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#1435186
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<strong>The Book Of Boba Fett</strong> (live action series) - a general discussion thread
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I’m personally over all the spin-offs.

The reason Boba initially had a huge fanbase was he had the quintessential ‘less is more’ aspect. We knew very little about him aside from he was skilled, respected by Vader, and he didn’t fear talking back to him either.

A canon backstory or expansion only waters him down for me.

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#1408317
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There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point
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Fang Zei said:

We live in a post-#ReleaseTheSnyderCut world now, where something that no reasonable person thought would ever happen is now being financed to the tune of $70 million. The studios are all looking for ways to make money on the cheap with their business disrupted due to the current unpleasantness, and an OOT restoration would cost a small fraction of what AT&T is spending to finish the Snyder Cut.

My final input is Disney may be evil, heartless and fake-woke, but they aren’t stupid. They saw value in buying Marvel, Star Wars, and 20th Century Fox with huge aspirations in mind and these now look like genius moves. They’ve also lobbied to Congress to prevent Mickey Mouse from hitting the public domain. They didn’t gain their corporate power and influence by dumb luck.

When/if Star Wars hits the public domain many years from now, as far as I know, it means anyone can put Darth Vader into their movies or merchandise. The studio will keep the negatives, sources, and distribution rights, but it’s possible creating fan projects would no longer be piracy.

In short, they’ll release the theatrical cuts when they deem it best for business.

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#1407955
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There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point
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Fang Zei said:

On a long enough timeline, the unaltered versions get restored by Disney simply because they run out of ways to keep repackaging and reselling the same movies again and again without including them.

Agreed. I doubt Disney would release them out of the goodness of their hearts (although they’d market it as such), but rather because they’ve just about killed the golden goose.

As noted, the 50th anniversary is probably the soonest we can realistically hope for a formal release, but even then I doubt they’d spend much time on properly restoring it.

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#1407356
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There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point
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Fang Zei said:

As someone points out in the replies to that tweet, in May as much time will have passed since the release of TPM as had passed since the original Star Wars when TPM was released.

Anyway, 4k80 is roughly two-thirds done. Once it’s finished, the entire unaltered trilogy will be available for everyone to watch in not only full hd, but 2160p ultra hd as well. There won’t be any hdr versions (unless someone is working on that?), but this still feels like history repeating itself a little. A big reason the GOUT happened was because Lucasfilm realized how much money they weren’t making from all the fans who were acquiring fan preservations of the laserdiscs by downloading them for free or, worse, paying someone for a burned copy.

To be fair, it’s a miracle in itself that Lucas was willing to even release the GOUT DVDs and acknowledge the theatrical cuts existed at all.

I stand by my prediction that the unaltered versions will someday be re-released in my lifetime, but I also predict they’ll botch it with their restoration methods by adding too much DNR or frozen grain so the fan projects will keep being made.

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#1407354
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Vader's voice change in the OT
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KurganX said:

More comparisons…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlEG7awIuck

I always assumed it was done with tweaking, rather than re-recording the lines with JEJ or using different audio takes.

Honestly, I’ve never noticed the tweeking in the Special Editions.

Regardless, there’s still no doubt Vader’s voice in ‘Star Wars’ is different than his Empire and ROTJ voices; granted they each fit their respective movies.

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#1407158
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There should be a proper release of the 1977 Star Wars at this point
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It’s common sense Disney will do something huge for the 50th anniversary in 2027.

Most likely, there’ll be some massive box set released. Possibly the movies in 8K, if that’s a thing by then.

That’s probably the earliest we can hope for the original cuts to be released. If they aren’t released by the golden anniversary, then we can assume they won’t be as long as George Lucas is alive.

Then again, if they are released, it’s a good bet they’ll include all the restoration problems that came with the current versions.

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#1406738
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Vader's voice change in the OT
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Although James Earl Jones has consistently voiced Darth Vader in the movies, there is a difference in his voice between “Star Wars” and “Empire Strikes Back”.

It’s not necessarily night and day, but the more noticeable examples are:

“I want to know what happened to the plans they sent you.”
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TjiXJiAEn0)

versus

“the force is with you, young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet.”
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igx0nazlpfE)

I’ve wondered if it had to do the with the post-production equipment available or James Earl Jones growing into the role.

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#1405146
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Info &amp; Opinions Wanted: Choosing Between Various 4K Restorations
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If I may ask, because I don’t have D+80, is the restored footage mostly to replace the Emperor, the windows and fly overs of Bespin?

I figure ESB has the fewest amount of restored shots of the OT.

I don’t mean to sound ignorant of the projects and their efforts, but as far as restoring the unaltered footage goes - my understanding is we’re at the mercy of the 35mm print sources for the best available quality, short of someone breaking into the Lucasfilm vaults and stealing the negatives or interpositives.

Since Harmy is also using the new Blu-Rays and 4KXX as his primary sources for 3.0 , I wonder how much different it will be than the D+77/80/83 versions.

I also understand there’s a Skywalker Edition in the works, which looks absolutely stunning on Youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc9A54WgTrc).

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#1398411
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Info &amp; Opinions Wanted: Choosing Between Various 4K Restorations
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I suppose it all depends on what you’re willing to compromise.

Unless Mike Verta’s Legacy Edition is ever released and it’s everything he claims it to be, the 4KXX projects are the most pure restorations currently available with the highest resolution.

The versions without DNR have the least cosmetic work done but as a result, film grain is more prevalent.

There are some samples of 4K83 you can pull up on Youtube.

4K83 v1 (no DNR)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PTn_qmVaQSw

4K83 v.1 (DNR)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oRqmZAat4uw

The no DNR is preferable to me, although the DNR version is more colorful. I’m not tech savvy to advise on why that is.

You can also find multiple samples of 4K77 without DNR on YouTube.

This fan trailer for 4K77 might be DNR but I’m not sure.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9nRJMowas

If you have a smart tv, I’d suggest pull open the samples on your screen to get an idea of how’d they’d look.

Fan projects such as Harmy’s Despecialized that aim to recreate the original versions will look better, but some of the edits may not flow as consistent with the main HD footage. Other projects sourced from the Blu Rays/ UHD discs will also inherit whatever methods were used by the studios to clean and sharpen the images.

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#1397568
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Opinions Change
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I grew up with the mindset Phantom Menace was the worst of the prequels; which admittedly was influenced by the fan consensus.

I still don’t think TPM is necessarily a good movie, but of the three prequels, it felt the most like a Star Wars movie.

I had more fun at the theatre when they re-released it in 3D during 2012 than I did during the Avengers, Skyfall, and The Dark Knight Rises.

I also thought Attack of the Clones was awesome when I first saw it at my friend’s birthday party during opening weekend.
Nowadays, I find AOTC to be the worst of the prequels by a distant mile.

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#1393396
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Info: Mike Verta’s 4K Restoration - May 2020 Livestream
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Dunedain said:

Well, let’s suppose that someone decided, because it had not been done yet (again, supposing), to do a restoration of Gone With The Wind, himself. Now it turns out this fellow isn’t actually a fan of this movie because it doesn’t suit his personal tastes, he doesn’t care much for war/drama, etc. (however you wish to categorize the story) films. But he does recognize that it’s a very important film in the history of film making and so on, and feels it’s his duty as a film enthusiast with at least some of the skills needed to take up this challenge and restore it as well as he is able, using the best sources he can find. Mike doesn’t have to be a huge fan of films like Star Wars for him to recognize how important a film it is. In fact, it’s all the more impressive how he put such an enormous effort into this, even though it’s not quite his type of movie. =)

As to George Lucas. I read about a fan sometime back that was able to get invited to an event where George would be. I think it cost money, it might have been a ticket that was auctioned off for charity or whatever. Anyhow, he got to attend and he met George. He complimented him on his film-making and how much he enjoyed Star Wars and so on. Then, like a true Star Wars fan, he took the opportunity to ask George something like, “Hey, why not just also release the original Star Wars trilogy unaltered?”. George’s answer was along the lines of rolling his eyes and saying that they were his films, etc. George simply prefers the altered versions, apparently because they more seamlessly blend (Hayden, etc.) with the prequels and so on. Which I can see what he means, even if many of us fans would like at least the option to see the trilogy unaltered in the best possible quality. But George was quite clear in his answer, he wants the latest version of the Special Editions to be the ones that are on store shelves now. This clear response directly to a fan when asked, combined with the not subtle hints given by others at Lucasfilm, etc., makes it nearly certain that the reason the unaltered trilogy has not been fully restored (at least publicly) and released in a box set is because George doesn’t want it to be. And as much as I wish he would change his mind on that, I can respect that as an artist he wants his various alterations and also the way the two trilogies blend together now to be what is being offered for sale at this time. Even though I strongly disagree with some of those changes. Maybe he will change his mind, but for now, fan restorations are the only option. Fortunately, with the film scans now available for replacing altered scenes, those can be very good indeed.

well said, my friend 😃

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#1393090
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Indiana Jones distribution rights
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Prior to the Disney purchase of Fox, I read the distribution rights to all the Star Wars movies, aside from “A New Hope“, would have reverted to Disney in May 2020.

Does anyone know if Paramount owns the rights to the Indiana Jones trilogy (they can keep Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) in perpetuity or if they eventually go to Disney?