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#1290198
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Batman (1989) 4K Teal Tint and SFX revision
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How is this link supposed to prove anything when I see a huge green tint in the picture from the scene in which the Joker shoots into the crowd and Bruce Wayne is just watching? This scene doesn’t look that way in any home video version, not even in the 4K.

It’s my belief these pictures don’t prove anything and they are either wrong or the source needs to be color corrected. In other words assuming the movie looks like this in 35mm is wrong and even assuming the 4K is supposed to look like this is wrong, too.

P.S. Found this good review in that OH video:


You’re pretty spot on in your assessment Oliver. The 4ks for all four are a disappointment and mere catalog updates for WB. The 4k UHD for 89 has less teal and is at least a better presentation than the 1080p remastered disc as that suffers from some of the same issues as the Matrix remastered Blu-ray.
You’re right that there is no official indication of any original crew members being consulted for any of the four transfers. They likely would have balked.
Even with the teal being more minimal in the 4k of 89 on the UHD it is still off. I agree the overall look is not what an original print looks like. However Returns is absolutely ruined with teal throughout and NONE of that is in an original print.

The audio is a disaster and ruins the effect of the mix of time periods in the film. The old SEDVD DTS you mentioned is good but like many dts dvd tracks is merely a few decibels louder than the Dolby track. The best sounding audio for 89 is still the old original mix releases on the Laserdisc and original flipper dvd. They have much more low end and still sound so good that it makes the Atmos totally unnecessary.
For years I’ve waited for properly dark transfers of the Burton films and new transfers for the sequels and this dumping out is apparently all we’re going to get. It’s extremely disheartening.

The audio for all three sequels are also remixes but less obviously so. It will still drive us fans nuts.

I had hoped that 4k revisits night finally mean the director’s cut of Forever would be released but I doubt that will ever happen unfortunately.


There’s also a guy claiming it’s the setup


Yeah I have a Sony X930E and the teal is only slightly more than the original. Nowhere near as bad as what he makes out. Everything else including sound is fantastic! Hardly any grain at all plus skin tones seem more accurate compared to bluray. Colours are much tighter and don’t bleed into each other like other versions. Maybe Oliver is just used to it a certain way and his TV oversaturates colours. LG and Samsung are notorious for that. Panasonic and Sony flagship TV’s are industry leaders for the most accurate picture.


Yep it’s definitely the TV, that is making the teal effect more prominent. Watched it on my other 4K monitor / TV and it’s Teal City! Shows you that you really do need great quality TV for real 4K clarity and colours. Batman Returns looks even better I think and yes same effect for the teal. On my Sony it’s not really noticeable. On the monitor it’s definitely kicked up a notch.


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#1289660
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Batman (1989) 4K Teal Tint and SFX revision
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I’ve been telling this for months; no one listened.

The 1080p Blu-ray audio (original mix) can be easily added to the Matroska-lossless 4K one, no resync is needed, even though some sources said a negative delay of 167ms should be added.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Movies-with-wrong-color-grading-UPDATED/id/15873/page/9#1284326

If there’s any doubt about how these 4Ks were changed then read the above link.

Oliver is 100% right. Remember what they did with all Superman 1080p Blu-rays?

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#1284729
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RoboCop: TV Edit HD Restoration
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MEGA will never be reliable. Avoid them at all cost. I am trying today to download some files and after 1.5 GB they want me to wait 5 hours to continue, otherwise I’ll have to use a paid account. I can rely on Ultrasurf or try other stuff but after a while this gets tiresome (and never work when we want). I need to download over 15 GB of data today, and this is my current situation… Then there’s the fact you never download or upload things from there at max speed. I always have to send more than one file/part using 2 browsers, to get good results.

I suggest Google Drive for backups and sharing. Create a copy to share with others (if you want you may even use a different Google account, I created additional others for me) and another copy for you (for backup purposes), never shared with anyone, and using a different digital fingerprint/hash.

Of course the “creating a copy” command from Google Drive will only make a duplicate, which is 100% the same, no, you need to change any data in the file for it to have a different hash while using a MD5 software to check what it is. The easiest way to do this is using MKVToolnix and saving in Matroska, and then internally modify any track name.

Advantages: 1) Google Drive offers max upload/download speeds. 2) There’s no risk of the company going down tomorrow (unlike Dropbox and others which I doubt it will be around 10, 20 years from now); 3) Even if a file is hit with a strike, if you are the owner just log into your account/Google Drive and you’ll be able to download again (it’s just not accessible for the public). This isn’t possible with MEGA, once hit with a strike you either file a counter-notice or the whole thing is gone. 4) No expiration for account or files due to inactivity.

I once uploaded Cosmos 1x01 (HDTV rip) to my Google Drive account and never shared with anyone. Then I discovered it was hit with a strike. That was because this copy is shared worldwide. I reuploaded the file only by changing in MKVToolnix how the tracks are named, and voila! The file is to this date still there, years after this. It stopped being detected by their machines: https://torrentfreak.com/google-drive-uses-hash-matching-detect-pirated-content/

For Google Drive there are 3 options for sharing: 1) public, 2) semi-private (only known if you tell someone the link to download, and after this you take a risk the rest of the world will find it), and 3) private. Even for personal documents I only use semi-private. The links for my contents I saved in a closed for the public (and not cached) blog hosted in blogspot.


As for Youtube be very careful of them. They are even less reliable. I shared an one minute clip from “Central Station” (the movie) only with the objective of showing how good the new Blu-ray is. The SOBs that own this movie hit me with a copyright strike! Of course I filed a counter-notice claiming fair use, but GOOGLE REJECTED without even forwarding to them. This was the 1st time ever I had a counter-notice rejected. The strike is still valid for a couple of months. So don’t commit the same mistake I did, to think a mere minute of a project you made being showed in Youtube will not be targeted by these cowards.

If needed put these videos in Google Drive, too, since it can display them and has another advantage: the streamed video is 100% lossless. With Youtube you’ll only see a reencoded version of it, with the lossless one 100% gone after you upload. Or try Dailymotion/a similar site.

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#1284326
Topic
Movies with wrong color grading *** UPDATED ***
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Batman, Batman Returns (1989/1992)… haven’t looked into Forever (1995) and Robin (1997), but it’s unlikely they aren’t modified as well.

These for the 4K. Look at these caps, to see how they modified them, compared with the old Blu-ray (1080p) release.

Has anyone provided any Batman in 35mm? If not this is a much needed project.

Caps:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16488075&postcount=1392

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16485293&postcount=1349

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16484291&postcount=1319

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16483814&postcount=1298

RETURNS:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=16484441&postcount=192

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#1282429
Topic
Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director's Edition HD Recreation (V3 Now Available.)
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Hello, I am also interested if you can share this version. It’s a shame the DC hasn’t been released in HD yet.

BTW, I heard this film exists in three versions:

(1.) The original 1979 theatrical version (132 minutes)
(2.) The extended 1983 home video version (143 minutes)
(3.) The 2000 director’s edition (136 minutes)

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#1273668
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Dracula 1979 - The original theatrical color version
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The Koch (german) Blu-ray was already released (March 14). However it’s the same crap again, apparently.

In Amazon.de they confirmed to be just like that Universal BD.

Here’s the comment from the Amazon page:

https://www.amazon.de/product-reviews/B07LD4P3ZS/ref=acr_search_see_all?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1


Peter V. says:

I just received this version and I must report that this is indeed the same, colour-drained, John Badham approved version from the previous Universal release and NOT the theatrical version with its lush, vibrant colours.


I’ll stick with the internet edited one, then, since no one wants to (or can) do a proper release.

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#1227259
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Superman IV International Cut
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Watched the copy sent to me and the whole thing is marvelous! First of all it was really a joy to watch this movie with the isolated score, sadly forgotten in all Superman sequels (only the 1st movie got that extra feature).

Second, the LD scenes have incredible quality and I wasn’t expecting this sort of care with them and everything else. I haven’t seen other fan edits from movies, this is the first one, however I doubt there could be something better than this.

As for they not adding the original score (and finished special effects in the deleted scenes from tornado/missile), I remember reading about this in an interview:
http://www.jwfan.com/?p=4066

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#1227039
Topic
Superman IV International Cut
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SupT said:

Booshman said:

THe disc is now on mega. PM for links.

Hi, may I have the link for the download?

I second that request! Really a shame Superman IV didn’t receive full treatment from the studios

I remember a guy posted a series of videos called “The Quest For Score” in Youtube and they were taken down (only saved a few). It was a good attempt to create an isolated score for the movie.