I am a fan of the Foundation TV series, but it was sluggish and disjointed at times. I am curious to see how film edits like this pan out ThanosM.
Thanks for the heads up. I misread this article thinking they were just released for the anniversary.
I don’t see this discussion elsewhere. Did anyone else see this newly released deleted scenes for the 40th Anniversary of Return of the Jedi? They are intriguing:
This sounds interesting and will be good to watch before starting the Willow TV series.
I was hoping someone might make a TV cut of the original movie to go with the series (which has been done with other films, such as the Dark Crystal).
I watched your latest cut of the first three episodes. It is very well done and I only have one possible idea: Move all the Coruscant scenes to the end so that they all follow the “Coruscant: Capital of the Galaxy” shot. I am not sure how well that would play out as an ending though.
That being said, I still feel like much of the Coruscant and Mon Mothma stuff is mostly disconnected from the Andor storyline. Assuming it comes to together in the final two episodes, I wonder if a lot of the Coruscant scenes can be moved to the beginning of the fourth film (or maybe even its own film, which I mentioned earlier in the discussion).
It is definitely tricky with all the individual stories. I think the heist stuff does all fit nicely into film two.
The latest episode was jumping around too much. I think they are trying to keep every character story going in the one episode, but maybe in the film version you could merge some scenes and stay on a character longer.
I assume these storylines will converge over the next two episodes. I am guessing that this arc will revolve around another hunt for Andor, but from both the Rebels and the Empire.
If the stories don’t converge until the final three episodes, I wonder if a fifth film (like an episode 3.5) could be spun off with the Coruscant stuff. There would need to be something to “conclude” that story on its own though.
I wonder if it might be better has a miniseries of about 1h30m each. While some of the Coruscant scenes can be cut, trimmed, or saved for later, some of them are related to having not enough money for the rebellion and does connect to the money heist. Whatever the case, probably best to wait and see the next story arc.
It looks like the show might be four story arcs that are three episodes each:
I liked some of the character moments from the Heist team, but it was somewhat of a repeat of the previous episode: getting ready for the heist, Mon Mothma home life, and the Imperial lady looking into things.
I thought I read on some news outlet that the show was going to be told in sections every 3 episodes. Since that’s not the case, I’m going to just attach it to the current edit.
Personally, I think the latest episode feels like the beginning of another storyline with the Heist story. The opening edit may get overlong unless it is concluded in the next episode.
That being said, I wonder if the political background stuff will play into the heist or is a setup for a later storyline. You might be able to cut that out and move it to a later film version.
I just finished watching all the released episodes of season 4. The Hawkins and Eleven story do finally come together at the end there, so those two stories together would probably work. I still think there are a lot characters and side stories going on between the two groups, but perhaps when you remove all the unnecessary scenes it will flow better.
Is this it here? https://ifdb.fanedit.org/300-full-combat-edition/
It is the right year and does remove the Sparta subplot, though it doesn’t mention anything about NIN.
I’ve been watching season 4. While I like it, there are way too many storylines happening at the same time. Just when I am getting interested in one story, it shifts to another and loses steam for me.
With the length of the episodes, I wonder if it might be good to split them into four different movies [I haven’t finished the first half of the season yet to determine the best order]:
- Hopper/Joyce [Russia]
- Eleven/Mike/Will [California]
- Dustin/Lucas/Vecna [Hawkins]
- Final Film [I assume the three stories come together at some point]
The only concern is if each story has a good spot that can work as a conclusion.
Also, what is the markup for spoilers on here? I can’t seem to figure it out.
What I didn’t like:
In your edit, Luke uses the force from distance three times (once to save Leia, once to break the Imperial ships, and once to fight Kylo Ren). For me this plot device was kind of repetitive in the movie, and took the impact of Luke’s “force projection” sequence at the end. I found the second sequence where Luke uses force from distance in your edit to be a bit unnecessary, and since you used scenes of Luke’s sacrifice to assemble this sequence, his sacrifice became a lot less emotional for me towards the end of the movie;
Would you suggest cutting out Luke intervening in one of these moments to instead have the original plot device occur? I remember when I went to see TLJ the first time, I was fully expecting to see an incredibly powerful Luke, putting his full knowledge of the force on display for us to see for the first time. I tried to recreate that expectation in my film, really giving the audience a chance to sit in awe at his power. I thought my edit accomplished that pretty well, but maybe you didn’t like that version of Luke. Did you not think a powerful Luke is a good idea?
I personally love the powerful Luke moments. It helps the Mary Poppin’s Leah and the lightspeed attack make sense. It is what makes your edit stand out and I wouldn’t want to see them removed.
Since he doesn’t remember getting out of the sarlac in his armor, maybe don’t show that part? You could cut away after he uses his flame thrower inside the sarlac or start with him disoriented, being found by the Sand People.
I thought the same thing. The full Sarlacc escape could be placed somewhere later or as a post credit scene. We could follow the journey of the armor. If I remember correctly, Cobb Vanth tells the story of how he got the armor in his own flashback. I wonder if there will be a flashback where Boba Fett learns that Cobb has his armor, which would help.
EDIT: This is a bit off topic, but Boba Fett wanted to stay undercover and pretend he was still dead. I wonder if he ended up hearing about Boba Fett killing a krayt dragon, which is actually Cobb Vanth in his armor.
It might be good to add an edited version of the Sarlacc Pit scene as a prologue/opening:
My rough cut of the first 3 episodes is still only 53 mins with some brief flashbacks to be added, which shows just how little of these episodes progresses the story. Total time of the flashbacks is 71 mins, so there is still a chance there will be enough material to warrant a separate movie.
Well, episode 4 brings another 30 minute flashback. The material does seem to bring an end to the flashback story and I think it would work well as a conclusion to a standalone film.
I wonder if there will be enough flashback material to make two films: Post-RotJ and Post-Mandalorian. A snippet of the relevant Return of the Jedi scenes could be used as a prologue to the first one.
This is very much a side thing and way lower priority than anything else, but I’ve also been playing with the idea of turning both Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones into TV-length episodes as a season zero. So essentially this show would emcompass the entirety of the prequel era, as an accessible mixed-media episodic show, that was consistent with (and additive to) canon, but focusing on telling the highest quality coherent story.
The huge advantage of this approach is that chopping into episodes and maintaining my opening text means that I can keep certain plot points offscreen and recontextualise and clarify more of the movie content, and allow us to focus only on the best and most necessary content.
That said, I’d fit all of that around the existing show, rather than the other way around. I don’t want that to be mandatory, and I’d far prefer if my TCW:R allows the viewer to slot in their preferred versions of the movies.
I’ve been wanting someone to do this for a long time. I think it would be good for Revenge of the Sith as well, so you can slot in the final four Clone War episodes in between. I know you are basically doing the opposite with the shows (editing the arcs together) and wouldn’t work since I assume you are doing the same with the final episodes.
I watched one that was posted on FanEdit.org a few years back. However, while it got rid of the sillier moments, it only improved the film by a small margin. I agree with stwd4nder2 that the underlying film isn’t great. I am not sure there is much that can be done to fix it via a fanedit.
Dissent on Umbara (s03e03), aggregating the whole Umbara arc, clocking in at 52:07, is nearly finished.
While I cut a lot, I feel like I haven’t really changed the plot at all, as this one contained a lot of redundancy or filler. I don’t think you’d miss the excised half hour at all.
This sounds great. While I like the Umbara arc, it is not my favorite. It is visually stunning, but a bit a repetitive and takes too long to develop. I look forward to watching the edit.
Thanks Solemn, that’s great to hear. I’ll add in a little more about those bomb droids then, for sure.
For Padmé, getting her on the street without a lot more content needing to be included was tricky, since originally she was with Onaconda talking to another senator at the senator’s house. The problem with reinserting that is that she leaves Ono in very good spirits, which means I wouldn’t be able to use the reflections on all the bad stuff around her while she’s wandering. I tried to hint at it in the scene just before she sees that Ono’s been injured, by adding a line “I’ll check around the other senators” or similar, but it seems like that’s not quite filled the gap for you.
I’m not sure what other options I have here, so I’m open to ideas…
I watched the scene with Padme again and I see the line you added. It didn’t seem to sink in the first time, perhaps because Padme bumps into the injured senator right after. I wonder if the line could be added to her initial “thoughts” as she is flying in to the location? I don’t know if it would work with the other thoughts she is wrestling with though. Whatever the case, I think your current edit is fine (especially now that I see the line that hints at where she is going). Don’t fret about it too much. One could also just assume Padme is heading home after a long day at work.
Review cut / Workprint available - s03e01 - The Politics of War
32 minutes long, comprising Heroes on Both Sides, Pursuit of Peace, and Senate Murders.
I just watched your latest edit EddieDean and you’ve turned these episodes into an excellent single episode. It has been a long while since I’ve seen the original episodes and I had a hard time seeing/remembering what was cut or rearranged (which is a testament to your great editing).
I only have two nitpicks: The bomb bots appearance felt a bit sudden. I am also not sure why (or where) Padme is walking in the dark before being attacked. I don’t know if there are any scenes to add a bit more context or smooth these over. Whatever the case, these are minor criticisms for an otherwise amazing edit.
With five hours of content, you could consider a film trilogy. Whatever the case, I think Westworld is in desperate need of a fanedit and I am curious to see what editors might come up with.
I am looking forward to watching this edit. It might be a good version to watch with my more prudish father. I see a lot of discussion about the removal of nudity, but I am also curious to know what storylines you removed/reduced as well.