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#266998
Topic
Avian Flu
Time
Originally posted by: C3PX
CONSPIRACY THEORIST MODE

Any one ever think about the possibility of these Asian flus that are always poping up could be created in a labratory? The is a massive over population problem there, enough to support regulations for the number of chilrden you can have and to "justify" infantacide. Typically it is the elderly who fall victim to these thing, as well as the weak. If you were to want to purge your nation of some excess baggage, this way gets rid of the old pensionists who, once dead, will no longer require pension checks. It also gets rid of the sickly types and some forms of handicaped people. With a good portion of the elderly and weak out of the way, you are left with the fitest of the nation, and a lot less wasted resources.

Just a thought. Not saying I believe this is what is happening. It is more of a "what if" sort of thing to think about. Worse things have happened in our history than this.

Conspiracy theory mode off.

HAHAHAHAHA no, avian flu really sucks cause it kills people that are middle aged and healthy. thats what the 1918 flu did. funny thing about sars, i think sars only killed elderly which is why it seemed alot worse then it was cause it had a crasy mortality rate. bhah stats can be used to support any idea known to man.

Frighteningly, something like this could be a very awful weapon. Perhaps far worse than anything the cold war had to offer.


naw you know that little bug called small pox, thats about hundred thousand cazillion times worse. why cause of its infection life cycle. a person can be infectedwith small pox for 12 days and not really know it, giving them time to travel and spread the disease all over the place, then it'll really mess people up. small pox would be super hard to quarentine, and to make matters worse, the disease has been effectively eliminated from the global population for about 30 odd years, and therefore a large potion of the global population dont have any sort of resistance to it. this means that the mortality rate would be way up.just look at what happened to the natives. you know some anthopologists are starting to theorize that the native population in north america was upwards of 40 million before columbus. disease such as small pox then traveled faster then the explorers and wiped out the natives throughout the continent before the europeans got there. so there you have it, thats what can happened. atleast with avian flu we get flus all the time so our bodies have some sort of resistance.
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#266997
Topic
Avian Flu
Time
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Originally posted by: Shimraa
you know nanner is pretty accurate on this one. the big fear is that the virus will mutate into a human virus then away we go, cause no one will have any natural resistance to it. now the chances of it mutating are very small, and thats why nanner is right. literally what needs to happen is for two virus's to infect the same cell. one avian flu, the other some human airborn virus. so they infect the same cell at the same time. then by shear luck there RNA gets mixed up. and the part of the RNA in the human strain that involves infecting people gets mixed in with the avian flu genome. after all that happens, the few viruses that get this combination much survive to get into another cell(once again very hard, there is a reason why viruses have to make 10000 of themselves after each replication cycle.) once it infect the new cell it needs to successfully replicate itself, the new RNA combination might nto be complete and the virus could be a dud. and there you have it all the unlikely events that have to happen before we get the killer flu. and thats a VERY genral overview.


Ofcourse the chance this happens is very very small and probably no one would believe it could happen if it didn't happened before. But it already happened multiple times in the past. Also the human population in Asia has grown a lot since then. There's more livestock and the people practically live with the animals.
I'm not worried about it, but saying it won't happen again is like saying the Earth will never get hit by a big asteroid again.


yeah i know it happened with sars it happened with a few other flu's that i cant exactly recall right now but the thing is there is nothing we can do to prevent it. killing 100 000 chickens cause one had the flu isnt gonna do much, the thing with bacteria is that they are sneaky little buggers and they will always find a way to survive. heck if they can take on our immune system then we are a peice of cake... most of the time . but yeah its interesting to note, with major flu's like the flu in 1918, that it wasnt the flu itself that killed people it was cytokine storms. cytokines are (i donno if you call them chemicals or hormones or what) but yeah they are made by the immune system for the purposes of organizing an immune response. ah the famous cytokine is called interlukin 2, thats the one that causes flu like symptoms, that one truly is a bitch.

alas my point is not to be afraid cause there isnt much we can do to stop it, but what we can do is prepare for it, and that involves research and all that jazz. but yeah dotn fear something you can change.
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#266598
Topic
Avian Flu
Time
you know nanner is pretty accurate on this one. the big fear is that the virus will mutate into a human virus then away we go, cause no one will have any natural resistance to it. now the chances of it mutating are very small, and thats why nanner is right. literally what needs to happen is for two virus's to infect the same cell. one avian flu, the other some human airborn virus. so they infect the same cell at the same time. then by shear luck there RNA gets mixed up. and the part of the RNA in the human strain that involves infecting people gets mixed in with the avian flu genome. after all that happens, the few viruses that get this combination much survive to get into another cell(once again very hard, there is a reason why viruses have to make 10000 of themselves after each replication cycle.) once it infect the new cell it needs to successfully replicate itself, the new RNA combination might nto be complete and the virus could be a dud. and there you have it all the unlikely events that have to happen before we get the killer flu. and thats a VERY genral overview.
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#262180
Topic
My First YAGE
Time
man i just dont know how this happened, the site went trolless for 2 years, what did jay do differently in the past year, is beyond me.

Obi the truth is that having lots of moderation and tons of rules in place, will not make a very good online community. With too many rules and strict enforcing them, people dont feel at home. they feel like they are always being watched. with this site, it takes ALOT to get banned, or at least it did. i beleive jimbo was the first person to be banned and he reached like 3000 posts, and was around for about 6 months of complaining before he was booted. so i donno how you can say OT isnt a community, its more of a community then probably 90% of other forums out there.

p.s. i dont take nanner seriously, if i did then i would be sending pm's to the mods, but to date i havent.
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#262027
Topic
My First YAGE
Time
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Man, are you kidding me?! I don't even know what the hell to think about this. On the one hand, I think that Obi has been one of the best posters in the Star Wars forum for the past several months, whatever you think of the current state of that forum. But I always enjoy reading his posts, and I think many of you were totally out of line for giving him such a hard time in the Pearl Harbor thread. Guy expresses a viewpoint and people act like a bunch of idiots (and not in the fun and happy way that I'm used to). But I really don't want to see him leave.

On the other hand, I really wish he hadn't made this "YAGE" thread. Not only does it draw more ridicule, I really don't agree with it. It seems an uncharacteristic move for him, and I think that it's completely sad to throw away several months of community just because of one bad experience in a thread.

EDIT: And Shim. If I recall, Sean posted a similar thread recently, and I would definitely consider him one from the "good ol' days."


gaffer ol buddy you misinterpret me. i was refering to the fact that people on this forum are driving away people, good people, and for what a few jokes. that never happened in the good old days. espeically people like Obi who seems like a good poster.

p.s. the good old days were way way back when i was still around 2000 posts. before ep3 came out, pretty much. so like 2003, 2004 that was before seans time too i beleive. i am refering to the times when it was me, bossk, dayv, gundark, luke, rebel, (warbler may have been around) trooper, and so on.
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#261788
Topic
Favorite Character
Time
Originally posted by: LeoneNut
Chewie without a doubt


CHEWIE DIED

In TRUE Starwars fashion, a moon fell on him.

favorite character from the PT, definatly palpatine, if you read the books, man that guy is a beast, and they way he managed to take over the republic.

favorite overall character was jacen Solo but they are killing his character now, so ill have to go with Anakin Solo, who they already killed

favorite character from the OT, i would have to say luke.

favorite character from the NJO Nom Anor, he jsut needs to get a mention, this guy almost did what pali did with out the use of the force.
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#261395
Topic
BSG
Time
yeah last weeks ep was rather dry, it seems like they are just trying to fill time though. I think the next big story line will be finding an earth out post but they cant just jump from NC to hey there is an earth out post, it takes them time to travel through space, and i think that RM is trying to portray that long time with these filler, selfcontained episodes. know what i mean.
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#260171
Topic
About the cave on Dagobah...
Time
Originally posted by: Commander Courage
I saw a thread on TF.N boards about this once, and this quote remains the most ridiculous question I've ever seen on a message board:

"How did Yoda know to put the robotic Darth Vader with Luke's face in the cave?"

It amazes me how people with these kinds of questions join message boards for obsessive fans.


hahahaha thats awesome
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#259860
Topic
Legacy Of The Force - book series
Time
here this is what you do fang, read star by star, from that point on you should get into the series pretty good.

as for legacy, yeah it is kinda annoying, you would think there might be rogue vong everywhere, but no mention of them at all. i want to get intot he comic series, but i dont really want to buy them and i dont know where i can borrow them, so i am kinda stuck there

to sess: yeah i just picked up tempest the other day so far its merely ok.


Spoilers
my biggest problem with tempest, is after NJO, i really got used to the next gen characters being the main ones, so all the stuff with han and leia for the most part i am finding very boring to read. the stuff with jacen/ben/luke is so interesting, as is the galactica politics game they are protraying. can some one say 'the war on terror' with corellia being the islamic states, and the galactica allience being the USA + allies. the other thing thats annoying the hell outta me, why the fuck would wedge become the corellian grand admirable. why would han want to be a damn general, and fly missions against the GA, but in the same breath assasinate his cousin. and WTF where the hell is boba fett that storyline was super interesting and now they just cut him.
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#259517
Topic
The Most Needlessly Melodramticly-titled Thread Ever
Time
Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
Originally posted by: Shimraa
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
To nanner: if you dont like it dont read the thread, or post in it. your just as bad as sean wookie and warbler, dont think i am very impressed with them right now or any of these fairwell posts.


So now I'm not allowed to post in any thread that I happen to disagree with or find foolish? Seriously Shim, quit being so anal. If everyone followed your advice, then the Off Topic section wouldn't even be here (especially the Politics thread ). Don't get all bitchy at me just because I think your girlfriend's blog thread is some of the most inane drivel currently on this little thing we call the internet. At least I'm not bitching about how evil the mods here are or any of that.

Newsflash: People tend to disagree with what other people like and don't like. Get used to it.


oh my you seriously wanna argue your point here, there is a difference between how your acting and what your stating. if your gonna post something thats constructive, post all u want, but if you gonna whine or post pics jsut cause you dont like the topic of the thread thats flaming. and thats what your doing. the politics thread, people dont agree but when they post they dont say, this is all crap, who cares about politics your guys are idiots for even talking about it, do they? stop sitting on your high horse saying you have the right to post where ever you want, and if you want to flame you have the right to flame. sure its true you do but your posts are pointless, is that what youw want? to be pointless. i honestly dont know why your being such an ass, you never were an ass before this whole other site business.



I wonder if you realize you sound like a nine year old?

you always sound like a nine year old.
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#259072
Topic
The Most Needlessly Melodramticly-titled Thread Ever
Time
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
To nanner: if you dont like it dont read the thread, or post in it. your just as bad as sean wookie and warbler, dont think i am very impressed with them right now or any of these fairwell posts.


So now I'm not allowed to post in any thread that I happen to disagree with or find foolish? Seriously Shim, quit being so anal. If everyone followed your advice, then the Off Topic section wouldn't even be here (especially the Politics thread ). Don't get all bitchy at me just because I think your girlfriend's blog thread is some of the most inane drivel currently on this little thing we call the internet. At least I'm not bitching about how evil the mods here are or any of that.

Newsflash: People tend to disagree with what other people like and don't like. Get used to it.


oh my you seriously wanna argue your point here, there is a difference between how your acting and what your stating. if your gonna post something thats constructive, post all u want, but if you gonna whine or post pics jsut cause you dont like the topic of the thread thats flaming. and thats what your doing. the politics thread, people dont agree but when they post they dont say, this is all crap, who cares about politics your guys are idiots for even talking about it, do they? stop sitting on your high horse saying you have the right to post where ever you want, and if you want to flame you have the right to flame. sure its true you do but your posts are pointless, is that what youw want? to be pointless. i honestly dont know why your being such an ass, you never were an ass before this whole other site business.
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#258988
Topic
"Black Friday" SW DVD Sales...Wow, Did Some of You...
Time
hahaha thats too funny, i think lucas is just fucking with you guys know.

hehehe, i know what ill do, i'll release the Original trilogy, for a monsterous price and make it non animophic, hehehe. and then 2 months after when i have all the sales, ill drop the price to 10 bucks just to fuck with them more hehehe


hmm maybe ill by them no for 10 bucks, hmmm actually naw, ill jsut wait for the final release in 2007.
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#258985
Topic
The Most Needlessly Melodramticly-titled Thread Ever
Time
Originally posted by: C3PX
Originally posted by: Warbler
I plead guilty to being OTcomwatcher. Neither Boon nor Sean nor anyone else connected with FE had anything to do with this, it was my idea alone. I know it was stupid. I just had some things I wanted the people at OT.com to think about. I was not trying to start a flame war. I felt if I posted as Warbler, it would do just that. I thought the best chance I had to get the people at OT.com to think about what I had to say, was to post under another name. I though if the people at OT.com had thought it was coming from another person and not a member of FE, they'd be more likely to listen. I say again I was not trying to start a flame war. I tried to say what I had to say politely and civilly as I could. I was trying to get the people at OT.com to think about what happen from another perspective. I was just trying help restore what was once a great forum. I'll have you know I feel embarrassed and humiliated about this right now. I apologize to both forums and to Sean and Boon for accidentially bringing suspicion on them. I apologize for bringing disgrace and embarrassment to FE. I promise never to do this again. I have acted stupidly and foolishly. This is my last post on this forum under any name, farewell.


Sweet! Another addition to our ridiculously large and growing quantity of farewell letters from our FE comrades. Keep em coming mates! Damn, I miss high school! Back in those days every silly little thing brought the world to a dramatic end. When you get older you realize nobody cares, nobody is going to care, and that you need to get the hell over yourself and realize there are bigger issues in the world than the elaborate soap opera that you secretly feel your life it. If there is anybody crying about warbler "moving on" for the umpteenth time, then they need to grow up too. However, I am finding this thread strangely entertaining. Oooh! Maybe Dayv will come back under the guise of another name, or better yet, as himself and yell at us some more then say goodbye again! Now that would make my week a better one, to be sure. One can only dream.

P.S. You FE guys know that if you were to want to come back, most of us would more than welcome you as long as you don't keep bringing up this stupid nonsense. I kind of get the impression that some of you don't find it so easy to just let this place go, and fair enough, some of you have been here a long time. If you can leave the past behind you, and if you come back without making a big show of it. There is no reason you should not be accepted back in.

Oh yeah, and I have always thought Shimi was cool because he actually reads. I like hearing him talk about books. Even if he only reads tripe like Harry Potter and EU Star Wars novels. It is still and admirable trait in any human. Far better than always staring at a glowing box in the corner of the room all day long as so many do. If he decides to start posting here again I wont complain.


thanks bud, yeah i do post here still i never left. there just isnt too much to talk about right now. and i do read alot more then just HP and EU. i was a big lotr fan, read lots of dan brown, and so on. no one ever wants to talk about it so i dont post.


To nanner: if you dont like it dont read the thread, or post in it. your just as bad as sean wookie and warbler, dont think i am very impressed with them right now or any of these fairwell posts.