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#706997
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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Imrahil said:

timdiggerm said:

by "Jim Hensony" I think he means "cartoony". The cartoony aliens are one of the many things I don't like about ROTJ.

 

Yeah. This looked like shit. "The Dark Crystal" is okay I guess. Labyrinth was an abomination.

Henson was a neat guy. He wasn't a god. The muppets are massively overrated.  I hope this is a background character and not indicative of the shit we'll see on screen.

 Words fail me. :(

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#706948
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Blu-Ray Of Unaltered Original Trilogy Rumour
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Lord Haseo said:

lovelikewinter said:

I agree with Tyrphanax 100%.  I just want the movies I saw as a kid.  The one that made me beg my parents to dig my brother's old action figures out of the closet and let me have my own adventures.  Had I been a little older, I would have begged my parents for a laserdisc player to see them in better quality than the old releases that sat on the shelves of my local mom and pop video store.

If Lucas would have just given us a choice, then most of the hard feelings would have gone away.  He didn't for whatever reason.  But now we have the chance to have a high quality release of the OOT.  Something I though would never happen unless Lucas was dead.  

Adywan's Star Wars is a nice variant, but not the Star Wars I and many more will look at the definitive version 20, 30, 100 years down the line.

 I want the OUT on BluRay just as much as anyone of you. But let's not let nostalgia delude us. In editing the OUT is a disaster. HUNDREDS of mistakes per film and outdated technology which of course is charming, but loses it charm overtime as we grow out of adolescence. Now Ady is not only fixing errors, he is filling the imaginative gaps I filled in when watching these films as a child. Just by that alone SW:R is superior regardless of popular opinion.

I learned a lot about editing by studying the original Star Wars in college. Just counting the number of frames a shot lasted was educational. Therefore, I respectfully disagree.

Anyway, I thought this thread was about a rumor or something? ;)

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#706679
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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD**
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ratpack1961 said:

I know as big OT fans we all love practical creature effects but that thing in the JJ video looked horrible.

The creature shop at ILM for Jedi (where 99% of the creatures looked great) knew what to hide and how to make a creature look alive even when it was just some latex plastic thing.  Most of it has to do with great design and lighting.  Jabba is a masterful example.  Some of his close shots didn't look that good but his mediums were stunningly real.  All due to lighting and talent.

The reason some CG works well in broad daylight (think Sebulba) is because if done correctly you had a bigger chance of looking real then say a latex creature fully exposed in light where you can see materials, man in suit etc.  The practical creature team on the prequels was pretty bad though.  Just look at Yoda...

My point is its a mix.  If your going to do practical creatures you need insane talent and good lighting to make it work.  As it stands, that creature in the video was poorly designed and downright awful.  Sorry JJ.  Broad daylight today you need CG unless you got Phil Tippet working for you who has some new technique up his sleeve
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 Sebulba's third cousin twice removed didn't look so hot cut and pasted into Jabba's Palace though. ;)

We're probably all over analyzing a background character with very little screen time. They're not going to give away the candy store this early in the game.

Wasn't Jabba Stuart Freeborn's baby? In the old documentaries, it doesn't appear Jabba is being made at ILM with the other aliens.