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towne32 said:

darklordoftech said:

timdiggerm said:

darklordoftech said:

moviefreakedmind said:

darklordoftech said:

If this article is anything to go by:

http://www.cinemablend.com/m/new/How-George-Lucas-Star-Wars-7-Ideas-Were-Used-By-Disney-69271.html

 What?

If they don't care about Lucas's treatments, no way they're going to care about his special editions.

 There's a huge difference between an unused script and a thing the public saw.

The OOT is also a thing that the public saw.

 Yep. This news about the script treatment confirms what that Disney is more interested in making proper decisions than appeasing George's personal wishes. Unless there really are technical hurdles making it unrealistic, I don't see why they wouldn't go the route of Blade Runner and Close Encounters and release an 'ultimate' set with all versions. 

 The difference between Star Wars and Blade Runner is that there are three movies with the former. The Blade Runner set was originally pretty expensive, especially when you consider some of the special editions that were also released.

Now try that with three movies that have 3-5 versions of each. The seemless branching would be extremely complicated and result in horrible compression on Blu-ray or 4K. It would be a compression artifacts nightmare, because instead of there just being additional scenes or alternate footage, the entire movies are different from the way each were were color timed and mastered. So you would literally need 3-5 streams of the same 2 hour movie on each of the discs. Plus all of the audio tracks everyone wants?

Blade Runner had 5 cuts on three discs, and they were able to narrow it down because three of the cuts were derived from the same masters, making the branching on those versions much easier because instead of having simultaneous streams of the same movie, they just had the video portions that were necessary for each cut. Star Wars is different because every one of the new cuts of the movie are totally different masters with different colors, as I mentioned before.

So you would have, at most, two cuts of the same movie per disc, and even that would be pushing it for the compression of an action-packed two-hour flick. That means each cut of the movie would be on it's own disc, more than likely. That would result in like a 15-disc set for three movies.

Not happening. Ever.

The most you're gonna get is the OUT and whatever the new edition is, whether it's a recomp of the 2011 edition or a new 2015 edition.

This is great work so far! Really enjoying watching this. It's strange how natural Star Wars feels as a 1930's-esque black and white film.

In the sake of constructive criticism, here are a few things I noticed.

- For the sake of consistency, the text in the temp. scenes doesn't flicker or have any telecine wobble like the rest of the video.

- The opening logo/crawl should only have one Star Wars logo. I don't remember which one it was in the original/real workprint. Maybe someone here does.

- The Star Wars themes in a bit too loud compared to the surrounding audio. Maybe bring it down about 10-15%.

- I'm not 100% sure, but I think the scene where Luke talks to his friend about him going off to join the Rebellion should come after the scene where he talks to Uncle Owen at dinner, since during that conversation he mentions being stuck there another season.

- This is more personal preference, but some shots, like some of the scenery in the Tuskan Raiders scene where Luke meets Ben, look far too sharp to be a faded workprint.

Can't wait to see the final product!

This would be the THX logo I'm thinking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SompK3nQ4Mk

Most people associate THX with quality so it'll have that familiar sense when you hear it, and still keeps that "George Lucas" feel since it's Star Wars.

There's also the DVD version, which could be altered to say "The preservation of sensation," and do the above part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-9CFg9rJD0

Maybe have the logo graphic be a play on the THX intro, with that awesome sound?

The sound creeps in, and as it crescendos, the "Project Blu )" logo above comes into focus, then the small text  below reading "originaltrilogy.com" and then the little shine that goes across it. 

Could I get an invite to MySpleen as well?

As for the scene with Alderaan exploding, there's a clip from the dailies in Star Wars: Empire of Dreams where you can see the cut where the planet disappears and here the director yell "BANG!" as the planet explodes. I don't know if you recall, but I think it would be an amusing piece for the workprint, especially the "bang!" line for the "purist" version. And you can also add that Leia line that TK mentioned.

Another good bit of advice I have is that if there are lines of dialog or music pieces where the volume fluctuates, GoldWave has a great "Volume Shaping" tool that can remove fade-ins/outs and allow you to draw the shape of the volume for bits or even entire tracks.