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#1398411
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Info & Opinions Wanted: Choosing Between Various 4K Restorations
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I suppose it all depends on what you’re willing to compromise.

Unless Mike Verta’s Legacy Edition is ever released and it’s everything he claims it to be, the 4KXX projects are the most pure restorations currently available with the highest resolution.

The versions without DNR have the least cosmetic work done but as a result, film grain is more prevalent.

There are some samples of 4K83 you can pull up on Youtube.

4K83 v1 (no DNR)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PTn_qmVaQSw

4K83 v.1 (DNR)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oRqmZAat4uw

The no DNR is preferable to me, although the DNR version is more colorful. I’m not tech savvy to advise on why that is.

You can also find multiple samples of 4K77 without DNR on YouTube.

This fan trailer for 4K77 might be DNR but I’m not sure.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JL9nRJMowas

If you have a smart tv, I’d suggest pull open the samples on your screen to get an idea of how’d they’d look.

Fan projects such as Harmy’s Despecialized that aim to recreate the original versions will look better, but some of the edits may not flow as consistent with the main HD footage. Other projects sourced from the Blu Rays/ UHD discs will also inherit whatever methods were used by the studios to clean and sharpen the images.

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#1397568
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Opinions Change
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I grew up with the mindset Phantom Menace was the worst of the prequels; which admittedly was influenced by the fan consensus.

I still don’t think TPM is necessarily a good movie, but of the three prequels, it felt the most like a Star Wars movie.

I had more fun at the theatre when they re-released it in 3D during 2012 than I did during the Avengers, Skyfall, and The Dark Knight Rises.

I also thought Attack of the Clones was awesome when I first saw it at my friend’s birthday party during opening weekend.
Nowadays, I find AOTC to be the worst of the prequels by a distant mile.

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#1393396
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Info: Mike Verta’s 4K Restoration - May 2020 Livestream
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Dunedain said:

Well, let’s suppose that someone decided, because it had not been done yet (again, supposing), to do a restoration of Gone With The Wind, himself. Now it turns out this fellow isn’t actually a fan of this movie because it doesn’t suit his personal tastes, he doesn’t care much for war/drama, etc. (however you wish to categorize the story) films. But he does recognize that it’s a very important film in the history of film making and so on, and feels it’s his duty as a film enthusiast with at least some of the skills needed to take up this challenge and restore it as well as he is able, using the best sources he can find. Mike doesn’t have to be a huge fan of films like Star Wars for him to recognize how important a film it is. In fact, it’s all the more impressive how he put such an enormous effort into this, even though it’s not quite his type of movie. =)

As to George Lucas. I read about a fan sometime back that was able to get invited to an event where George would be. I think it cost money, it might have been a ticket that was auctioned off for charity or whatever. Anyhow, he got to attend and he met George. He complimented him on his film-making and how much he enjoyed Star Wars and so on. Then, like a true Star Wars fan, he took the opportunity to ask George something like, “Hey, why not just also release the original Star Wars trilogy unaltered?”. George’s answer was along the lines of rolling his eyes and saying that they were his films, etc. George simply prefers the altered versions, apparently because they more seamlessly blend (Hayden, etc.) with the prequels and so on. Which I can see what he means, even if many of us fans would like at least the option to see the trilogy unaltered in the best possible quality. But George was quite clear in his answer, he wants the latest version of the Special Editions to be the ones that are on store shelves now. This clear response directly to a fan when asked, combined with the not subtle hints given by others at Lucasfilm, etc., makes it nearly certain that the reason the unaltered trilogy has not been fully restored (at least publicly) and released in a box set is because George doesn’t want it to be. And as much as I wish he would change his mind on that, I can respect that as an artist he wants his various alterations and also the way the two trilogies blend together now to be what is being offered for sale at this time. Even though I strongly disagree with some of those changes. Maybe he will change his mind, but for now, fan restorations are the only option. Fortunately, with the film scans now available for replacing altered scenes, those can be very good indeed.

well said, my friend 😃

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#1393393
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4K77 - Released
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Based on the provided info on 4K77’s webpage, 97% of the film comes from a Spanish print. If that’s accruate, I assume the other 3% is for the opening scrawl, end credits, and damaged frames?

I’m unsure about the audio source for the SSE, but is all the audio for 4K77 from the GOUT or does is some from prints?

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#1393090
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Indiana Jones distribution rights
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Prior to the Disney purchase of Fox, I read the distribution rights to all the Star Wars movies, aside from “A New Hope“, would have reverted to Disney in May 2020.

Does anyone know if Paramount owns the rights to the Indiana Jones trilogy (they can keep Kingdom of the Crystal Skull) in perpetuity or if they eventually go to Disney?

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#1392335
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What were your "I called it" moments?
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Immediately after I saw Force Awakens, I told my friend Episode 9 would have Kylo Ren turn good and sacrifice himself to save Rey; although I expected him to die by fiery explosion after sending her off in an escape pod.

I don’t know if these other two count because who was really surprised?

Boba Fett being resurrected as a grizzled anti-hero. Called that pretty much when the Madalorian was announced.

Senator Palpatine alter ego being Darth Sidious. 9 year old me deciphered this when I saw his name and picture on a pog when Episode 1 was released.

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#1391754
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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I don’t know if these listed are controversial. If anything, they’re pet peeves of mine.

Count Dooku using Sith lightning ruined the prestige.

“Who talks first? You talk first or I talk first?” is a more out of place line than “Ouch Time” or “Do you want to buy some death sticks?”.

There were too many Jedi in the prequels, which watered down their lore. I find it hard for Palpatine and Vader to fear a Jedi destroying them both when a battle droid and clone trooper could take one out.

Obi-Won’s “true from a certain point of view” explanation still felt like a retcon.

Darth Plagueis wasn’t that wise.

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#1391351
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Unpopular Opinion Thread
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I have five:

The Phantom Menace felt the most like a Star Wars film out of the prequels.

The Mandalorian is a mediocre show composed merely of fan-service and callbacks.

Boba Fett should have stayed dead in the Sarlaac pit.

The Last Jedi is the worst Star Wars film because it’s boring and has no rewatch value. Plain and simple.

The EU was basically professional fan-fiction, even prior to Disney’s acquisition

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#1387017
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Info: Mike Verta’s 4K Restoration - May 2020 Livestream
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I don’t recall exactly where Mike said it within the stream, but what stood out was he said he doesn’t necessarily care for the story or characters of Star Wars.

At this point, he’s doing this passion project to preserve the film’s history, including the award-winning work of the sound and effects crew that’s since been erased.

I don’t know if that’s the sentiment the community mostly shares, but in many ways, that perfectly sums up how I’ve come to feel about the series at this point in my life.