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#1343901
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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Chase Adams said:

Z6PO said:

Is the 2020 version stretched, or the 2011 version squished?

Judging by what Ady has provided, I would probably say that 2020 is stretched… Who knows? I’m welcome for anyone to correct me if I’m wrong!

I’m fairly certain the 2020 version is stretched. I haven’t given it the most thorough comparison by any means, but I chucked on a couple different releases and the image dynamics of the 2011 set seem consistent with earlier releases in terms of “stretching” (or lack-thereof), compared to the 2020 4K disc I put on which definitely seems to have a slight pull to the objects in the frame.

I also could be wrong and am happy to be corrected, but judging by some of the other poor presentations with this release a stretched image doesn’t seem too far fetched to consider.

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#1343858
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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adywan said:

Yes, i can confirm that the 2020 version of ESB is not only more cropped than the 2011 version, but also stretched horizontally, causing very heavy cropping to the sides of the frame. These screenshots are taken directly from the blu-rays:

https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/2468
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/2469
https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/2470

What possible reason could there be to justify not only increased cropping of the image, but stretching?

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#1343853
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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oojason said:

No… who said jokes are not allowed? Of course they are - yet we both know that is not what you were saying in your post.

but this is a bit of an over-reaction to being told to simply knock it off over ‘a joke’ (as you now claim), yes?
 

I was reacting to the tone of your comment, which came off as hostile - if I was wrong to perceive it in that way then sure, that’s on me. But in regards to “we both know that is not what you were saying in your post,” I’d argue you swearing and being passive aggressive is far from “told to simply knock it off over a ‘joke,’” in which case I’d call my response apt. Unless you’re implying I completely misread the intended tone of your post, but you didn’t misread the intended tone of mine? Either way I’ll be sure to chuck an emoji in next time to clear it up.

And for the record yes, it was a joke.

But I won’t say anything more on the matter as it’s not the subject of the thread.

I’m sorry if my comments seemed serious and offended anyone, they were not intended to do so.

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#1343739
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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oojason said:

Knock it off mate (the bold part). People who want to ‘defend’ the film - or just talk about what they enjoyed etc about it certainly can on here - so enough of the _“without being drunk of their mind” shite.

I was being flippant and not directing it towards anybody specific. Somewhat strange that light jabs at most Star Wars content in other threads goes unnoticed and unstopped but gets immidiately smacked down in a ST thread over a silly exaggerated remark. If I had a dollar for every snarky comment directed my way on here for liking the prequels I’d be rich. I believe this is the opinions thread, not the “praise TROS thread,” unless I’m mistaken?

People like different things - you don’t have to be uncivil about people who enjoy stuff… that you seemingly can’t comprehend.
 

Again, I was being flippant and it wasn’t meant as an attack. I don’t care if someone likes the movie, I just find it so atrocious that I cannot believe there’s any merit to be found within it. Is that better?

If jokes aren’t allowed I’ll be happy to refrain from making one again and apologise if it was taken to be overly aggressive, as that was not my intention.

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#1343364
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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Shopping Maul said:

TROS is the exception for me. I think it’s better than ROTJ - indeed for me it’s what I wish ROTJ had been.

Outside of the fact that the film blatantly craps on the first 6 films, TROS isn’t even consistent with the other two films in its own trilogy. Other than “pew pew lasers woohoo!” I don’t get what there is to latch onto and I’ve seen every argument for the film imaginable. I get someone liking it in a dumb turn-your-brain-off way, but even if you take away the Star Wars brand name it’s just a really poorly constructed film in its own right.

But I mean you’re not gonna change my mind and I’m not gonna change yours, so you do you, more power to you. If you love the film I’m certainly not going to slap your wrist and tell you that’s not allowed. I’ll definitely never understand it though.

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#1343309
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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idir_hh said:

When I think of Rey’s character, what come to mind is an A-sexual Xbox avatar.

That’s an insult to Xbox avatars.

RogueLeader said:

You know, it is kind of surprising that they went into this trilogy knowing the main character would be female, but they didn’t seem to even consider hiring a female writer. I mean, clearly there were female cooks in the kitchen early on, like Kennedy and Hart. And I’m not saying men can’t write women characters, but I feel like Rey might’ve lacked something that a female writer really could’ve provided for her.

Rey is far from the biggest issue with Disney’s films. Even if she were expertly written the trilogy would still be hot trash from a story perspective.

I despise TFA and TLJ but can fully understand how someone may enjoy those films… I guess. I absolutely cannot fathom how anyone could defend TROS without being drunk out of their mind; it’s the cinematic equivalent of a computer generated algorithm shorting out while the Star Wars theme plays in the background and a 5 year old smashes 500 million dollar action figures against the computer terminal. It is probably the single most perfect example of a corporate-controlled dumpster fire we’ll ever see.

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#1316326
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Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects
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Darth Lucas said:

Thatstinkyguy said:

Found a site that sells the Despecialized Trilogy on the site and eBay. They brag about being “the real deal” too.

https://www.swdespecialized.com/product/sw-despecialized-original-trilogy-blu-ray-set-documentaries

They’re getting pretty ballsy now. Selling from their own dedicated website claiming to be some sort of official retailer? I guess they win though because I have no idea how to fight that.

$74.99 for some made at home burnt BD’s, and pretending to be the “official” source of the Despecialised editions to boot.

Unbelievable.

EDIT: Haha, I missed the credit to the creator segment. “Thanks Harmy for making these so we can illegally sell them for our own profit xoxoxo”.

I don’t know if that or the “I’m only charging what the material costs” line is better. Has anyone here ever spent $75 making a custom DVD or BD set for a fan edit or preservation? I sure as hell haven’t.

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#1315339
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Pickle2503's Attack of the Clones Theatrical Preservation(ish) (Released)
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Additionally I ask if we have the Theatrical DTS track for attack of the clones because if so, the previous paragraph will be irrelevant aas I can just mux that into the video file and I won’t need to export anything new from premiere.

Unfortunately as far as I’m aware we don’t.

How Attack of the Clones is the only film to not have an actual theatrical copy that isn’t a crappy bootleg in 2019 astounds me. Even the aforementioned DTS track would be something.

After you get the 5.1 sorted I’d love to give it a watch though, not many theatrical preservations of AOTC have been attempted.

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#1312023
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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That’s the word to describe the movie. “Not explained”.

Bingo.

Honestly as much as I hate to say it, I’m just done with new Star Wars all together after this. I hated TFA and TLJ but still spent years arguing about the problems with them because while 99.99% of me was done with Disney Star Wars, there was still that 00.01% of me that had hope things would change. I’m so passionate about Star Wars and its story because Star Wars means so much to me, so I guess arguing and debating TFA and TLJ gave me a reason to still care about the franchise; because maybe I’d “win” and things would get better if I just persisted.

After TROS I can’t even work up the energy to argue with people anymore, I just don’t care. I don’t even care enough to keep watching The Mandalorian; I’m finally 100% apathetic and disinterested in anything this zombie franchise has to offer anymore, they’ve lost all good will and I’ll never be giving them another cent.

They somehow found a way to torpedo cinema’s biggest franchise in just four years. If it wasn’t so tragic it’d be painfully impressive.

I don’t even think I’m mad about it, I just… Feel nothing. It’s too much energy to keep following something that makes me angry to even think about. I’m sick of hating Star Wars, so I’ll just keep George’s Saga of I - VI close and my library of Old EU books stocked, that’s all I need.

If people enjoy whatever the hell this Frankenstein of a franchise has turned into then cool, more power to you. But I can’t do this crap anymore, it’s not worth it.

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#1311961
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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DuracellEnergizer said:

The point isn’t that the OOT can’t be obtained; it’s that it’s been actively suppressed and forced into obscurity, which any cinephile should consider obscene.

Yep I agree, but it’s not 2005 and anyone who googles the theatrical versions can find them in a heartbeat.

At this point it’s beating a dead horse. They’re never getting released officially, so George wins, but you also have easy access to them unofficially, so you win too.

Enough is enough, bitching about it every time George Lucas comes up in discussion is getting pathetic and contributes nothing to the conversation.

Regardless this isn’t a thread for the special editions, it’s for TROS.

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#1311919
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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As there remains no proper restoration and release of the OOT, no, I’m not.

It’s 2019. There’s a thousand different options to watch the original version now, it’s not a big deal.

theprequelsrule said:

So let’s hear it already! Somebody give me a synopsis of this film?

Return of the Jedi, but bad. There ya go.

In all seriousness:

  • Palpatine is back and it’s not explained how.

  • Kylo goes to find him and it’s not explained why he was looking for him, or how he knows he’s alive.

  • Snoke was a clone made by Palpatine. Not explained how or why, or anything more said on the matter.

  • Palpatine somehow has a whole fleet of Star Destroyers with Death Star guns on them. Not explained how.

  • Rey is a Palpatine, her Dad was Palpatine’s son (not explained how), so Rey is his granddaughter.

  • Rey and Kylo can both save people from death and bring them back to life. Not explained how.

  • Luke retconned from being a sad old suicidal man to “secretly” keeping tabs on Palpatine.

  • Luke and Leia retconned to “know” Rey was a Palpatine the entire time.

  • Leia dies, horrifically forced and poorly handled.

  • Han is in it as a “memory” (???). Makes no sense whatsoever, but then neither does anything in this stupid movie.

  • Palpatine shoots lightning at Rey, who deflects it back to Palpatine (Palpatine apparently decides that simply not shooting lightning anymore makes too much sense), then dies.

  • Ben almost dies. Then he comes back. Then he dies. But wait no not actually. Then he dies (for real this time).

  • Rey steals the Skywalker name.

  • Force ghost Luke and Leia. Both look horrific and Leia is clearly CGI. Because nothing shouts “respect” like CGI’ing the ghost of a dead actress into your film for cheap nostalgia brownie points.

Those are the main points. I could write an essay on everything that happens in this ridiculous movie but it’s not worth my time.

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#1311903
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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Saw it last night. Probably the single most offensive piece of garbage that’s ever had the Star Wars name slapped on it.

Renders the PT pointless, the OT pointless, and even TFA and TLJ pointless. Who the hell was this movie made for? Because I do not see how this film could please any single subset of Star Wars fans.

I hope everyone who ragged on George Lucas relentlessly for decades is happy, because this is what happens when a committee of execs frothing over boardroom market research concludes one of cinema’s most important stories. What a joke.

The Saga ended with Return of the Jedi, this is an abomination. Disney Wars is not Star Wars and Rey is not a Skywalker.

No wonder George wasn’t at the premiere, he was probably at home drinking himself stupid.

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#1306032
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Broom Kid said:

These are basically just empty buzzwords.

Nope, not really. And repeating the “but what 'bout the marketing” argument for the prequels is just tiresome at this point. If George only cared about merchandising money he would have done what Disney is doing with the ‘sequels.’

As far as creative bankruptcy goes, I’d call basing an entire trilogy on nostalgia without an actual story plan as pretty creatively bankrupt. This trilogy isn’t about anything and it contributes nothing to the story told in Episodes I - VI. It’s just a bunch of random stuff about random people set in the Star Wars universe. If the Skywalker Saga were a video game then the ST would be a $1.99 skin pack dlc.

These films are not made by Lucas, approved by Lucas, or even have a hair of Lucas’ involvement, so it can’t be an ending to his story.
Him being on set for a day as a courtesy visit doesn’t count as a contribution; if he had any role in the new films he’d be credited beyond just a “based on a story by…” credit.

Trevorrow has a bigger credit than Lucas on TROS and he left before the cameras started rolling.

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#1306008
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DuracellEnergizer said:

I continue to be amused by you PT & ST fanboys. You’re both so quick to notice the speck in the other’s trilogy while failing to notice the beam in your own.

Lol, righto.

All three trilogies have their issues but the ST is the only one creatively bankrupt, made by committee and without the involvement of the series’ creator. If J.K. Rowling bought the Tolkien estate and wrote a Lord of the Rings sequel she’d be well within her right to, but nobody would regard it as such, just as that Cursed Child nonsense was rejected by the Harry Potter fanbase. The ST only gets a pass from some because of the ungodly amount of money and marketing pumped into the thing by one of the biggest film corporations in the world; but it’s really no different at all. Literal corporate fan fiction, and not even good fan fiction.

For all the prequel trilogy’s faults it’s not creatively bankrupt, it wasn’t made by committee and most importantly it had direct involvement from the series’ creator. How anybody could think “The Rise of Skywalker” is the conclusion to George Lucas’ story is beyond me.

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#1306004
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Best Viewing Order for Fans and First Timers: &quot;THE FLASHBACK&quot; Order
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fluffyburger said:

What do you guys think? Would you watch this order?

I respect the time and thought put into this, but I think chronological is the way to go. It’s the way the story was intended to unfold and it’s been fine for everyone I’ve introduced the saga to. All these different “viewing orders” do nothing but confuse newcomers and any newcomer isn’t going to be as pedantic about the films as we are. Plus let’s be real, even most people who haven’t seen Star Wars know about the Vader twist in ESB, so it’s not exactly a surprise anymore.

So Episode I - VI for me.

That business with the corporate fan fiction doesn’t, doesn’t count.

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#1305637
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Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Anakin WAS redeemed as an old man, therefore, he should be an old looking force ghost…for lack of a better way of putting it.

Every time these discussions come up the most simple answer is always ignored; Hayden was put in because the audience can actually identify with Hayden’s Anakin. Shaw’s Anakin is never once seen at any point until the final minutes of Return of the Jedi and Hayden’s Anakin has two entire movies and almost five hours of screen time dedicated to him. If you put Return of the Jedi in the context of the six film saga then Shaw’s Anakin is visually out of place, it’s really that simple.

There are thematic arguments in defense of both sides but the simplest answer is just audience familiarity. I personally find the hate on Hayden’s Ghost Anakin vs. the Palpatine recast extremely hypocritical and screams of anger filled double standards; trying to rationalize the double standard just digs the hole deeper.

I personally prefer Hayden’s Ghost Anakin even though I grew up with Shaw’s Ghost Anakin, but as with every SE/Theatrical debate I think both sides would be perfectly happy if both versions of the films were freely available to the public, which should be the case anyway.

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#1305310
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
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Cthulhunicron said:

If the new movies don’t do anything original, it’s honestly just difficult for me to feel any interest in them. The ST movies are fairly competent so far, but to me they’re merely “okay.” If they put out episode 10 and it’s new rebels vs new empire, and they have to blow up an even bigger Death Star, I really don’t know how to get excited about that.

Pretty much the reason I gave up on DisWars, and I truly don’t understand how anybody can get invested in a worse version of the original trilogy, but whatever.

Back when Solo was about to hit theaters, and during, I was on the box office thread stating that it’d flop and that it is currently flopping, but I had a half dozen users calling me “wrong” and that the film was “going strong” and that it was “too early” to call that. Those comments aged like milk.

I think TROS will make money but I honestly don’t know if it’ll clear a billion. I don’t think a lot of DisWars fans realize how apathetic people have become to the brand. I’ve heard every excuse in the book but numbers don’t lie, and the brand is making less than it ever has. I would’ve said it was impossible a few years ago, but a few years ago if you’d told someone a live action Star Wars movie would lose hundreds of millions at the box office they’d laugh in your face, and yet here we are. The brand has been utterly run into the ground.

I’m sure opening weekend will be strong when all the fans rush out to see it, but the second week will be the most telling. I could very well be proven wrong and I’ll eat my words if I am, but it’s entirely possible we’ll have another box office performance like BvS or Justice League.

Regardless, the one thing for certain is that if it doesn’t clear a billion executive heads will roll like they never have before.

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#1294788
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
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yotsuya said:

Star Wars movies have traditionally not relied on just diehard fans to make money.

How’d that go for Solo?

TROS won’t lose money but it’s not going to meet the expectations suits at the top want.

Star Wars has been on a decline in public interest for a while now. Movie sales are down. Toy sales are down. Merch sales are down. Book/comic/game sales are down. Google searches are down. Trailer views are down. Social media engagement is down. Everything is down.

Why there are still people who insist that Star Wars is doing just fine is beyond me. The IP is tanking hard, worse than it ever has before, and the numbers are reflecting that in droves.

Disney/nuLucasfilm has torpedoed the brand and if TROS underperforms it’s in serious trouble.

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#1294785
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Info Wanted: Star Wars prequels on VHS - Original theatrical versions?
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ZigZig said:

Ryan-SWI said:

As for that TPM VHS mentioned, that also isn’t the theatrical version. It’s close but it has a few minor alterations to it.

AFAIK, TPM VHS, VCD and Laserdisc contain the theatrical version, as well as early TV broadcasts (Scandinavian C+, Austrian ORF1…). What “few minor alterations” are you referring to?

By memory there’s a very slighty different shot of Darth Maul during the final duel on the pan and scan version, and on both p&s and ws there’s a few different audio cues and the subtitles don’t quite match. I’m on mobile so I can’t go digging around on OT to find the forum posts, but they’re on here.

Like I said, minor altercations, but altercations all the same. I’ve got several CAM VCD bootlegs of TPM and AOTC because they’re the only surviving true theatricals of the films. The Z edition of TPM’s CAM bootleg is still used as a reference point for this very reason.

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#1294752
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Info Wanted: Star Wars prequels on VHS - Original theatrical versions?
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The AOTC VHS is not theatrical. No official theatrical version of that film exists on home video, only in the form of CAM bootlegs.

As for that TPM VHS mentioned, that also isn’t the theatrical version. It’s close but it has a few minor alterations to it.

All of this has been extensively documented on these forums before though.