Really wish Disney would release Mandolorian on physical home media for editing but who knows when that will happen.
Thank you for this! I had a hard time watching the holiday special but it’s necessary.
I’ll send you a PM to discuss this. (Click the speech bubble at the top right.)
Just wanted to thank you for this guide. Found a lot of great stuff on usenet.
Regarding the lack of deleted scenes available for Steven Spielberg films, well he doesn’t do those or audio commentary for that matter either.
Yes I’m aware he doesn’t do deleted scenes but The Lost World seems to be an exception for some reason? Deleted scenes are included on the DVD, not all of them. I wonder why he doesn’t like to release them? The only way you can see some deleted scenes are in still images for some of the films like Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones but that is about it.
In regards to your earlier comment I really wish Spielberg would release deleted scenes of his movies. I know he doesn’t like to do so for some reason but I always wondered why The Lost World was an exception? They even show an extended version on the SyFy channel which I wonder if anyone has made that. Even then not all of the deleted scenes are available. Saving Private Ryan is another one I’d love to see. For Jurassic Park there doesn’t seem to be as much filmed but whatever we can get would be great!
It’s interesting to think on what might have been in movies but I think it was the right call on letting the main cast including Han to survive ROTJ. If I recall correctly, it was Kasdan that also wanted or suggested that Lando should get killed by the Sarlacc to show how dangerous it was and that if he died the audience would be worried for their heroes. Ultimately, I think it was a good choice to let Lando live. We wouldn’t have gotten him and Nien Numb piloting the Falcon to destroy the DSII with Wedge tag teaming. I never get tired of watching the flipping back and forth between all their conflicts during the final battles of the film.
I’m surprised a 70MM mag print hasn’t surfaced. Nor have loose reels in a number of years. I came upon reels for Empire and Return of the Jedi once upon a time on Ebay.
I just have a feeling they would be faded all to hell, be warped or even have vinegar syndrome.
Might be one of the few pieces of star wars lost to time sadly. At the very least the final scene can still be viewed in some form on youtube with audience reactions right before the jump to hyperspace as someone posted earlier. Bet lucasfilm has something somewhere digitally scanned for preservation.
I knew it had something to do with that extra attention. This happened right when I decided to download the new 2.1 of course haha
I asked about it but wasn’t given an answer. Probably just site maintenance. I’m sure they’re just really busy.
Got to see this on the big screen finally during fathom events. Soon it it be can be seen the way it was meant to be at home so I’m excited.
Thank you! Haven’t seen the original version since 1999. My friends didn’t even realize when I told them they haven’t seen TPM as it was originally since theaters so naturally they were intrigued.
ZigZig said that he’ll update it when there is something to report. ZigZig said in another post that the lab scanning the print is shut down due to corona.
No need to report that to him until we have something to report! 😄 ha!
getting the original crocodiles and waterfall would be cool!
wonder why they ever changed the crocodiles
One of the co-directors stated they weren’t satisfied with the original version because they were in a rush to get the film done. Guess they thought the new versions were better.
Btw any update on this? The Lion King is my favorite animated Disney movie.
Aw man I hope this project is still happening. Would love to see the Leone Cut if that is even possible.
Looks pretty good! Hope you can get the colors as close as possible.
If you got this print could you get it scanned in 4K? I’m willing to donate. Looks like the seller has it at 220 EUR now.
The VHS version was not altered a bit from the theatrical release
Uhg. No. Excuse the incoming long post but prequel preservations are my thing.
There were two theatrical versions of the film during its initial run: film and digital.
The film version and the digital version are basically identical from a sound design perspective (this is important later), but visually they are different. Give or take a few minor altercations, the digital theatrical print is visually identical to the home video release, whereas the film print of AOTC includes multiple visual additions/subtractions that are well documented on this site and in other places (Anakin’s robotic hand being the prime example).
The home video release of AOTC is across the board (on DVD/VHS/VCD), identical to the digital theatrical release on a visual level, as aforementioned. However, the initial home video release changes a few audio cues, the most notable being Padme’s “Yes” being changed to a more natural “Uh-huh” after falling out of the Republic Gunship.
Contrary to popular belief, the VHS is not only pan and scan; a few European releases of the film on VHS exist in Widescreen format. I know this because I own them all. However the US, UK, AUS, etc., releases of the film on VHS and VCD (VCD being Asian releases) are in pan and scan, until the very final shot of the film (the wedding scene), which jarringly cuts to widescreen before the credits crawl.
The Widescreen DVD release is identical to the digital theatrical print in every way bar the audio cues. The Fullscreen DVD release is identical to the VHS/VCD release.
The Blu Ray is again different, changing up even more audio cues and rearranging some shots here and there.
There is also an IMAX version, which has never been preserved. There are recreations, but they are not accurate to a tee.
As it stands the only true theatrical version is in the form of bootlegs, which can be found if you know where to look.
Or, obviously, if you have access to all the original film reels.
Hopefully this information is helpful to someone, and hopefully I won’t have to repeat it again, haha.
As an extra tidbit though, the comment about it being identical to the VHS release (the theatrical version, that is), is actually true for the TPM VHS release… Kind of. I’m not going to get super into it here but there are one or two minor altercations between the theatrical and VHS releases of TPM that prevent it being truly accurate, but it’s very close.
And while we’re on the topic, the ROTS VHS and VCD are the same as the full screen ROTS DVD.
As it stands the only way to see the actual theatrical releases of the prequels are in the form of original film reels, bootlegs or fan recreations. The ROTS Blu Ray does not preserve the theatrical print as there are CGI and audio enhancements; too often I see people claiming otherwise.
I really appreciate the information here since it can get kind of confusing keeping track of what has changed between the multiple versions of the flims. I’m certain if George Lucas was still making star wars films we would still be getting different versions of them. Something I’m wondering since it has never been preserved is exactly what versions of the scenes that are different are included in the IMAX. For example, does the IMAX have Anakin’s hand moving to grab Padme’s or does it have the version where it doesn’t? lol
These look great with the film grain. It was added in post if I recall correctly?
EDIT: ZigZig cleared things up for me in regards to what resolution AOTC was filmed, sad we can’t truly get better. Thanks! Looking forward to your 4K release of TPM.
You are very generous! Looking forward to your upcoming projects especially Theatrical TPM in 4K!
Hey was wondering who if anyone is currently restoring this project in 4K? Would be happy to donate if necessary.
I’m glad you all have taken an interest in the IMAX cut of AOTC. Are there any fan recreations available? Would be great if it got an official release or maybe someone who worked on the film could shed some light on it.
Thank you so much for all your effort and time put into preserving these culturally significant works. Really excited to see those projects released, especially 4K80. Will continue to support you guys throughout.