R2D2

really really great man! That is some achievement!

Infos for German Version:

All 3 of the Star Wars came into cinema in Germany/Austria in german dub language. This dub was never replaced since then. Due to added SE scenes or changed dialogues the voices in those scenes got replaced by new actors, but only in the added/changed dialogues. Vader has 3 different voices in ESB now. Standard, "Prepare my shuttle for my arrival" and another one for the "Imperator Hologram" Scene. The empire also got a new voice for the ESB hologram scene, the one from the prequels. An interesting fact about german audio, that since SE several actors appeared to be lispering due to some miss-use of some filtering. For the blu ray release this was fixed and all sounds very clear now.

We got a german crawl for all three movies, german end titles for ANH, german alien subtitles for ANH & ROTJ.

many thanks. I want to add that foreign language versions of those SE and Prequel disks would be of great preservation value as well.

please see this as being curious and not as a complaint: is the Sith dts audio on those discs so different to the Blu Ray Release?

Let me tell you that I am impressed about this project. Really! It is a tribute to the movies itsself.

Is the actual work done on the 4k version or on the 1080p version?

(I got demotivated for the german project since the laserdisc player which arrived was not working but this could be something to motivate me getting this project going again.)

phantom menace looks really wax-softened, like the blu-ray. :(

SilverWook said:

buddy-x-wing said:

I just wish there was some kind of audio commentary or someone to explain to me , that after 30 years why Han's Line in EMPIRE "You could use a good kiss!" was cut from the Blue Ray? I just wanna hear some kind of logical explanation as to how deleting that line ADDS anything or IMPROVES the quality of the movie?  it's like cutting out the punchline of the joke??

Does George really hate HAN SOLO that much that he needs to water down his character at every turn?

I just want to hear the rationale that went into making the decision to remove the line, because now all I hear is the gap where it used to be.

 

I hope this is a joke, or one hell of a audio remixing mistake!

I just heard the line on the blu ray. still there.

Wasting time and money has never been Lucas' style. In fact, although the effects were crucial, providing a majority of the film's evironments and many of its supporting characters, the director had little interest in overtaxing time and resources to achieve effects that were prestine. "I'm a strong proponent, for better or worse, of making a film that works," Lucas said. "I want the audience to be entertained by the film, moved by the film, educated by the film - but I'm not all interested in having it to be technically perfect, because technical perfection has nothing to do with telling a story.

from Mythmaking - Behind The Scenes of Attack Of The Clones

Link to the Source

This is probably THE reason why the changes in the updated editions are done half-assed, why the dvd/br product quality is half-assed as long as GL is in command. it's about telling a story.

returning the original progressive frame from two interlaced fields is what i call deinterlacing. so does wiki:

Progressive source material

Interlaced video can carry progressive scan signal, and deinterlacing process should consider this as well. Typical movie material is shot on 24 frames/s film; when converting film to interlaced video using telecine, each film frame can be presented by two progressive segmented frames (PsF). This format does not require complex deinterlacing algorithm because each field contains a part of the very same progressive frame. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinterlacing#Progressive_source_material

This image looks like it's not correctly deinterlaced:
http://imageshack.us/f/8/54331540.png/

Good luck to your project

Hi,

does anyone know this tv documentary that was released to laserdisc in Japan?

http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/28211/SS098-0022/SFX-Special-(1984)

It’s without subtitles (!), featuring english audio (& japan audio).

According to the laserdisc database it features behind the scenes of ESB and ROTJ.

Someone sells it on ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.at/SFX-SPECIAL-Laserdisc-JAPAN-84-Star-Wars-TRON-/170698654715?pt=US_Laserdisc&hash=item27be6ec3fb

This could be a nice preservation project.

Has the star wars related content been preserved yet?

I checked the file structure of the blu ray discs: all files in the stream folder and the png files in the other folders.

I didn't find any videos nor pics that don't seem like being part of the collection of interviews, short making ofs, 360° turnarounds, artwork pics.

It's either one of those short making of clips that is not featured through the menu.

Or the easter egg is online content that is not stored physically on the discs.

Or there are no easter eggs.

Boba Fett cartoon can be accessed if you follow the instruction from Bill Hunt in his review of the blu rays: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/bdreviews091611.html

Here is a german news article about blu ray sales charts in germany:

http://www.mediabiz.de/video/news/kaufcharts-star-wars-mit-fulminantem-blu-ray-start/310059

The complete box immediately place itsself on Top 1 of the blu ray charts. The OT box hits Top 20, while Prequel Trilogy is not in the Top 20 at all.

These are only the numbers for germany, where Lucasfilm really fixed some major audio issues that have been there since 1997.

Isn't screaming no like Vader does now in the final scene something you do when you are angry? When you can't hold it any longer and release all your anger? Isn't this more the way of the dark side?

I think GL didn't think enough about this change.

When watching the Bonus features I saw of course the deleted scenes. The interviews and mini-docs sometimes feature on-set audio, scenes without their score, alternate angles & takes, bits and pieces of the OUT (like the unexpanded Bespin), new audio commentary for the OT.

And one might not forget the new audio mix.

Does someone already have plans to use stuff from the blu ray release for their next projects?

A Fan-Documentary like Star Wars Begins for example?

Fan Edits?

Preservation projects?

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And does someone know if its possible to zoom the window area to full screen, when watching most of the bonus content on disc 7/8?

Mavimao said:

R2D2 said:

The OT deleted scenes are muted from time to time without any technical reason. Sound is suddenly off completely in the middle of a shot and on after a few seconds again in the same shot. Technically the sound is either on the master tapes they used or not.

The only explanation I have is Lucasfilm is doing this on purpose to avoid fan films based on those scenes.

It's a shame that fans who are paying to watch those scenes are paying 100% but don't get 100% of their content.

Films at the time were edited on machines in which you had the picture on film on one reel and on another, a magnetic tape shaped like film for the sound. You had to first sync up the picture and sound, mark a big X on the sound strip and film to indicate when the clapboard hit, cut up the shot and hang it on a hook by the sprocket holes in a bin nearby.

Some shots don't even have any on set sound recorded! These are usually 2nd unit shots: cutaways, establishing shots, etc.

So when you're editing, you only have the on set sound. If there is no sound available, you just throw in empty slug to maintain sync.

Lucasfilm isn't cheating you out of anything. I am actually surprised the 2 reel workprint materials still even exist!

 I have to admit, I seem to have been wrong on this one. But what I meant was that the audio is muted within the same shot like it does several times during the Cantina Sequence. However the audio is missing as well on the Behind the Magic 1995 Cdrom sequence at the exact spots. I take back that it was done on purpose.

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Easter eggs:

I checked the filestructure of Disc 7 & Disc 8 and found no easter eggs - other than the boba fett cartoon on Disc 8, which actually isn't hidden and hence shouldn't be called easter egg.

What's on there is either interviews, short making ofs, 360° turnarounds, pics or menu stuff.

Where are those Easter eggs? Maybe it's online content that is not physically stored on the discs?

Digital copies for Star Wars:

1. Connect your bd-live enabled blu ray  player to the internet through your home network.
2. Connect your portable device to your home network using wi-fi.
3. Visit the app store on your portable device and download the pocket blu app.

you're all set: simply insert your pocket blu enabled disc into your player and launch the pocket blu app on your portable device to get your digital copy now.

to learn more, visit www.pocketblu.com or your portable device's app store.

Just took the time to take a look at the real bonus discs with a friend, who bought the set.

Didn't detect any Easter Eggs when going through the file structure of Disc 9 - the Documentaries.

The OT deleted scenes are muted from time to time without any technical reason. Sound is suddenly off completely in the middle of a shot and on after a few seconds again in the same shot. Technically the sound is either on the master tapes they used or not.

The only explanation I have is Lucasfilm is doing this on purpose to avoid fan films based on those scenes.

It's a shame that fans who are paying to watch those scenes are paying 100% but don't get 100% of their content.

Here is a link to a 3 part 'documentary', length is 21min, language is english but overdubbed with german.

http://de.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/22851/exklusives-star-wars-special.html

it is copyright 2011 as it features the blu ray menues and shows clips from them.

please post here if you find a higher quality version or if you find an english only version.

It's a shame that there are so many gigabyte left free on those bonus discs! But no 'From Star Wars to Jedi', no stuff from the dvd releases ported over.

adywan said:

...The old "making of.." docs are terrible quality. They are plagued with horrendous mpeg1/2 compression and other digital artefacts and then the interlacing issues turn the picture into a line-fest when there is the slightest motion.  It looks like watching an old VCD but with slightly sharper picture.

As Adywan reported the vintage documentaries seems of bad quality.

How do they compare to the Laserdisc/VHS preservations that guys did from those Making Ofs?

Can somebody post screenshots?

Is William Conrad the narrator of the first Making Of?

at least www.archive.org did a few snapshots from starwars.com

http://www.starwars.com">http://wayback.archive.org/web/20020915000000*/http://www.starwars.com

grisan, myspleen is an option as well. everybody can get an invitation if needed as we have one of the myspleen-admins here in the forums.

it's your choice

Hi!

When I searched through the news archives of the famoust german star wars site www.starwars-union.de i discovered something interesting that could be something to investigate.

In the year 2001 the Star Wars trilogy SE was broadcasted, 16:9 enhanced anamorph and in german dolby digital 5.1 on german pay tv for the first time. We know that already.

The channel broadcasted Star Wars Episode I as well. On 1st of april 2001 (over 6 months before dvd launch) was the first viewing, in 16:9 anamorph, and in german dolby digital 5.1 surround.

This is both audio and videowise interesting for preservations and fan edits.

Video:

• Theatrical Version
• Anamorph 16:9
• DVB Source

Audio:

• Dolby Digital 5.1 german audio of Theatrical Version

We all know that the DVD/Blu Ray got its own sound mix and is not the theatrical edit.

The original news can be read here:

http://www.starwars-union.de/nachrichten/1113/StarWars_im_digitalen_Format/

The remaining question is if fans have recorded one of the broadcasts back then. With research among the german fanclubs I am quite sure this treasure can get found and preserved.

Some people asked me if I have the GKar Editions. I only got Ep6, my Ep4 and Ep5 discs both have read errors.

I can post Ep6 on usenet. I would be interested in having a complete set of them again. Can anyone upload Ep4 + Ep5?