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#1387920
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Despecialized or the Special Editions; Which do you prefer - and why?
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I really appreciate Harmy and the rest of the gang for all of their work on Despecialized. It’s nice to have another option for watching the Star Wars Trilogy.

That being said, the Despecialized versions are a strange beast in that they are an “undo” of a “redo” as opposed to just going back to the original. I realize 4K77/4K83 were made available after Despecialized, but I much prefer those versions as they are closer to the original, unaltered movies.

I enjoy the Special Editions and the original versions as well. Now that I have 4K77, Despecialized, etc, the Special Editions aren’t a version of the film holding the original version back (yes, I am still clamoring for an official release of the original, unaltered trilogy).

I watched A New Hope on 4K Blu-ray recently and enjoyed it immensely. It was great to have a clean-up version of the film.

I also watched 4K77 recently and it was great to see the film in it’s original form. I loved the grain from the 35mm print.

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#1387918
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Opinion: Return Of The Jedi is Very Underrated. Do You Agree?
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I really don’t like the term “underrated” (or “overrated”) for that matter.

Calling something underrated without any context is not useful. What is it’s current rating? Are we assigning a numerical value for it? If it’s currently rated 8.1 but I think it’s an 8.2 is it still worth calling it out for being underrated? If we constantly call something underrated does it then become overrated?

I would prefer to just rate the film and keep it at that.

That being said, Return of the Jedi is my second favorite Star Wars film (behind the original) and is in my top ten films of all time.

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#1387258
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Richard Marquand's effect on Return of the Jedi
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JadedSkywalker said:

On one hand Lucas hated directing and that is why he gave it up. And on the other hand he hated to cede control of one of his films to anyone, except the exception being Steven Spielberg. He hated films going over budget, he hated the writing process and didn’t like the technological limitations in his way of achieving his vision.
Collaboration was a necessity but he didn’t like to do that either.

When it came to do the prequels he just decided the hell with it and wrote and directed them himself to avoid what happened on Empire and Jedi. Its his way or no way. It would have been the same for the sequels had he not sold to Disney.

That’s not accurate.

Dek mentioned Spielberg in the comment before mine.

Steven Spielberg, Ron Howard, and Robert Zemeckis were all offered the chance to direct Episode I and turned Lucas down.

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#1385715
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Favorite VHS/Laserdisc/DVD/Blu-Ray covers
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I think those ’92 covers are probably the best.

I’ve got a soft spot for the Special Edition covers as well. Having the covers on display in my office, I’ve been noticing how many elements are borrowed from the other movies, some of which have already been mentioned:

ANH:
I don’t think Leia had that hairstyle in ANH. (crissrudd mentioned this).

ESB:
Vader’s TIE is on the cover despite only being in ANH.
As Chaotic mentioned, the RotJ Emperor.
Vader is from a RotJ publicity photo.

Rotj:
Duel is from ESB
Boba Fett is from ESB?

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#1385153
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Richard Marquand's effect on Return of the Jedi
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Darth Dougal said:

Yoda wasn’t coming back originally? How on earth was that supposed to work story-wise?

I would need to check in the book (easier said than done, it’s pretty dense) but I think Yoda’s mention of the other Skywalker would just be folded into Obi-Wan’s dialogue - and the Luke/Obi Wan discussion would not happen on Dagoba. IIRC the idea was for Obi Wan to tell Luke that Yoda was now one with the Force.

I’m not sure if this script development took place before or after talk about the Force ghosts of Yoda and Obi Wan appearing during Luke’s duel with Vader. Not to mention the two Death Stars!

Back to the OP - I found an interview with Marquand that relates to your question:

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/richard-marquand-interview-return-of-the-jedi-star-wars/

Wonderful! Thanks for linking this. I haven’t read the JW Rinzler book yet, but I think it’s pretty safe to say Marquand made his own contributions to Star Wars.

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#1385151
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Complete Comparison of Special Edition Visual Changes
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That’s a great article, doubleofive. I would buy that set in a heartbeat (why not, I already have an entire media shelf full of Star Wars on VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, 4K Blu-ray…).

The Blade Runner set is an apt comparison. It’s a terrific set that sets the standard for home video releases.

On a personal note, I wouldn’t mind having an official release of something along the lines of D77+ or whatever it might be called currently. Basically the theatrical cut with redone/recomposited optical effects. I would absolutely not substitute the original theatrical cuts, warts and all, but it would be nice to have a “Special Edition-Lite” version where some of the more rough special effects were redone. If they could make everything just look “clean” (mostly getting rid of garbage mattes) that would be nice for an alternate version. I realize everyone would have a different opinion on what this would entail, but just figured I’d mention it.

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#1334230
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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StarkillerAG said:

Nibcrom said:

towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

Create an account on forums.thestarwarstrilogy.com. The D+77 and D+80 releases are there, along with several other projects.

Yeah, I’ve created two accounts there but I’ve never gotten my account approved by an admin so I can browse the forums. 😦

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#1334014
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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towne32 said:

Rodney-2187 said:

These new 4K HDR discs are the best I’ve seen these movies look and sound by several orders of magnitude.
I eagerly await the next Harmy Despecialized!

The D+77 and D+80 releases are quite great if you don’t mind less than 100% despecialization (some recomped shots, etc).

Where can I find more information on these releases (D+77, D+80)?

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#1328749
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Idea: Preservation of the uncensored (theatrical) audio track of 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade'?
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SpacemanDoug said:

What Jesse Owens line?

https://indianajones.fandom.com/wiki/Jesse_Owens

“Jesse Owens was supposed to be mentioned in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade with the Butler’s original line before Jones knocks him out as “If you are a Scottish lord then I am Jesse Owens!” It was changed to Mickey Mouse because the filmmakers thought that many people would be unfamiliar with who Jesse Owens was. The line as originally intended is retained in the film’s novelization.”

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#1318317
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4K77 - Released
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I watched 4K77 (non-DNR) last night. I was initially just going to skim the movie to see what it looked like, but I ended up watching the whole thing! It’s beautiful! Makes me question if the DNR version is even necessary. I watched it on an HD TV and it wasn’t even that grainy. Then again, I like film grain.