Awesome project. I hope as you work this project, please leave as much documentation as possible here. With edits of my own, I would love to make versions that utilize this.
Plazir looks WAY better… wow… those original shots, look like a college campus footbal field.
I’m just interested to actually see a version that people don’t try to make 2 and 1/2 or 245. I haven’t even watched the show, but from the bits I’ve seen, I thought to myself “I do not want to spend almost 3 hours on this story”. 2 hours, perfect.
I didn’t end up working on this much, and then we were so close to Season 2, I decided to wait to see what plots carry forward. And actually, my ideas haven’t changed much.
I want to do both seasons as 1 movie each. Now Season 1, I feel, to make it really work as 1 film, which it obviously isn’t made to be, I think it needs the radical restructuring that I’ve proposed here.
Season 2 however, I feel will work much better as a single film, without the need for any significant restructuring. Just a LOT of cuts.
Overall, my two movies will focus on, as I said before about the first one: Cassian, Mon Mothma, and Luthen.
I was not sure if I would include Syril and Deidra heavily, but now after seeing Season 2, they definitely have a place in the story. That plot developed in a great way. Both movies will include a lot of their plot as I think it is very meaty. But season 1, it will be harder to integrate with my non chronological structure. Still working that out. But, in my original post on this thread from last year, I said I would likely cut a lot of Syril in Season 1. No way that happens now, with how they delivered on that plot here.
I am aiming to likely cut Cassian’s friends from Ferrix in a VERY significant way. If they pop in here or there, they will just be as rebels. Any arcs focusing on Bix and Wilmon will be excised, only using them where needed in Cassian’s plot with the rebellion (the example I am thinking is when Cassian and Wilmon are escaping Gorman, that sequence will need Wilmon, but he will just be presented as a rebel). I don’t know yet if I’ll have any Bix, unless there are any significant moments like that where she is there. But if so, she’ll be presented the same way. I don’t think I will be including her as Cassian’s girlfriend. No grief against the actress, she’s great but I don’t find the character necessary.
In a previous comment regarding Season 1, I posted my struggle with the flashback to Cassian’s childhood in the jungle. I had come up with a great opening shot (cut from “A long time ago” and black screen, to the shot of the ship overhead smoking, crashing onto Cassian’s planet, really effective IMO), so I had become a bit attached to it. But I found it problematic in other ways, in how Maarva took Cassian when it really seemed unnecessary. Which, I don’t mind her character doing something morally dubious, the problem is the show doesn’t really address it ever, it goes nowhere. And now with the sister plotline not developing either… I don’t know if I will include the childhood sequence on his home planet, or any sister references. So I’ll have to come up with a new way to open Season 1.
For Season 2, watching those final episodes, I realized a GREAT opening to that film would be, starting with the flashback sequences of Luthen and Kleya. Then moving from that, to showing Kleya as an adult with Luthen, waiting to hear from Cassian. THEN cutting to Cassian. I think this will work really well.
However a large large large majority of the opening 3 episodes will be cut. So boring. Act 1 will setup Gorman, Act 2 will be the crisis ending with the massacre. Act 3 will be Mon Mothma’s escape to Yavin and Luthen’s death. And that will be it!
Just binged the last 9 episodes today. Similar to Season 1, it was very slow at parts, and then majorly picks up.
Stuff with side characters, not related to either Cassian, Mothma, Luthen, or Deidra/Cyril, I was basically skipping. Although I was trying to pay attention if any of it came to major relevance later, and honestly msot of it did not. I think any of the lesser arcs outside of those those characters can be almost entirely cut, outside of where they intersect with the main characters.
The act structure will be tricky, but this can definitely be made into ONE great film. Anymore than that would be stretching it IMO.
I don’t mind all the different title cards and such, but I really hate the Disney intro on everything where it flashes blue and red on all the helmets/droid faces. I think it’s tacky.
Agreed, it’s cheesy as an intro. The “Lucasfilm” is enough. Even better if, in addition to the LF logo, it would just start with “A long time ago…”
I feel there is… a lack of uniformity in the intros and title cards of various expanded content, among the different movie and TV shows. Obviously the Saga films have a clear uniformity. Blue text “A long time ago…”, STAR WARS, the crawl, pan down… and from that moment forward you are immersed into the story.
But I noticed back when Rogue One came out. A long time ago blue text… then cut straight to the story, which was definitely effective… but then at the end of the prologue, we then cut to a title card with its own unique style… kind of threw me off.
Then Solo comes out, A long time ago blue text, but then it continues with blue text to do its own variation on the intro text/crawl… I thought that was effective too actually. Then it does the same thing as Rogue One, towards the end of the prologue we get a title card… although this one is 3d inside a shot in the movie… kind of weird…
Then, not to mention all the different shows, all handle their intros differently… some more consistent with the Saga films, some less consistent. Mando does the R1/Solo format, the unique logo at the end of each episode’s prologue, and then the individual episode in blue text, sort of similar to the “Long time ago”. Boba Fett follows Mando’s format, prologue first, make sense, practically same show. Ahsoka follows prologue format as well. Skeleton Crew follows the prologue-titlecard format. Acolyte follows this same format.
Andor starts off with its show logo, a little more 3d than Mando’s, then it jumps into the episode and stays fully immersed in it. Obiwan follows the same format as Andor. So these two stand out from the others.
To me, one thing I think should be consistent… Star Wars should start with “A long time ago…” blue text, every single time. That should be Star Wars call sign forever (personally Id rather have that than the 3d character intro)… but beyond that…
Is anyone else bothered by the inconsistency of the title cards or am I just crazy? I am wondering, if there could be a uniform template that editors might be able to implement to these expanded shows and movies that will honor the Saga films while getting across what they need to, without having all these deviating styles (unlike the saga films which are very uniform)
I feel, we should have some kind of uniform logo IMO. And also, I think there should be consistency as far as, does the “Prologue first then the title card at the end” work?(Mando, R1) Or do we just need to do the title card before the story starts? (Andor, TCW). Do we skip the title card entirely?
And I’ll be honest, I am thinking about this in the context of, I prefer movie cuts for these shows. So for me, watching the whole series as a movie series, I would rather see a uniform style and title card with matching font (Maybe just differing colors? idk), that honors the style of the Saga films.
Awesome.
I have been wanting to go back into the crawls and remove the Episode numbers, where it is jst the film titles without being numbered, just cause I feel, with how big the franchise has grown, and how you might not even watch them in order, or you might watch stuff in between the episodes, the episode titles are a bit redundant
Judging by the first 3-episodes of S2, you’ve certainly got your work cut out for you with an Andor II 2.5 hour film cut!
Agreed
With the one year time jumps every three episodes is it even going to be possible?
You may have to break the 2.5 hour movie into quarters with the “one year later, BBY…” appearing each time
Not really. The time could be implied like a lot of movies do. Also the first three were so slow, you could easily knock out their plots within 20-30 minutes, make it apart of the 1st act.
Could I get a copy of this? Sounds amazing.
It’s been my ambition to do TCW in a smaller number of sub-2hour movies, designed to work with RotS. Like, only 2 or 3 movies before RotS, and then 1 more movie, set during and immediately after RotS.
From your description, this project sounds like almost exactly all the ideas for that RotS adjacent/post RotS film. I had also planned on cutting in battle of heroes with ahsoka like she can see it or imagine it. And i had also planned on cutting in the Padme funeral from Tales of alongside Vader on the snow planet for the ending.
You might have just done my whole job for me for that particular project!
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i would also cut the pep talk he had with the imperial tech before he stole the fighter since it didn’t really add anything important.
I think the scene itself is fine just to show how he got there (he had an insider). I would even leave, just a SMALL portion of the pep talk in there, like the “was it worth it?” line. That was okay. But yeah, it was like 2 to 4 minutes? I’ll cut it to 40 seconds. I think in a way, it also shows Cassian’s nature. He is giving her the pep talk so she does her job. But if it became clear she was threatening the operation, I think we all know what he would do.
Also cut the imps showing a retro video since it was too on the nose n@zi. Yes we know the imps are space versions, but flat out copying them is just too earthy for me.
Agreed, cringe. I could barely watch. I liked the rest of the meeting sequence otherwise.
I think almost all portrayals of “media” in Star Wars have been pretty much failures. I suspect there is a good reason Lucas DIDNT show us equivalents of TV/radio/etc. Star Wars doesnt NEED those things, even if people think they make sense in context. There isn’t one instance i can think of where an author or screenwriter has portrayed media in SW a way that isn’t cringy and unimmersive.
I think it would be nice to see the shape fixed. The color, I would find a halfway point. I think it should be just slightly more muted compared to animation.
Farm planet, boring, it’s gone.
Yavin 4, insufferable characters that are never once made relatable. It’s gone.
Mon Mothma plot, heavily, heavily trimmed.
Syril and Dedra… pretty good plot actually. Did not take up too much run time, scenes were punchy.
Is the current version of this available to watch? I would love if you could send me a copy.
Does this lean into some of the CGI shots that Adywan made for his old version? I liked those. IMO my dream version of the movie was to have Adywans old CGI shots, the George Lucas CGI shots, and SC38, and make a new “prequelized” version of ANH. I love the old special effects best, 1977, but I want a version full of the CGI stuff Lucas and fans have made, to have a version that fits in with the greater series.
Also, a deleted scene that is my dream to see, though we only have poor quality is “This Sith Lord”. Rogue One tie in and mention of the word “Sith” in ANH. Hope we get a better copy one day.
ANH-X version 1 will include 90% of the deleted restored scenes
based on adywans version so yes all his enhanced FX, but upscaled to HD
and yes the “sith lord” extended board room scene with clean audio is already done and will be included in the version 1
Wow, can’t wait to see it!
This is my most desired edit. My brother started showing my nephew Star Wars - Prequels first - would be amazing to have this for our watch through. No pressure though xD
Is the current version of this available to watch? I would love if you could send me a copy.
Does this lean into some of the CGI shots that Adywan made for his old version? I liked those. IMO my dream version of the movie was to have Adywans old CGI shots, the George Lucas CGI shots, and SC38, and make a new “prequelized” version of ANH. I love the old special effects best, 1977, but I want a version full of the CGI stuff Lucas and fans have made, to have a version that fits in with the greater series.
Also, a deleted scene that is my dream to see, though we only have poor quality is “This Sith Lord”. Rogue One tie in and mention of the word “Sith” in ANH. Hope we get a better copy one day.
So my wife and I watched, and we loved it! We were not bored at all. I have seen Boba Fett, but not season 3, and my wife hasn’t seen any of the series.
When Paz stood up and gave his speech in support of Din, my wife got so excited. Same with seeing Grogu at the end, and the Mythosaur. My wife doesn’t know names of stuff, but she was like “That’s the animal their helmets are designed after!”
I thought this movie was the first time I felt the story delivered on the premise of “The Mandalorian”. This feels like the first fully focused Mandalorian story.
I asked her if the Mandoa was too much at all throughout the movie, and she said it was not.
She couldn’t really give me specifics, but she did have feedback of “Parts felt a bit choppy.” Take that for what you will, maybe you can sus out what she means. She loved it overall.
I thought the pacing was excellent. The only minor nitpicks I have are, I don’t feel like Din would necessarily explain to Peli Motto that he is trying to redeem himself etc when asking for the droid that detect the toxicity or whatever it was.
The other thing is, I think the Mandoa works, my wife thought it was great. But I think if a line sounds great in basic/english, it should be considered to be swapped in for special circumstances. The one I’m thinking of is “Have you removed your helmet?” More that the actress’s delivery was really good on that, you could feel the weight of it. I am wondering, maybe she could say it in Mandoa first coming out of that conversation, but then the second time she says it in basic so the line really hits, that’s the one where the actress’s delivery really sells it. Idk if that’ll work but something for you to consider.
Otherwise, we really loved it. I told you in your chat, I was considering doing my own cuts of the series, which would essentially be like yours but cut in half. So your first 4 movies, would only be 2 in my version, which I’m still interested in. However, after watching this one, I might just leave your last movies 5 and 6 as is (depending on how 6 goes), because I thought this one was great! There wasn’t really anything major I wanted to cut.
Edit: OH! I forgot our biggest want… WE WANT BOBA FETT!!! We love Boba. I hope his modern story is a significant part of your Book 6, can’t wait to see how you handle that material.
Please send!
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Sounds legit 😂
We are ready for book 5!
Would love to see this if you don’t mind. I opened a thread a few months back concepting a similar idea (sub 2.5 hour cut of the whole season). But I was going to mess with the timelines a lot. Use the prison plot as the A plot, with the other plots cut around that, as flashbacks or otherwise. And cutting several things entirely, like most of his home planet (fennix, ferrix, something?) THat would include most of his buddies there like Bix, so im interested to see how integral they are in s2.
I did see one of your premiere’s on youtube for your visul novel project. I think that’s awesome. It’s not really my thing but as I was watching I had the thought of “This is the future of filmmaking.” You’re a pioneer!
I also showed my wife your Mandalorian series for the first time (1 through 4). She has not watched Mando/BOBF at all. She did enjoy it a lot, and said that she would not have given the TV shows a chance otherwise. Although she is similar to me, at parts we wanted it to move even faster (which I know most of the audience on here is not like us). The Mayfeldt plots in book 1 and 4, we felt could have been cut. However I know the runtime would have required you to restructure everything else to do that, so we arent gonna give you too much grief. But overall she wanted to commend the work you’ve done and thank you for making the series watchable.
We are excited to see 5 and 6! I have not even watched your old Book 5 because I am waiting for your new version. I am very excited because the Boba Fett stuff is my favorite.
An aside, after watching your Book 4 which introduces live action Ahsoka, we then watched Kai Patterson’s Ahsoka movie. That worked really well imo
I started watching your Mandalorian edit, I think it’s amazing! Although I don’t understand why you took out the farmers defence episode?. I feel like that’s what created the bond between Din and Cara. Just felt like there was no reason for her to risk her life for someone that she shared a drink with. As for Boba Fett, you ever thought of adding a time stamp or something for the time in between Return of the Jedi and rebuilding his life?
A short “X Years ago” at least for the sarlacc escpape would be cool.
For me, this would take me out of it. I get the idea but I think he does it well as is
Is Ahsoka pointless without Rebels? Because my wife and I really don’t want to sit through it, and I can’t find anyone who has condensed it significantly via edit. I mean I see edits, but I want to get the highlights in like 1 or 2 movies. Just whatever is relevant to Ahsoka
Really looking forward to this. I think too many edits that want to turn shows into a movie, end up making some 3 or 4 hour thing. 2 and 1/2 sound perfect.