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#1401714
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Before realizing that Roundhead Rian wanted to destroy star wars, as I was watching TLJ, I always thought that big reveal was going to be that Luke abandoned Rey on Jakku, to hide/protect her. She was a padwan in his school so didn’t remember her parents (setup in TFA), Kylo was older than her, so he would remember her joining the school. When Kylo and Knights of Ren attacked the school to kill the padwans, Luke was able to gather a few children and escape, one being Rey. So when Rey was looking at the ship, she was sad that Luke left, who was basically her father (…or may her actual father…sounds like JJ Abrams hadn’t decided). But at that point, she could’ve been related to Luke, Obi-Wan, or even Leia still (since all she remembers was Luke at the school, having been adopted by the school very young). Of course, Roundhead Rian destroyed all that.

These movies were popcorn movies; nothing complicated about them. JJ Abrams had it setup to explain why Rey could use the force…

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#1401050
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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So Luke isn’t a dream but he doesn’t burn down the tree, the jedi order doesn’t need to end and yoda doesn’t even appear. He just hesitates to train Rey as part of a test. And still saves the day on crait. Similar to how Yoda didn’t fight in Empire; he trained Luke to fight.

Or maybe, after Luke saves the day, he then sees Yoda, who tells him that Rey has everything she needs going forward. Then Luke dies.

After Rey moves the boulders on crait, she no longer is tempted to the dark side. The big thing is Snoke/Palp are a dream. The other battles remain the same - First Order vs Resistance.

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#1401035
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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So, the whole Kylo/Rey drama (mostly) happens in their minds. It’s a battle of wills. A force battle. Snoke is a projection of Kylo’s fantasy, that he’s gotten everyone to believe is true. Palp represents the pull towards the dark side, and the constant invitation of Kylo to Rey to join him, is her battle against the dark side.

The battle in Snoke’s room is just a fantasy. Kylo thinks he can get Rey to join him, but she doesn’t. Kylo kills Han in the middle of movie 2 or 3, for real. But then his fight with Rey in the snow, where she beats him, wakes him up to reality that he’s not strong.

You could even have Luke be (mostly) a dream/vision for Rey. They meet in real life, in movie 3, but he his lack of wanting to get involved in the First Order battle is a test for Rey. When he says he won’t fight, she becomes attracted to the dark side and starts “force talking” to Kylo. The battle on Crait happens towards the end of movie 2, and is Luke showing Rey the power of the force. She chooses the good side. In the beginning of movie 3, there are flashbacks to Rey’s training from Luke while she trains with Leia.

Once Kylo loses to Luke in the battle, and he sees Ray choosing the good force side, Kylo travels to Exegol (for real). He thinks going to the death star will give him more power and he starts fantasizing about Palp. Kylo force pulls Rey into the fantasy and she meets Palp. Rey travels (for real) to Exegol, to face Kylo in the ocean/ship battle. This battle is interwoven with the dream fight between Kylo/Rey/Palp.

In Kylo’s force dream, he experiences the true evil of the dark side/Palp and Ray is seduced by Palp. But Leia intervenes, which causes her to die, and this intervention screws with Kylo’s control of the dream, which is when Palp seemingly kills Kylo. Then Ray almost dies too. But because he loves Rey, when she dies, this distracts Kylo in real life, as he’s fighting Rey (for real) on the ship. This is when Rey stabs him on the ship (in real life). Kylo is mortally wounded, and he redeems himself, when Han shows back up and tells him it’s ok. Kylo dies redeemed and the Resistance beats the first order.

It sounds cool. Not sure if it can be pulled off.

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#1401025
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Some spit-ball ideas I’ve not yet smoothed out…

When you look at TFA, they are running around looking for the map to Luke. Then, TLJ is the meat-potatoes of the drama between Rey/Kylo and Kylo/Luke, and Kylo/Snoke. With Abrams back for TROS, everyone is back to running around to find wayfinders.

The most fascinating aspects of the entire trilogy are Rey vs Kylo and Kylo vs Luke. My thoughts are, is it possible to make the Palpatine scenes a ‘dream sequence’ that Kylo is imagining? His lust for power and everytime he touches the vader helmet leads him to imagine Palp’s promise of ruling the galaxy? Then, Kylo “force sucks” Rey into this dream battle, so all of their fights are, essentially, a dream? The only actual fight is the ending of TJL, in Snoke’s room. So for 2 movies, you keep the focus of Rey vs Kylo battling in their minds.

Meanwhile, you somehow combine/edit the search for Luke’s map and the search for the wayfinders as being the same, but longer, search. So, Rey starts off force-sensitive. She meets Kylo and then they battle in dream sequences, including Palp. Luke’s map is finally found, Rey meets Luke (at end of 2nd movie, or beginning of 3rd). The story ends with the First order being fought by the Resistance on multiple fronts, at Exegol (minus Palp references) and at the Starkiller Base (reducing death-star parallels).

You could use the opening of TLJ as the intro to the whole story (and Poe). It sets up the first order vs Resistance arc, and save Poe’s contact with Lor San Tekka for the middle of the sequels. You could also save Han’s death til the end of the 2nd movie, maybe.

Lots could be deleted. This might only be 2 movies instead of 3. Some of my ideas I haven’t thought all the way through and may not be possible. I’m still working out the details and will post a coherent storyline later. Maybe this will help someone else figure it out…