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#282134
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Idea & Info: star trek the motion picture - preservation
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What about the subtitles? I didn't notice anything wrong with them. Thank god that you didn't change anything ...

I have downloaded the HD version from from BiT-HDTV (two TS files), is that the same source you used for your transfer?

By the way, what program did you use for the conversion? I have managed to convert those two TS files into one large MPEG2 file. Then I tried to convert it into DVD format with DVD Author, but that would take forever and my computer is not powerful enough to handle the process. Is there a way to just change the resolution of the MPEG2 file from HD to PAL, and convert it to DVD in a later process?

I already have the DVD-R version, I'm just curious about the process of converting an HD file into DVD. But I guess that you used a professional program that I couldn't afford anyway.
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#282080
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Idea & Info: star trek the motion picture - preservation
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Originally posted by: Mojo_LA
Please keep in mind, we weren't "redoing" effects just because we can, like Lucas did.


Yes, I know ... and I also know that many Trekkies think of the DE as a big improvement. I never intented to criticise you or your work. In fact, the new FX really do look great and have been incorporated very carefully. If I hadn't known the original, I would have never guessed that there are any new FX at all!

It's just that I don't think that a movie should be fixed such a long time after it's release. If it's one year later, ok ... but after 20 years I think it should be left alone as a piece of art that maybe had never been finished and is far from being perfect, but sometimes that's just the way it is. That's how I see it, anyway ... to each his own, I guess.

I only wish that the theatrical and the special longer version had also been released on DVD. All the bits and pieces are on the DE DVD, so surely all the source material necessary has been cleaned up and remastered. I think it would sell quite well ... Trekkies are completists, so there would definitely be a demand for it. Maybe you can pass that on to Paramount or whoever is currently in charge of the Star Trek DVDs ...
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#282013
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Idea & Info: star trek the motion picture - preservation
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To be honest, I'm not very fond of the DE version. I just think it's wrong to redo special effects some twenty years later. I like the theatrical version much more, and I'm happy that it has been preserved by the people on this board. And I'd still kill for the "Special Longer Version" in widescreen format and dvd quality ... maybe someday there will be an HD broadcast of this version as well ...
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#278004
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Info & Info Wanted: Star Trek Theatrical versions - question
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No, that wasn't his mother ... :-)

You not being a Trekkie makes me thank you even more for this wonderful DVD. I've been waiting for something like this for so many years!

The reason why I asked for the HD files or a dual layer transfer is just that I'd like that movie preserved in the best quality possible. I don't know much about HD and DVD conversion, but movies normally need a dual layer disc, right? I'm just a little worried that by shrinking the movie so that it fits onto a single disc results in a certain loss in quality. Or did it just happen to fit onto a single disc without shrinking after you converted it from HD to DVD? This is all so confusing ...

Anyway, the DVD looks great ... it's such a big improvement over my old VHS tape! A shame that the DE is the only version officially available on DVD!
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#277824
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Info & Info Wanted: Star Trek Theatrical versions - question
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@Jaiman Tuckuh:

As I understand, you have a HD version of The Undiscovered Country which seems to be the theatrical cut. Are you going to upload that one as well? Would be nice to have, just for the sake of completion.

BTW, what format are the HD versions before they are being converted to DVD format? Is there a loss in quality during the conversion? If so, is there any place where I could download the original HD files? Many questions, but I'm kind of new to this ...
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#276625
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Idea: Preserving STAR TREK - a preservation project?
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Originally posted by: Jaiman Tuckuh

"Heck, there used to be a debate about whether Kelsey Grammer's voice was in First Contact, as the captain of the Bozeman - until a guy pointed out that none of the captians replied. But I distinctly remembered hearing a reply in the theater--- wasn't on the DVD--- but its on the HD version! Muuuwahahahahaaaa!"
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I went back to clip the audio--- and it wasn't there... I don't get it... There is a Grammer-live voice earlier, aknowledging when the Defiant and Bozeman are ordered to fall back to position 3, but that's audible on the DVD. I've can't think of any other version it could've been on. I thought that VLC was playing tricks, so I ripped the audio to 6 wav files - nothing. PowerDvd started playing the DVD from the point I had been comparing to the HD... so I know I didn't swap places with a counterpart from a different timeline...

Maybe Paramont broke in and replaced the disc?

Anyway, I don't want to be the source of misinformation. So it's better to retract it than delete it.


Captain Bateson's voice is on every release I know of. The story goes that Kelsey Grammer phoned in his lines for FC because he was a huge fan of Star Trek.
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#276448
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Info & Info Wanted: Star Trek Theatrical versions - question
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Hi everyone,

I just found this forum while I was searching for the theatrical or extended version of TMP. As I see, someone seems to have uploaded the theatrical version ... but where can I download it? I'm not into newsgroups and such things, so has anyone put it on a torrent?

The idea of editing together the extended version using the delted scenes of the DE bonus disc is something that sounds very interesting. If someone is doing it, I'd definitely be interested in that too! But I'd be happy about a laserdisc rip as well.

Thanks and bye!