I am also interested in seeing the link, please! From the 1997 version of RoTJ I only found a VHSRip in 4:3, and it’s dubbed…
I checked this file and noticed that compared to the 1080p rip from the theatrical cut, it’s 10 seconds longer right at the beginning. I usually confirm this using VirtualDub2.
I asked MKVToolnix to compensate that with a positive delay. However late in the film the sync was again changed, I believe a few seconds. So I was unable to sync all the tracks ported from the regular Blu-ray.
And it’s worth mentioning that after 2017 they did a few digital changes to this cut:
https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=642906
About Friends in 4:3 and 16:9, I took a look into the first episode, and was able to pause in both the cuts, the 4:3 and 16:9 or 1.78:1 version.
https://i.postimg.cc/xj3SChYd/X1.jpg
4:3
https://i.postimg.cc/HsW17zs9/X2.jpg
16:9
It turns out Friends in 4:3 is OPEN MATTE. Meaning there’s extra information on the top and bottom, which was cut for the 16:9. At the same time the 16:9 opens up the image more to the sides, in this specific scene (episode 1, 1m40s or 1m42s) to the right.
Open matte is a filming technique that involves matting out the top and bottom of the film frame in the movie projector (known as a soft matte) for the widescreen theatrical release and then scanning the film without a matte (at Academy ratio) for a full screen home video release.
Open matte versions are not the intended way by the director to view these movies, because they often reveal more information than necessary, so the 16:9 version (and most films are shot with the 16:9 ratio in mind, in fact ALL OF THEM, including TV shows like Friends, shot on FILM and 35mm).
So this extra info at top and bottom is always cut, and then the Widescreen version reveals more details at the sides, which is of course CUT in 4:3.
Think of it this way: face shots are always better in 4:3, while landscapes are way better when viewed in Widescreen, including 2.35:1. If I wanted to take a selfie then I would be showing more my face instead of the people around me, which will force me to take a wide shot that reveals more of the location I am at the moment, what people often do when they travel to a foreign country and want to show how beautiful the surroundings are.
This is when a widescreen picture will make more sense, even if it’s in 1.78 and not 2.35.
Even so, 4:3 open matte versions (or sometimes 1.85:1 Open matte ones from 2.35:1 movies, such as Spider-Man 1, 2 and 3, Terminator 2 (1991), or THE MATRIX) may be interesting to look at.
However in FRIENDS case I am not seeing much benefit.
Here’s another interesting comparison from the same 1st episode:
14m48s and 11m18s
https://i.postimg.cc/MHVNjsnq/X1.jpg
4:3
https://i.postimg.cc/mZH0qr8J/X2.jpg
16:9
As you can see the 16:9 picture is much better: while it cuts a little the top and bottom (the lamp is hidden), it reveals much more the sides than 4:3. So 16:9 was a great decision by the distributor, despite in some instances not being optimal for viewing.
Why’s that? Read again what Highdefdigest said about the image:
Fans will need to take note of three important aspects of this newer viewing presentation for ‘Friends:’ first, the original 1.33:1 framed versions of the show are not included in this release. Second, the majority of the show was composed in a manner that would keep most of the activity in what viewers would see on the 1.33:1 frame, so while the picture is expanded, it sometimes becomes slightly distracting if one pays attention to the tight composition of the majority of shots, leaving wide open, empty space in a large amount of the frame. Lastly, and most importantly, there have been a number of scenes that created visual goofs, due to the tight filming conditions of some scenes making the ends of sets and sometimes even video and sound equipment visible. For the most part, this Blu-ray release removes these visual errors. For example, in the episode ‘The One with Rachel’s New Dress,’ as Rachel shoos a duck out of the apartment, for a brief moment in the HD broadcast version a camera is visible, as is the end of the set. This Blu-ray release fixes this issue with a cropping of the edge and a slight zoom, making part of Rachel’s body leave frame momentarily. Additionally, errors featured on the 1.33:1 framed version of the show are also fixed, with audio equipment featured at the top of the frame in a shot of ‘The One After Joey and Rachel Kiss’ as Monica does her (somewhat weird) hair braid dance. Said equipment is no longer visible on this release, and it’s not even a noticeable change, like the quick zoom job fix.
What this review says makes sense:
The majority of the show was composed in a manner that would keep most of the activity in what viewers would see on the 1.33:1 frame
So it was shot in 16:9 (film/35mm) but the action was also most of the time happening in a way that a 4:3 frame would not look cropped as hell. Meaning the benefit of expanding the picture to the sides don’t offer so much gain to the viewers. The benefit is there, but most of the action was happening with a 4:3 frame in mind.
That doesn’t mean we need to ditch the 16:9 version, it’s just that it’s not replacing 100% 4:3. Meaning 4:3 may be worse or better, depending on the scene. Or that 4:3 is not really worse as it’s not cutting so much the sides.
Now, compare that to SEINFELD, which was never released in Blu-ray (only in DVD and 4:3) and it’s only available in HDTV broadcasts:
Seinfeld was clearly shot with the 4:3 ratio in mind. Even if it was in the exact same situation as FRIENDS, what happened was this:
The 16:9 broadcast versions are indeed cropping a lot of the top and bottom of the picture, and adding negligible information on the sides. Really, almost nothing.
So that makes me wonder if the distributor did a lousy job with the 16:9 HDTV versions or…
if Seinfeld is ever released properly on Blu-ray, it would have the same fate as Star Trek: THE NEXT GENERATION, being released as 4:3 and never in Widescreen.
Back to FRIENDS: in DVD Warner released as far as I know only the EXTENDED EPISODES. In Blu-ray it was the other way around: only the ORIGINAL BROADCAST VERSIONS.
So episode 1, for example, while UNCUT and blended by the OP, has 28m53s against 22m49s from the Blu-ray release.
It was a very bad decision to not include the extended episodes in HD.
This project is a great idea to finally watch FRIENDS complete, the transitions are smooth and so far I am not seeing anything bad about it. The OP did a great job with it.
I understand how not everyone would be a fan of the aspect switching, My wife and I watched it through as I made them and found for us it got less noticeable, but people can feel differently about that part of it. I like the widescreen for the majority of it so I chose not to alter that, you may feel free to alter it for yourself if you want to put in that amount of work. Thanks for noticing the audio transitions that took an awful lot of time to get right and found helped make the aspect change that little bit less jarring.
Hi, I am interested in seeing how you did, too, if you could send me a PM with a link…
About the aspect ratio, these link explains a little bit about it: https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/7254/friends_complete.html
https://forums.thedigitalfix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611329
Friends was actually shot with the 16:9 ratio in mind. The cropping in this case was for the DVDs and of course, broadcast (4:3). Since there’s additional image in the Blu-rays, it would not make any sense to remove image just to make everything look the same.
Further explanation about aspect ratios:
This is an old 4:3 TV, and also reality if you are using an iPAD, which uses the same aspect ratio:
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And this is what everybody is using now:
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Back when we had DVDs, all contents (Widescreen or not) had to be put in discs within that frame:
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Of course that changed into this, for Blu-rays:
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The 1920x1080 resolution implies a 16:9 frame while 720x480 is of course a 4:3 frame.
So let’s say I have a random TV show, like Star Trek: The Next Generation (1987-1994), one that has been projected with the 4:3 ratio in mind, and has been released both in DVD and Blu-ray also that way… in 4:3.
This is how the Enterprise from TNG was projected to be viewed by us:
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The director didn’t care about opening the left/right sides.
This is what the above image would look like in any 4:3 screen:
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And this is what it will look like in any modern WIDESCREEN TV:
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Why there are black bars on the sides? Because you are trying to insert a 4:3 image into this here:
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And into this 16:9 frame the 4:3 image will fill from top to bottom (or bottom to top), but it will not be WIDE… enough.
If it was wide enough, then it would look like this:
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Let’s also assume the wider image from the TNG crew is from FRIENDS, which is also 16:9.
This is, of course, how any content with a different aspect ratio from 4:3/1.33:1 would appear in an old TV set:
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And this is how this wider image appears in a modern WIDESCREEN TV:
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No surprises that it fills the screen because they both share the same 16:9 ratio (16:9 = 1.78:1). If the image was in fact 2.35:1 then black bars (top and bottom) would also be noticed in this same WIDESCREEN TV.
Bottom line: since you have the same content in two aspect ratios, making them look the same means sacrificing the picture to cut the sides, since they can only look the same if not wide enough (which is how 4:3 already is).
And in the case of FRIENDS that means removing content from the 16:9 version, because that one (released in Blu-ray) is wider than the 4:3.
Both 4:3 and 16:9 have the same HEIGHT. It’s just that 16:9 is wider.
I am being painfully obvious, yet it’s necessary to explain all of this because not many people understand why things are the way they are. The black bars (on the sides or top/bottom) are there for a reason.
If you always want to fill 100% of your screen you are either going to distort or crop the image, applying zoom.
EDIT: correction: I said 720x480’s frame used the 4:3 AR but that’s not true… my bad:
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/why-720x480.229867/
http://www.miraizon.com/support/info_aspectratio.html
It’s more complicated than that, so search for this resolution and/or DVDs and ARs for further details.
They shot Friends on film which is widescreen. At the time they were not worried about 16:9 aspect ratios because no one had TVs like that, so the extra space was just cut off on televisions. Around season 4 the networks started telling him to account for 16:9 because the transition to widescreen was imminent, but he said he was skeptical and didn’t do what they asked.
Hey guys, can someone share a link for the 35mm scan? PM me, please. Is it version 2.0? I appreciate in advance!
I am really curious to watch and see how this looks, because all iterations I’ve seen so far from the first Matrix have put me off.
The 4K may be an improvement over what came before, still I never liked how this movie looks like in physical media.
I am now sharing the Matroska files from the 3 Bond movies (Dr. No, From Russia With Love and Goldfinger). To get them, please send me a PM (I can’t post links directly).
What each file has:
Subtitles: English and english HoH (subrip and pgs), Portuguese (subrip and pgs)
And finally: a) laserdisc commentary and b) Music and Sound Effects (laserdisc).
Added ± 20-25 seconds of black screen to the beginning. This allowed the laserdisc tracks to be synchronized (read the explanation I gave in the previous posts).
3.22 GB MKV (lossy)
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1204x720 23.976fps [V: English [eng] (h264 high L4.1, yuv420p, 1204x720)
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps [A: English [eng] (ac3, 48000 Hz, 6 channels)
Added 2 portuguese dubbing tracks (one is recent, the other is older);
Available: the english audio commentary track from Blu-ray (plus english subtitles for it) +
Subtitles: English and english HoH (subrip and pgs), Portuguese (also another portuguese subtitle for the older dubbing track, which is incomplete, the english audio fills the dubbing gaps)
And finally the laserdisc audio commentary.
Added ± 20-25 seconds from the MGM lion logo to the beginning. This allowed the laserdisc track to be synchronized (read the explanation I gave in the previous posts).
3.45 GB MKV (lossy)
Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1204x720 23.976fps [V: English [eng] (h264 high L4.1, yuv420p, 1204x720) [default]]
Audio: Dolby AC3 48000Hz 6ch 9216kbps [A: English [eng] (ac3, 48000 Hz, 6 channels) [default]]
Added 2 portuguese dubbing tracks (one is recent, the other is older);
Also added the english audio commentary tracks from Blu-ray (plus english and portuguese subtitles for it). +
Track 1 is from director Guy Hamilton and actors Sean Connery, Desmond Llewelyn, Lois Maxwell, Michael Mellinger and Honor Blackman, moderated by author of “The Incredible World of 007” Lee Pfeiffer.
Subtitles: English and english HoH (subrip and pgs), Portuguese
And finally a) the laserdisc audio commentary and b) Music and Sound Effects track.
Added ± 20-25 seconds from the MGM lion logo to the beginning. This allowed the laserdisc track to be synchronized at first, HOWEVER THIS ONLY APPLIES TO THE BEGINNING. Unfortunately, as the movie progresses, the audio starts to be out of sync for more or less 0.5 second and towards the ending I believe it’s 1 full second. So it’s only OK for perhaps the first half hour.
Are you talking about FanRes? If you’ve had trouble getting a hold of projects over there, I’m going to assume you haven’t interacted with the community at all. People don’t like random new users demanding access to fan projects and then leaving and never coming back. Make friends, then people will share. Nobody is making you pay any money to grab fan projects, and nobody is being excessively rapacious about anything. And what does what happened to Megaupload have anything to do with FanRes? It’s not a file host. It’s a public forum, just like OT. In fact, I’ve seen people only share projects with donors on OT, but I’ve never seen that on FanRes to my memory.
What I meant was that when you mix money with sharing the odds of the Powers That Be putting you in jail increase tremendously. Megaupload’s biggest mistake in my opinion was an incentive program that was adopted by them, encouraging the upload of “popular” files in return for payments to successful uploaders. In other words don’t take unnecessary chances of exposing yourself needlessly through donations for copyrighted works. It’s one thing to donate for a website to remain online and pay their servers, or paying Megaupload for more disk space and secure your data, it’s another to ask for money for sending a content to someone. My criticism of such sites (especially private trackers) is that they think they are somehow a “special” community when in the end we are all the same here or there, no one specific is better or worse.
I thought that FREE sharing was a common goal for everyone, that way everyone gains, not just making yourself known and earn money, or fame.
What I was looking for were the synchronized files, so I could just put them inside a DVD/Blu-ray/HDTV/streaming rip. I said before I managed to fix this for Dr. No. Both tracks are OK with it, so I don’t need anything from FanRES. I did this myself.
“From Russia With Love” - this one has a single track, the commentary. It’s also OK, I was able to do this, too. Now, for this movie we have two 4Ks: one with 29 GB (better colours and proper brightness in my opinion) and another with half that size.
For GOLDFINGER, contrary to the other two, I was UNABLE TO correct the sync (and if one track is flawed, the other is, too). I’ll explain: as the movie progresses the audio starts to be out of sync for perhaps 0.5 second and towards the ending I believe it’s 1 full second. So it’s only OK for the beginning, perhaps the first half hour.
The only way to correct this would be having a laserdisc rip and comparing with my own (DVD or Blu-ray or 4K from iTunes), or someone that is a specialist fixing this (perhaps it will need a lot of patience). I don’t know if FanRES did or how it did. It would be hard because the only way of trying to sync is listening to the music + effects track and looking at the video to see if the sound effects match with what is happening on the screen.
I can’t, of course, fix the ending, if I do that I will mess other parts, and vice-versa. Isolating specific areas of the movie and fixing them separately is required, I guess.
Maybe this is a fps problem or it means the laserdisc is in some scenes a little shorter than the newer medias. I can’t say what is exactly wrong without the Laserdisc rip (and it needs to be video + audio, not just audio like the ones from The Dossier), which would be crucial in solving this.
It’s unfortunate only Goldinger is not OK because the others appear to be for the entire movies.
And of course, for all 3 movies we need to add at least 20 seconds into the start, before the MGM logo. This is only a method of making sure the audio tracks will be in sync with the video, since they are longer.
Perhaps this is what you are looking for:
https://forum.fanres.com/thread-2899.html
It recreates the laserdisc content (including the extra logos) using Bluray footage and laserdisc audio.
These guys only want contributing donors to share anything, if at all. It’s one thing to ask for donations or funding for some project, like buying some rare material from eBay, it’s another to be rapacious about everything you can touch. That’s why sharing is dead nowadays, thanks to that sort of attitude and even for free we have private trackers only restricted to their clique and with all their screening, ruin things for everyone. I bet these guys will be a honeypot for a “bust” similar to the one that happened with the defunct Megaupload in 2012, and when that happens even them will have no access to said material. It’s sharing, especially FREE SHARING, that ensures this stuff will not be gone tomorrow. And make no mistake, that’s what copyright trolls only care about. Just look at what they are doing to Internet Archive these days…
It only took me a few hours to do what I asked. I only needed to discover how to sync properly. I added 24 seconds of black image to the beginning of the Blu-ray-rip, which it’s not ideal, still I think I managed to sync (for Dr. No) the 2 tracks you (or 007 Dossier) shared. I haven’t tried this for a lossless Blu-ray rip because I currently don’t have one for this movie, only a lossy copy at 1804x1080. A lossless MKV rip can be created with help from MAKEMKV and adjusted by MKVToolnix, if someone is interested.
This is what I did for my lossy rip:
Required:
MKVToolnix
gMKVExtractGUI
First I opened the lossy rip and decided to extract a small portion from it, to reinsert in the beginning. That would make sure no reencode would be necessary, so the image quality would stay the same. This is the ideal scenario.
That portion would be used to be added to the beginning, with the condition it would not have any audio related to it or if that’s the case, then it would be something that could not mess with the beginning by making it worse, before the MGM logo. In this case it was better to wait 20-25 seconds with no image rather than insert a random logo and force a reencode. A reencode would be required, too, if I had a logo matching with what he listen in the beginning of these 2 banned tracks because MKVTOOLNIX refuses to combine files totally different in terms of resolution and other technical data.
That Superman IV project I have here, and it has a VHS or LD logo added to the beginning, if I am not mistaken, the rip has 20 GB (it’s even bigger than the lossless file from the original Blu-ray), however it’s a reencode in the end.
This movie has I believe 8 seconds of black image before the file ends. I said before 18.6 seconds would be required (at the start), to compensate the differences. However we can’t cut as much as we want, due to the cut being only based on keyframes (I think this is how it’s called). In other words, if I wanted to cut 1 second and the keyframe had a lenght of 8 seconds, then I would be forced to accept 8 seconds or more, never less. That depends on the scene or how the file was created in the first place.
The only way to cut at a precise moment anywhere in the movie, or as much as I want equals = reencode.
This is how I cut the 8 seconds from the ending:
MKVTOOLNIX will save 2 extra files. The second will have the last 8 seconds (which means the last keyframe has 8 seconds).
Create 2 more copies from the generated file with 8 seconds. Control + C and control V.
Open one of them and with the right button choose Append Files. Select the other 2 and save as a new file. This new file will have 24 seconds and 23 ms. I am going to call it “TWENTY.mkv”.
Open the lossy rip again from Dr. NO, disable all items (all tracks), except for the video. Save as a new file. Note: don’t use any other internal option. Save the whole thing. I am going to call this DRNOVIDEO.mkv
Then open TWENTY.mkv, choose append file and select DRNOVIDEO.mkv. Save as a new file. I’ll call this new file EXPERIENCE.mkv. It will have 1h50m14s. The first 24 seconds will have no image and then the MGM logo will appear.
Now it’s time to use gMKVExtractGUI. Open the lossy rip from DR. NO and extract all desired tracks. In my case I now have the AC3 english/new commentary (and some foreign language/dubbing), and SRT/SUP subtitles separated from it. Also the chapters.
Open EXPERIENCE.mkv with MKVToolnix. Add all tracks from 6). Delay (in ms): Insert here (for all tracks extracted by gMKVExtractGUI) this number: 24023. If you are adding the chapter file (XML) in OUTPUT, do the same. This will make them start playing after the 24 seconds I added at step 5.
7.1) At the same time you are doing step 7, add the banned tracks, the laserdisc commentary and music/effects. For them another number needs to be added instead of 24023. The correct one (for both) is 5550. Then save as a new file.
This is how it looks like at the beginning, the first 1m30s:
With the original english track:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ubjex
Note: Vimeo can’t display this bit correctly, that’s why I had to upload to DM.
With the banned commentary:
https://vimeo.com/426336869
With the music and effects track:
https://vimeo.com/426337177
Another scene that tells me the audio is in sync is the one in which Bond shots twice after saying “It’s a Smith and Wesson, and you’ve had your six”. Play it with the banned commentary and the music/effects track, and you’ll see the sound effect will match the precise moment Bond fires the gun.
It’s annoying to try finding the right moment to sync this stuff and how much of emptiness, yet not impossible. I don’t know if all these steps are the best way to do this, so I am open to suggestions.
I prefer to watch all my contents in form of files, lossless and Matroska when possible, instead of full DVD/Blu-ray discs.
I have been wanting to contact the owner of 007 Dossier or someone in charge of these laserdisc files since I found them again this week (I saw them before, but forgot about it, and DVDCompare mentioned them while I was searching for 007 movies).
Here’s the thing:
If I try to insert the laserdisc commentary and the music/sound effects track (this is done using MKVToolnix) inside the Blu-ray rip, it will not match audio and video. Which means we would need to gain access to the original rip (the video) from these laserdisc captures for optimal experience.
Still, I tried to match these 2 tracks from Dr. No with my Blu-ray rip. When I say “match” I mean forcing the audio to be in sync with the video.
This is what I discovered:
The issue here is this: if I subtract 18.650 seconds from these 2 banned tracks then I will be removing a portion from them that starts at 1, 2 seconds from the video. That’s because the commentary, for example, doesn’t wait for more than a couple of seconds to be heard.
In other words, I can fix the sync, but at the same time I’ll be removing good seconds from these 2 tracks, which isn’t acceptable. This is happening because (and this I noticed, too) the laserdisc had more than the MGM logo, it had another one playing, so the intro was longer. (note: I have no idea if any DVD edition matches the LD, it’s worth checking).
So my only choice here would be editing the video itself and adding more content just to fix these sync problems, and I have nothing specific to add. And even if I did, that implies a reencode from the video and it would cease to be lossless (assuming this Blu-ray rip is that way).
A similar fix was done for this movie:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Superman-IV-International-Cut/id/15984/page/1
In the beginning we see the TV (or VHS/LD ?) logo. This is the only way to fix this I can think of, that would accomodate these tracks, provided the reencode is really good.
I will check the others later. Of course, without making sure these tracks are in sync with the BRRips, they can’t be enjoyed fully.
I am interested in checking this as well (please PM if it can be shared!), but there’s one thing I didn’t notice anyone asking: is this the cut or UNCUT version?
For more info about the cuts:
DVDs:
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1155
Blu-rays:
http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=21969
And there’s the workprint, I guess…
How is this link supposed to prove anything when I see a huge green tint in the picture from the scene in which the Joker shoots into the crowd and Bruce Wayne is just watching? This scene doesn’t look that way in any home video version, not even in the 4K.
It’s my belief these pictures don’t prove anything and they are either wrong or the source needs to be color corrected. In other words assuming the movie looks like this in 35mm is wrong and even assuming the 4K is supposed to look like this is wrong, too.
P.S. Found this good review in that OH video:
You’re pretty spot on in your assessment Oliver. The 4ks for all four are a disappointment and mere catalog updates for WB. The 4k UHD for 89 has less teal and is at least a better presentation than the 1080p remastered disc as that suffers from some of the same issues as the Matrix remastered Blu-ray.
You’re right that there is no official indication of any original crew members being consulted for any of the four transfers. They likely would have balked.
Even with the teal being more minimal in the 4k of 89 on the UHD it is still off. I agree the overall look is not what an original print looks like. However Returns is absolutely ruined with teal throughout and NONE of that is in an original print.
The audio is a disaster and ruins the effect of the mix of time periods in the film. The old SEDVD DTS you mentioned is good but like many dts dvd tracks is merely a few decibels louder than the Dolby track. The best sounding audio for 89 is still the old original mix releases on the Laserdisc and original flipper dvd. They have much more low end and still sound so good that it makes the Atmos totally unnecessary.
For years I’ve waited for properly dark transfers of the Burton films and new transfers for the sequels and this dumping out is apparently all we’re going to get. It’s extremely disheartening.
The audio for all three sequels are also remixes but less obviously so. It will still drive us fans nuts.
I had hoped that 4k revisits night finally mean the director’s cut of Forever would be released but I doubt that will ever happen unfortunately.
There’s also a guy claiming it’s the setup
Yeah I have a Sony X930E and the teal is only slightly more than the original. Nowhere near as bad as what he makes out. Everything else including sound is fantastic! Hardly any grain at all plus skin tones seem more accurate compared to bluray. Colours are much tighter and don’t bleed into each other like other versions. Maybe Oliver is just used to it a certain way and his TV oversaturates colours. LG and Samsung are notorious for that. Panasonic and Sony flagship TV’s are industry leaders for the most accurate picture.
Yep it’s definitely the TV, that is making the teal effect more prominent. Watched it on my other 4K monitor / TV and it’s Teal City! Shows you that you really do need great quality TV for real 4K clarity and colours. Batman Returns looks even better I think and yes same effect for the teal. On my Sony it’s not really noticeable. On the monitor it’s definitely kicked up a notch.
I’ve been telling this for months; no one listened.
The 1080p Blu-ray audio (original mix) can be easily added to the Matroska-lossless 4K one, no resync is needed, even though some sources said a negative delay of 167ms should be added.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Movies-with-wrong-color-grading-UPDATED/id/15873/page/9#1284326
If there’s any doubt about how these 4Ks were changed then read the above link.
Oliver is 100% right. Remember what they did with all Superman 1080p Blu-rays?
MEGA will never be reliable. Avoid them at all cost. I am trying today to download some files and after 1.5 GB they want me to wait 5 hours to continue, otherwise I’ll have to use a paid account. I can rely on Ultrasurf or try other stuff but after a while this gets tiresome (and never work when we want). I need to download over 15 GB of data today, and this is my current situation… Then there’s the fact you never download or upload things from there at max speed. I always have to send more than one file/part using 2 browsers, to get good results.
I suggest Google Drive for backups and sharing. Create a copy to share with others (if you want you may even use a different Google account, I created additional others for me) and another copy for you (for backup purposes), never shared with anyone, and using a different digital fingerprint/hash.
Of course the “creating a copy” command from Google Drive will only make a duplicate, which is 100% the same, no, you need to change any data in the file for it to have a different hash while using a MD5 software to check what it is. The easiest way to do this is using MKVToolnix and saving in Matroska, and then internally modify any track name.
Advantages: 1) Google Drive offers max upload/download speeds. 2) There’s no risk of the company going down tomorrow (unlike Dropbox and others which I doubt it will be around 10, 20 years from now); 3) Even if a file is hit with a strike, if you are the owner just log into your account/Google Drive and you’ll be able to download again (it’s just not accessible for the public). This isn’t possible with MEGA, once hit with a strike you either file a counter-notice or the whole thing is gone. 4) No expiration for account or files due to inactivity.
I once uploaded Cosmos 1x01 (HDTV rip) to my Google Drive account and never shared with anyone. Then I discovered it was hit with a strike. That was because this copy is shared worldwide. I reuploaded the file only by changing in MKVToolnix how the tracks are named, and voila! The file is to this date still there, years after this. It stopped being detected by their machines: https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-uses-hash-matching-detect-pirated-content/
For Google Drive there are 3 options for sharing: 1) public, 2) semi-private (only known if you tell someone the link to download, and after this you take a risk the rest of the world will find it), and 3) private. Even for personal documents I only use semi-private. The links for my contents I saved in a closed for the public (and not cached) blog hosted in blogspot.
As for Youtube be very careful of them. They are even less reliable. I shared an one minute clip from “Central Station” (the movie) only with the objective of showing how good the new Blu-ray is. The SOBs that own this movie hit me with a copyright strike! Of course I filed a counter-notice claiming fair use, but GOOGLE REJECTED without even forwarding to them. This was the 1st time ever I had a counter-notice rejected. The strike is still valid for a couple of months. So don’t commit the same mistake I did, to think a mere minute of a project you made being showed in Youtube will not be targeted by these cowards.
If needed put these videos in Google Drive, too, since it can display them and has another advantage: the streamed video is 100% lossless. With Youtube you’ll only see a reencoded version of it, with the lossless one 100% gone after you upload. Or try Dailymotion/a similar site.
Batman, Batman Returns (1989/1992)… haven’t looked into Forever (1995) and Robin (1997), but it’s unlikely they aren’t modified as well.
These for the 4K. Look at these caps, to see how they modified them, compared with the old Blu-ray (1080p) release.
Has anyone provided any Batman in 35mm? If not this is a much needed project.
Caps:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16488075&postcount=1392
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16485293&postcount=1349
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16484291&postcount=1319
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16483814&postcount=1298
RETURNS:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16484441&postcount=192
Wow, never heard of this until now… then again, after the Superman movies and their alternate cuts for TV this isn’t surprising. I sent you a PM (if you can share a link), I hope you could find this material in good shape, I’ve seen a few clips and they don’t look good.
Hello, I am also interested if you can share this version. It’s a shame the DC hasn’t been released in HD yet.
BTW, I heard this film exists in three versions:
(1.) The original 1979 theatrical version (132 minutes)
(2.) The extended 1983 home video version (143 minutes)
(3.) The 2000 director’s edition (136 minutes)
The Koch (german) Blu-ray was already released (March 14). However it’s the same crap again, apparently.
In Amazon.de they confirmed to be just like that Universal BD.
Here’s the comment from the Amazon page:
https://www.amazon.de/product-reviews/B07LD4P3ZS/ref=acr_search_see_all?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Peter V. says:
I just received this version and I must report that this is indeed the same, colour-drained, John Badham approved version from the previous Universal release and NOT the theatrical version with its lush, vibrant colours.
I’ll stick with the internet edited one, then, since no one wants to (or can) do a proper release.
Watched the copy sent to me and the whole thing is marvelous! First of all it was really a joy to watch this movie with the isolated score, sadly forgotten in all Superman sequels (only the 1st movie got that extra feature).
Second, the LD scenes have incredible quality and I wasn’t expecting this sort of care with them and everything else. I haven’t seen other fan edits from movies, this is the first one, however I doubt there could be something better than this.
As for they not adding the original score (and finished special effects in the deleted scenes from tornado/missile), I remember reading about this in an interview:
http://www.jwfan.com/?p=4066
THe disc is now on mega. PM for links.
Hi, may I have the link for the download?
I second that request! Really a shame Superman IV didn’t receive full treatment from the studios
I remember a guy posted a series of videos called “The Quest For Score” in Youtube and they were taken down (only saved a few). It was a good attempt to create an isolated score for the movie.
