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#1536966
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Mando EP4: Return to Mandalore 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

Here is a clip of something I’ve been working on to do with Paz’s death.

I always felt that Paz should have been killed by the Mando troopers, firstly to make them seem like a threat and secondly to leave the Praetorian Guards for Mando. Instead Paz swaps the Mando troopers away like battle droids.

I could have been a really easy edit, but unfortunately the way the series was cut, there were no decent shots of the Mando troopers to edit into the sequence. I had to resort to doing a cut away to Bo. Anyway, let me know what you think. The audio will be refined, its more a proof of concept clip. I’m not convinced it’s quite good enough.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15RnLf-njysYvrLasTe0nRQi4nw624iEj

I think it works, certainly to the point that someone who hadn’t watched the original episode wouldn’t notice there had been any change made (once the audio is refined as you say)

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#1536965
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Mando EP4: Return to Mandalore 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

A couple of little clips to share.
This one is how I deal with removing almost all of the Foundling episode (grogu training and child rescue sequences)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1meg8uQo7-mwigNMhShEsiouQPs9J0Ee0

And this is how I removed the Mandalore garden sanctuary scene which destroys the pacing and sense of danger in the finale.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-ZJRL6WyqdBJ7E-Cs5O-yQ3qYxrZzVH7

Both clips work really well Smudger, great work!

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#1534503
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Mando EP4: Return to Mandalore 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

STF78 said:

smudger9 said:

szopman said:

In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?

Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.

Are you able to give us any more info on the potential changes to episodes two and three?

Episode 2 is a bit of an issue because it now has some important story elements missing.

  1. Carson Teva’s interactions with Mando/Nevarro.
  2. The cloning facility on Nevarro.
  3. Elspeth Morgan and the Beskar spear.

These elements were cut to stick to a reasonable runtime and allow Luke’s appearance to be the finale. However, these elements have become very important.

My current thinking is to put these elements back into episode 2 and have the movie end on a cliffhanger with Gideon’s capture of Grogu. (Like ESB).

The rescue can then be the opening of Episode 3 and the sudden decision to capture Pershing can be explained in the opening crawl. I will then cut Boba’s story down to a bare minimum and have episode three to focus on Mando and Grogu.
Grogu’s training scenes will be intercut with Mando’s journey. Mando will not travel to meet Grogu, Grogu will make his decision and then head off to find Mando.

The main negative is that Luke’s first appearance begs to be the finale of a movie, not the end of the opening act, but this would allow all the important story beats to be included.

Definitely sounds like a good way forward but how would you deal with Luke presenting Grogu with the choice of taking the beskar armour without Mando having travelled to meet him?

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#1534441
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Mando EP4: Return to Mandalore 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

szopman said:

In the end, you’re going to move the Luke Skywalker stuff to this film ? Or you re gonna leave it as a part of Ep III?

Leaving it in episode 3. I’m currently mulling over a radial change to EPs 2 and 3 to take out more Boba stuff and shuffle things around.

Are you able to give us any more info on the potential changes to episodes two and three?

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#1529303
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

STF78 said:

smudger9 said:

STF78 said:

Excellent edit of an excellent show. It flows really well and the edits are largely seemless. The only feedback I could give beyond the praise is that I think I caught a flash frame around the 40 min 37 secs mark- an image of a console screen flashes for a second in between the shots of the security police on the transport and the ship flying over Aldani

Ahh yes. Well spotted. Looks like a rogue 1080 frame left in when I was converting to 4K. I’ll clip that out and re-upload.

Did you ever get a chance to re-upload a version with the rogue frame removed? Just wanted to get a final version for my permanent, backed up collection of your edits? Thanks

Yes. The 1080 and 4K mkv files have both been updated.

Great, thank you

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#1529302
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Andor EP2: The Reckoning 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

I’ve managed to make major inroads into this edit this week.
I have completed the second cut, built the 5.1 Soundmix and done a third scan of the transition points.
It weighs in at 2h57, which is curiously exactly the same length as Episode 1. I would have liked it slightly shorter, but the material is just so good I didn’t want to make excessive cuts and lose the story beats.
All that is left are 8 audio transitions that need a little work including one that needs re-scoring.
It is shaping up really nicely.
Here is the list of alterations.

Broad Changes

Edited to introduce a time skip between this and the previous movie edit.
Andor is captured off screen during the time skip to eliminate the Niamos scenes. His capture is explained in the opening text.
The remaining elements of Episode 7 have been used as the opening scenes to set the hunt for Andor as the driver of the first act.
Syril’s Coruscant scenes that were cut from the previous edit are utilised but his mother is removed. His scenes at the Bureau of Standards are used as a juxtaposition to Andor’s scenes in prison - this makes far more sense than using Mon Mothma, which is how Episode 8 was cut.
Vel now leaves Coruscant after she is ordered to find Andor and doesn’t return. Her unnecessary connection to Mon Mothma is removed.
Linus Mosk is cut completely. This gives Syril’s character more strength and autonomy. Syril’s presence on Ferrix is largely cut. He only appears when he rescues Dedra.
Andor’s return to Ferrix from Episode 7 is utilised for two dream flashback sequences whilst he’s on Narkina-5. Using these scenes chronologocally impacted on the pacing and structure of the two movies, so they had to be removed. They are, however, essential for Andor and Marrva’s character arcs and the ISB’s investigations.
Mon Mothma’s scenes are largely cut. Only the basic plot regarding her finances and sacrifice of her daughter remains.

Detailed Changes
Opening sequence and text to match Episode 1
Syril’s arrival on Coruscant from EP4 is intercut with Kleya meeting with Vel from EP7 and Dedra briefing Yularen and the ISB from EP8.
Syril arrives at the appartment but his mother is cut. We then see him in his room looking at the hologram of Andor.

Episode 8
Sharp cut to Andor arriving on Narkina. The arrival sequence is edited to be continuous.
Cut to Syril arriving for his first day at the Bureau of Standards from EP7.
Cut to Andor in his prison uniform being delivered to his unit. Sequence is shortened to remove the uneccessary interplay between the guards about staffing levels.
Sprint segmnent on the factory floor is cut.
Cut from Andor’s face as he realises what he’s got to do during his sentence, to Syril at his Bureau work station from EP7.
Cut to Andor on the brdge at the end of the shift. The prison dormitory orientation sequence plays out as one scene with the Mon Mothma scenes cut, and placed later in the edit.
We cut from Andor reflecting in the darkness of his pod to the first flashback scene from EP7 on Ferrix where Andor returns for Maarva.
Cut to Andor in the dark pod and the 30 shift timeskip.
Cut to Syril at the Bureau as the ISB arrive to take him in for questioning.
Hard cut straight to Syril in the ISB interrogation room as Dedra arrives.
Cut to the prison as a normal shift unfolds.
Cut to Syril’s second interrogation scene.
Present time Ferrix scenes of Brasso and Bix with Maarva and the watching Vel and Sinta. Vel and Sinta heavily edited to remove reference to Vel leaving Sinta on her own.
Ferrix and Luthen/Cleya scenes play out in sequence but with the scene of Vel leaving Ferrix being cut.
Cut to nightime prison scene where the prisoner is about to commit suicide but add in shot of Andor sleeping. Then cut to the second Ferrix Flashback scene where Maarva tells Andor she is staying on Ferrix. The Flashbacks of young Andor v the Clones are removed to avoid having a flashback within a flashback. Cut Maarva “That’s just love… nothing you can do about that” - those lines never sat well with me. References to Andor’s sister are cut.
Cut back to a reversed, trimmed shot of the prison dormitory and then Andor sleeping as the fellow prisoner jumps to his death.
Cut back to Ferrix scene where Bix is spotted - “Get Heeeeeer” is cut.
Cut to Luthen and Saw. Part of Saw’s rant is removed.
Cut to Bix’s capture and meeting with Dedra.

Episode 9
First prison scene moved up to provide a spacer between the Bix/Dedra scene at the end of the last episdoe and start of this episode.
The torture scenes have been removed. I’ve gone with the ANH tactic with the torture being implied rather than shown. It also helped with the pacing. We see the suggestion of the torture, the results of it and the information gained from it.
Mon Mothma/Vel scenes cut.
Syril’s mother is cut.
2 of the 3 Mon Mothma appartment gathering scenes from Ep8 are moved to here and intercut with the evening/night prison scenes. The middle one is cut. They are introduced after her scene in the Senate.
The Syril/Dedra scene is edited to make Syril appear less creepy. “Have you been waiting out here…… Yes”, “Being in your presence” and “I sense it, I know it” have been cut.
Removed the prison doctor “He’s had a massive stroke” - I dont like “earthy” language in my Star Wars!
Moved the last ISB briefing scene to the end to provide a spacer scene between the prison scene at the end of this episode and the start of the next.

Episode 10
Cut Ulaf’s body being taken through the factory floor.
Cut Mon Mothma “I’d feel far more comfotable paying you for your trouble” - sounds like something out of a west end musical!
Cut first 2 clips of Andor cutting the pipe - we have already seen him working on that pipe but it looks untouched.
Trim the sequence of the new prisoner being prepped for dropping onto the floor - speeds up the sequenece.
Trimmed the breakout sequence. The floor is activated a lot earlier, as it should have been.
Cut the shot of water dripping through the ceiling of another floor.
Cut Kino hesitating and not knowing what to say over the tannoy - I wanted him to appear strong until the point where he admits he can’t swim. A much better character arc.
Trimmed Lonni’s journey in the lift.
Cut references to Lonni’s child.

Episode 11
Cut Andor and Melshi on the cliff.
Cut Andor and Melshi’s capture and escape with the aliens - poorly executed scenes. Having their escape happen off screen works just as well.
Cut Vel and Kleya scene.
Cut Vel and Mon Mothma scene.
Cut Brasso - B2 scene.
Cut scene where Bix is asked about Anto Kreeger.
Cut Scene where Linus contacts Syril.
Keep scene of Syril emptying his safe but cut his mother leaving the apartment.
Cut Melchi from the Niamos scene - implies that Melchi and Andor already agreed to separate before this point.
Move the Fondor battle scene to the end to provide a better transition into the next episode.

Episode 12
Cut first scene of Wilmon making the bomb.
Edit Vel/Cinta scene to remove references to Vel coming back - she has been there the whole time.
Edit scene when Andor touches his father’s brick so that the flashback is of him being killed by the Clone Troopers - provides a more powerful resolution to the story.
Cut Luthen speeder sequence.
Cut all scenes involving Linus and Cyril. Cyril’s presence on Ferrix is unknown until the point where he rescues Deedra.
Trim the funeral band procession to speed up the pacing.
Cut the extended pause during Maarva’s hologram speech.
Cut Bix refusing to leave with Andor.

Hey Smudger, will you be loosing the discussion of how they were going to torture Bix- the story about the screams of another species being decimated. That was really dark and bold for a Star Wars show, so I thought it was important to display the tone of the aeries

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#1529130
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

STF78 said:

Excellent edit of an excellent show. It flows really well and the edits are largely seemless. The only feedback I could give beyond the praise is that I think I caught a flash frame around the 40 min 37 secs mark- an image of a console screen flashes for a second in between the shots of the security police on the transport and the ship flying over Aldani

Ahh yes. Well spotted. Looks like a rogue 1080 frame left in when I was converting to 4K. I’ll clip that out and re-upload.

Did you ever get a chance to re-upload a version with the rogue frame removed? Just wanted to get a final version for my permanent, backed up collection of your edits? Thanks

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#1529129
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Mando EP4: Return to Mandalore 4K [RELEASED]
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I think the Pershing storyline could be used to space out the Grogu training/rejoining Mando arc in a Boba Fett free edit that bridges season two with the main body of season three, kind of a part 2.5. So basically the Mando centric parts of the book of Boba Fett combined with the early episodes of season three, albeit with some restructuring. I’m going to die on the hill of wishing for a way to watch the Mando saga free from the pollution of the Book of Boba Fett drivel lol

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#1527756
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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED]
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After watching todays episode it occurred to me that it might be better moving all the Mando/Grogu storyline specific content from TBOBF out of your edit and combining them with the first two episodes of this new season to make a third chapter in your Mandalorian story. That way the Boba Fett story could be its own thing (with a brief supporting appearance from Djarin) and the forthcoming six new Mandalorian episodes could form a chapter four. Just a thought.

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#1523866
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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Excellent edit of an excellent show. It flows really well and the edits are largely seemless. The only feedback I could give beyond the praise is that I think I caught a flash frame around the 40 min 37 secs mark- an image of a console screen flashes for a second in between the shots of the security police on the transport and the ship flying over Aldani

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#1523585
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Andor EP1: Spark of Rebellion 4K [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

All done and dusted.
Have to say its a really satisfying edit. Having worked solidly on a project for 6months or so I often find the final watch-through slightly underwhelming. This edit was totally different. Such a fun watch.

Available formats are:
1080 MP4 12.7GB - Streamable and Downloadable
4K MKV [H.264] 3.1GB

PM for details.

So happy to hear you got this finished. Could I have a link please?

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#1497845
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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED]
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smudger9 said:

Finally…… the edit is completed and available in 1080. If you want a Blu-ray version then I will render that this coming week.

Apologies for the time this edit had taken. Life is pretty busy at the moment meaning that editing time is limited. I needed a block of time to get this over the line, which I finally got this weekend.

I’ve massively reduced the flashback scenes and just left 3 short sequences in that show Boba escaping the sarlacc, losing his armour, a snapshot of him at the Tusken camp, the Pike negotiation and the Tusken Massacre. Some of the other flashback sequences will be added into Mando episodes 1 and 2.

I’ve also removed the Krrsantan infiltration of the palace to help speed up the story, remove another example of Boba appearing weak and remove more of the mods.

A full, updated list of the changes is in the original post.

In addition I’ve used a new logo that looks better in the opening crawl.

PM if you want a link to the completed edit.

Fantastic news, it sounds like a great list of additional changes. You shouldn’t be apologising though- you’re doing us all a great favour in putting this together and being so willing to share. Can’t wait to watch!

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#1481625
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Mando EP3: A New Path (A Book of Boba Fett Edit) [RELEASED]
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You’ve done a great job restructuring the show and making the Mando and Boba storylines interweave. Overall I enjoyed it and I know there are still a few bits & pieces you’re still working on, but it does feel a little like there is too much packed in. The main issue in that respect is probably the flashbacks, so the dilemma is whether to remove them (except the initial sarlacc escape) and any subsequent references to who killed the Tuscans. My preference would be their removal, along with a few of the present day scenes such as the emotional rancor stuff with Danny Trejo, perhaps trim Luke/Grogu with the floating frogs and the scenes in the hangar when he gets the Naboo fighter (like the rodent thing they chase & shoot). I think that would allow for a tighter viewing experience. Beyond that, there seemed to be a strange shot of Mando’s helmet just before the scene cuts to Luke & Grogu in the Jedi Temple that get out of place, and the wipe transition after the bombing felt a little quick. Overall, for the quality of what you had to work with, you’ve excelled yet again!

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#1476498
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The Final Order - A no Leia/Rey Nobody TROS edit by Spence (Completed)
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SpenceEdit said:

BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Rey cannot, at every turn, be assisted by other Star Wars characters. She defeats Kylo because Leia intervened. She defeats Palpatine because the spirits of the past Jedi intervened. She’s the hero. She needs to do it herself.

I find this absolutely hilarious given how one of the most common complaints haters never shut up about is Rey being too competent.

I mean, I feel like that’s exactly why JJ and Company did that exact thing in The Rise of Backpedaling: Fanboys got upset about her being too OP and not having any sort of familial connections to explain her “power levels”. Then BOOM! She’s a Palpatine and The Ghosts of Jedi Past help her in the end.

This is exactly the kind of thing I’m trying to remedy.

I’ve had some absolutely fantastic feedback from the workprint, and I’m making some major changes based on the ideas that were shared. It’s really starting to come together.

Fantastic news, can’t wait to see it!