He's gonna futz it up like he did with Star Trek. Nothing good will come out of this. I wish people would realize that there ARE other directors out there besides this Abrams dumbass.
walking_carpet said:
one day lucas will insert jimmy smits into ANH freaking out because he sees the death star ready to blow him away. :(
You know... if Lucas still had Star Wars in his big fat grip, I would bet actual money that he would make this change. Thankfully, now that Disney owns it and Lucas is out of the picture, we can finally rest assured that the constant butchering of these classic films will stop!
...hopefully.
Well, whether or not Episodes 7, 8, and 9 are any good (and they could be crap, but who knows?), I'm SURE that there is a much higher chance of the OUT being released under Disney's watch than Lucas's. We all know Lucas had a hatred for the OUT and adamantly refused to release them, despite all our nagging - I doubt Disney will be as unwilling to release them. So I think this news is the best news I've heard in years!!
What I'd just like to know is... does this mean Princess Leia will be a Disney Princess?
Wait, they released a version of Raiders with CGI pollution?!?
Wow, thanks for posting those stats! Our people have DEFINITELY made a statement that WILL be heard at LFL. There's no way they can ignore us now.
For all the people who are still worried that we've "lost" somehow, just also remember this: for the first time, our little "movement" to boycott the stupid releases has been reported in major news outlets, and even non-"fanboy" sources have taken the stand with us for film preservation (for a high-quality release of the OUT). Some people may have caved in and bought the blu-rays, but even amongst them, the changes are almost universally hated, and there has been a very publicized backlash against those changes.
Plus, since when has monetary returns meant anything about quality, or people's attitude towards something? "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" was one of the highest-grossing films of all time, but it's also one of the shittiest and universally-reviled movies of all time.
And even amongst those who caved and bought the blu-ray sets, the prequel sets STILL underperformed. Nobody will ever like THOSE shitty movies.
I agree that the Jedi should be much more than just people with lightsabers. I don't think that all Jedi should even have lightsabers; of course the Knights would have them, but the Masters would either be of a different class altogether, or would simply have developed past the need for lightsabers. I don't think Yoda has a lightsaber, for example...have any of you guys seen the reviews by "Mr. Plinkett" at RedLetterMedia? He makes some interesting points about lightsabers.
Either way, I've also always hated the word "padawan," too; I would think the best term to use would be "squire," to further go along with the Medieval "theme" that the Jedi Knights have.
CWBorne said:
I want to be able to return to [Tatooine] in the third prequel and have it illustrated exactly how damaging this conflict has been, even to planets not directly involved in the war.
As we've discussed before, I think Tatooine should definitely make an appearance early in the revised PT as a promising, "nice" world, but we shouldn't see it again until ANH, when we can see just how far it's fallen into crap.
I'm very sorry to hear about your family problems.
I wish there was something I could do to help you guys with this restoration project! I'm really looking forward to your final release.
^ Well, I prefer to remain optimistic. Surely we've had SOME effect, and I'm sure that any effect, no matter how small, is still felt by the higher-ups. They know we exist, and they know what we want - Lucas can't hold out forever.
pittrek said:
Promus said:
Geez, they didn't even include "From Star Wars to Jedi?" That sucks...
I wish they'd finally release the old "Droids" cartoon on DVD or something (the complete and unaltered collection). I loved that series!
You can get it from an "unofficial source" if that's OK for you :)
And what "unofficial source" might that be? Because that's totally OK with me (although it would be nice if LFL put out a quality release of them).
Geez, they didn't even include "From Star Wars to Jedi?" That sucks...
I wish they'd finally release the old "Droids" cartoon on DVD or something (the complete and unaltered collection). I loved that series!
Mike O said:
We've lost guys. It's over.
"No we're not...what kind of talk is that?"
Drewton said:
Promus said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Yeah, Doctor Who has a killer restoration team.
It's too bad the original Star Trek didn't have as good of a restoration team, either. Although Paramount's idea of "restoration" for the old Star Trek episodes was "make them darker and slap filters on it."
Are you talking about the TOS or the early films? TOS is pristine.
TOS, of course - anything besides those original 79 episodes isn't even canon (as far as I'm concerned)!
georgec said:
I figured the deleted scenes wouldn't last long on youtube.
That's why I ripped them off YouTube while I could (in 1080p). If anyone wants the scenes, just PM me. :)
MathUser said:
PT Anakin was a bodyguard for a while so he probably did that alot. He also fought in the Clone wars for the side of good.
Being a bodyguard isn't necessarily good - you might be protecting bad people, who knows? As for the Clone Wars, there WAS no "side of good," since the Clone Troopers were developed with the sole intention of providing a dangerous, treasonous army for the Republic, and the opening crawl for Episode III says that "there are heroes on both sides."
Of course lame reasons like that are why I don't bother considering the prequel trilogy canon, but PT Anakin was not a good, selfless person. Now please stop taking this thread off-topic!
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Yeah, Doctor Who has a killer restoration team.
It's too bad the original Star Trek didn't have as good of a restoration team, either. Although Paramount's idea of "restoration" for the old Star Trek episodes was "make them darker and slap filters on it." But I should save my Original Star Trek purism for the proper forums.
georgec said:
For every fan that boycotts there are 500-5,000 fans that don't care.
We shouldn't sell ourselves short, though. We may not be the largest chunk of the fanbase, but we're here, and I'm sure we have SOME effect on the bigger picture (especially the fan editors like Adywan).
CWBorne, that was pretty much how I envisioned it too. Real-life dictatorships don't spring up literally overnight - that was just another unrealistic, cartoony aspect of the prequels. They had to cram the formation of the Empire into one of their movies, so they did it last-minute and half-assed.
Personally, I would span it out similar to this:
Episode I - Meet Anakin, goes off to Clone Wars with Obi-Wan, starts training as Jedi
Episode II - Clone Wars have been finished for a while, in the meantime we learn that Palpatine has been vying for more power since the end of the war, Anakin has become somewhat seduced by the Dark Side of the Force and eventually turns. The movie doesn't exactly need to make it clear that Darth Vader is Anakin - we don't necessarily have to see that. This would mean that in Episode III, the character of Anakin would suddenly disappear and be replaced by this Darth Vader guy, who we then have to wait out a film before learning that he's actually Anakin.
Episode III - Empire already in place (we learn about what happened in dialogue), Rebellion wins it's first major victory against the Empire and steals the Death Star plans.
A lot of the characters and situations in Episode IV seem like they don't have much of an introduction, and spring out of nowhere, so I always felt that just as ANH focused on Luke and was "his" movie, Episode III should be "Leia's movie" and show her leading the Rebellion against the Empire. This version of Episode III would also introduce the "new" characters you'd see in the rest of the Trilogy (minus Luke, Han, and Chewie, of course...those "new characters" won't be introduced until the next film), like Leia, the Rebellion, C-3PO and R2-D2 (this would be their first appearance in the saga).
MathUser said:
The original was made available for a while
Yeah, but it sure as hell isn't being made available now.
TV's Frink said:
Promus said:
Don't suggest that people watch them on the blu-ray discs. It's distasteful.
There's nothing wrong with buying the Blu-ray discs. It's a personal choice.
Okay...you've either been under a rock, or are intentionally ignorant of the controversy surrounding the blu-ray releases (and the subsequent boycott) or you're just a troll. In which case I fell for your trap by replying to your idiotic post...
...dammit.
Yeah, I'm glad that they knew back then how to properly edit a scene, and that they were able to recognize weak dialogue. The extended scenes with Han and Leia seem like something out of the prequels; the "final cut" of their relationship plays a lot more mature and realistic than...whatever it was that was there before (and was mercifully cut).
I wouldn't have minded seeing the Jerjerrod scenes in the final cut of ROTJ, though...
danny_boy said:
And you really need to see these scenes in 1080/24p---not on youtube.
Don't suggest that people watch them on the blu-ray discs. It's distasteful. Plus, I've been ripping the videos off of YouTube (so I'll still have them even when Lucasfilm takes them down) and I've been downloading them at 1080p. So watching them on YouTube IS watching them at 1080p.
Thank you for clearing that up!
Someone posted something about Obi-Wan muttering something about midichlorians in ESB for the blu-ray. I have to know if this is true!
LexX said:
I don't know why does so many people think the SEs are the only way to make money. I bet that if he would have released only the originals on DVD and BD he actually would have made MORE money.
Heeeey...I just thought of something...
If we were able to convince Lucas that he could make metric shit-tons of money on the OUT, maybe THAT would motivate him to release them!!
Oh, and I'm going to put aside my pride for a second and ask a total noob question: what does "GOUT" stand for? I'm guessing the "OUT" is "Original Unaltered Trilogy" of course, but what's the "G" for?
Adium said:
So sad to see so many people breaking down and buying this garbage.
"I'm such a hypocrite. Just bought the set"
"I couldn't take it any longer. IT'S STAR WARS ON BLU RAY."
And that...is why they fail.
Well, I've never really been a part of any Star Wars release, so this new blu-ray stuff doesn't really make me feel left-out at all. I actually don't own any of the movies on DVD (I just have the VHS copies) and I torrented the 2006 version of the OUT (the laserdisc transfers) so I wouldn't have to buy the whole set with the bastardized films in them and give any money to the powers-that-be.
Yeah, now that I think about it, splitting off each idea into its own thread would be best for collaborative purposes. I think this thread has evolved past the simple "tell us what you think" and more into the "brainstorming for concepts and executing ideas" territory.
I'm with you guys all the way!
