RobotB9

Dave. said:

RobotB9 said:

When I first saw the 2012 Blu ray, I thought to myself, “Finally, this movie looks like I remember!” It’s warm and friendly looking again. Just my 2 cents, but the (2012) blu ray version looks closest to what I remember seeing in theaters. Now I’ll grant you, the cave shots may be a bit brighter, and some scenes look blurry (the spiders on their backs), so maybe not perfect, but good.

I have seen a 35mm print at a local theater and I partially agree. Very yellow-leaning, but not necessarily warm. RotLA 35mm LPP looks nearly exactly like the print I saw color-wise. However, I feel like the Blu-ray very much leans too red/warm at a lot of points. The print I saw was closer to the 4K during specific dark scenes like when Belloq drinks wine with Marion. You can see that reflected in LPP as well. I lean closer to the 4K for that reason, although the Blu-ray has a lot of merits. To me, natural looking colors technically look closer to the 35mm print I saw than the warmer colors on the Blu-ray.

I can’t argue if the bluray is more yellow or red tinted than what I saw, and I’m sure visual memory is as bad as acoustic memory (like 3 seconds), but I do remember being struck with that impression of it being very yellow or warm tinted, and that was before I got into good stereos and calibrated video (I even have my own colorimeter to calibrate grayscale on my monitors and projector, now). I saw it in a large 1,000+ seat theater in 70mm, so maybe the 70mm prints were different? It also seems to me that I remember an interview with Spielberg where he said he was unhappy with the colors and passed the film prints through a yellow or warming filter to make the film feel more “alive” or vibrant, but I can’t find any reference to that interview. Maybe he just did that to some 70mm prints for the big theater openings? Anyway, like I said, I was just throwing out my recollections of the film, but that was 40 years ago. Perhaps my memory has exaggerated what I remember. That and the old man’s memory could be a bit flaky, just like the old man. 😉

Thanks for sharing.

I’ve seen this discussion (yellow/gold tint on Raiders blu ray) on various sites, and I don’t want to get into a big discussion or step on any toes, but I’d like to relate my experiences with this movie as I was 18 and saw it when it first came out, and people who saw it in theaters should relate their experience for how it looked originally. If no one wants to hear another raiders color experience, by all means, ignore me.

When I first saw the movie, the one thing that stood out immediately was a very warm tint, and I may have remarked to my date (now my wife) how warm the movie was. Now mind you, I wasn’t into video or audio hobbies or equipment at this point in my life, but the warmth was immediately apparent to me. It looked like most outdoor scenes were shot in morning or evening light, but bright as normal daylight. The Nepal bar scenes were definitely warm looking (yellow/red tints). I saw the movie a couple of times in big theaters and it was always the same. When it first aired on television, I thought how it already looked old and faded and cold (no warm tint). Every release I’ve seen since then (only vhs and dvd) looked as if it was taken from an old faded videotape of the movie. It never looked right (or like I first saw it in theaters). It always seemed cold and somehow faded, and looked like a 50’s or 60’s faded movie.

When I first saw the 2012 Blu ray, I thought to myself, “Finally, this movie looks like I remember!” It’s warm and friendly looking again. Just my 2 cents, but the (2012) blu ray version looks closest to what I remember seeing in theaters. Now I’ll grant you, the cave shots may be a bit brighter, and some scenes look blurry (the spiders on their backs), so maybe not perfect, but good.

I’m not going to argue if someone wants the yellows toned down a bit, or darkens the movie a tad, or even if they want to perfectly correct the colors, but the blu ray is essentially the experience I had in theaters if you want the original theater look. With all the home releases viewed over the years, even people who saw it in theaters may have skewed memories of how warm this movie was, but my memory of how warm the movie was has actually stuck with me all these years, even before there was a yellow tint/no tint debate. Again, just my $.02.

Leo