "explanations"). Obviously, Luke is panicking and he happens to think of Leia, and he's mortified once Vader picks up on it.

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#351871
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"And I thought they smelled bad, on the outside!"
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LOL, that is hilarious! I just saw this note, too:

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#351870
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Return of the Jedi: the worst OT film?
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CO said:

I have to take issue with that, because I think it doesn't make any sense. 

If you are referring to a younger Anakin put in the ghost scene, that totally dispels the point of ROTJ.  ROTJ is about the redemption of Darth Vader, and how the older Anakin, is conflicted thoughout the movie, and finally saves his son by killing the Emperor.  By showing an older Anakin standing there next to an older ObiWan, you see the character come full circle, as his redemption is complete.

By changing the ending in the SE with Hayden in the ghost scene, Lucas says that Anakin died on Mustafar, which would totally contradict ROTJ since it was the OLDER Anakin who was conflicted, it was the older Anakin who killed the Emperor, and the OLDER Anakin who tells Luke, "Tell your sister you were right...." 

By saying Anakin & Vader are two different people misses the point of ROTJ because they are ONE person the whole time, and even though he went by Darth Vader throughout the OT, there was always was that part of Anakin, the good guy that never left. 

Even Lucas doesn't even understand the original story he wrote back in 1983, just so he could stick some gimmick in the 2004 DVD's and try to tie the trilogies together.

 

You are 100% spot-on. This is what I've always said to people that claim putting Hayden in there makes sense. Not only does it NOT make sense, but it completely undercuts the point of the entire movie. The whole point is that Anakin was brought back to the good side before he physically died... "For once, let me look at you with my own eyes." It's crystal clear. You're right, it's just mind-blowing because it's like Lucas forgot his own story, practically the most important part of ROTJ.

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#347772
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Filmmaker Looking For Star Wars Faneditors
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I don't know if this is such a good idea... Shouldn't we keep fanediting on the "down low" as much as possible? I know Lucasfilm probably knows full well about fan edits, but I just wonder if too much exposure would make the movie companies take a second look at all of the legal issues, etc.

Perhaps I'm being too paranoid, though.

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#347422
Topic
Looks like the prequels are not aging well.
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Gaffer Tape said:

Sometimes I wonder if Han couldn't have been used better for what he was. He was supposed to be the anti-hero of the first movie, and he did a pretty good job of that, but, of course, he redeemed himself at the end of the movie by saving Luke. Empire still had some of that. His original motivation was to get back to that, but it never really worked out. And, of course, in Return, they'd pretty much given up on his character moving at all. So, really, both the sequels wasted that character (as in, there's very little ambiguity in Empire and absolutely no development in Return) as it was originally conceived.

(But I still like what they did do with him in Empire, don't get me wrong)


I totally agree about ROTJ!Han. Both Leia and his character pretty much came to a screeching halt in that film, and to me, he's one of the weakest parts of the film. Certainly one of the biggest disappointments. He went back to square one in ROTJ instead of further developing as a character. I can't help but wonder what it would've been like if they had actually killed Han off in the film, as Harrison Ford suggested. That would've been really dark but really interesting as well. Especially the havoc it would wreak on Luke and Leia as characters.