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#115419
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You came this close to Qui Gon being in the end of ROTJ...
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Since the Force Immortality of Jedi is central to the destruction of the emperor, I felt like I needed some explanation for it. It's not a standard force power like jumping far or even lightening, it's something only Jedi can do, and even then only certain Jedi. And the Jedi must learn the trick, although it appears that force strength is also important. So maybe Lucas could have spent a few seconds on the trick at the expense of that pointless special effects thrill ride at the beginning of the movie.

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#115417
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Anakin & Obi-Wan: The Friendship We Never Really Saw
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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
Yes, I was thinking the same thing the other day. A lot of time in "Revenge of the Sith" is actually occupied with last minute attempts to finally show the deep friendship they were supposed to have, which left much too less time for a plausible fall of a hero, because it's just too abrupt and the audience has to buy into the 'forced to turn evil to get the only chance to save padme' thing. I also wonder what kind of revenge there was to see in the film - especially in the light of understanding it as anakin's revenge (in analogy to the jedi's (anakin's) return in RotJ).


The Sith got revenge by destroying the Jedi and taking power. The problem is that in none of the prequels does Lucas ever explain what the Sith are or why they want revenge on the Jedi. We just get the standard cop-out that the Jedi are good and the Sith are evil. It's like a James Bond flick, we are told the bad guy is evil, but we never find out why he lives alone underwater, or where he got all his money from, or why he wants to destroy the world except that he lusts after power. If we want any background on the villain, we've got to read the expanded universe novels, which pretty much means that the movies are dependent upon the expanded universe, at least they are if the viewer want's more than a special effects thrill ride.



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#115414
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Why Kill Padme?
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Originally posted by: Zebonka
Christ oh Mighty, if you can believe in ships that not only perform impossible manouevers in space but also make a lot of sound at the same time (point being - no sound in space) then is it beyond the realms of possibility that maybe the Force (the thing that makes those Jedi able to do all that other stuff that's impossible) made Leia remember her mum? It really isn't that hard to imagine, but people need this sort of thing spoon fed to them these days. No imagination.


But we are never shown that Lea's memory of her mother is a "force memory", this is only an explanation that exists in the minds of Lucas apologists. All the movies show is that Padme dies right after childbirth, and then 30 years later her daughter, who was a few seconds old, remembers her.

Humans don't remember people and events until they are about 2 years old. Thus when we say things like "I remember my mum, she died when I was young" it's assumed by others that we were at least a few years old when mommy died.

Perhaps the midichorians remembered Padme for their host, Lea. Or maybe Lea used the force to remember her mummy. But we never saw any of this at all, nor was any of it implied. That's why it's called a continuity lapse.

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#115411
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Why Kill Padme?
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Lucas wrote himself into a corner, that's why Padme dies. He finished two films and then realized that he hadn't set up Anakin's fall to evil, so when it came time figure out why a whiney, bratty teenager will transform into a bloodthirsty, kiddie-slaying lapdog of Palpatine, Lucas got desperate and went for the old "he loves his wife so much he'll turn evil to save her" routine. But then Lucas realized that if Vader loved his wife so much, the audience would expect Vader to go searching for her, even if he had become evil! Maybe he'd want to show his love by doing EVIL things to her instead of pornographic things, but nevertheless, Lucas was trapped. Padme had to go.

It would have made more sense for Anakin to desert Padme in his fall to evil, since wife lovin' isn't generally considered an evil act. Anakin and Padme could have just had an argument and Padme could have fled when Anakin started in with the domestic violence, like maybe after he jolted her with force-lightening.

Or Anakin could see the future and in it Padme would be laid out in front of a TeeVee like a beached whale, totally fat and stuffing her face with Bantha Rinds. Anakin confronts her and tells her he's leaving her for a hotter broad, and when Padme tells him she's pregnant, he says, "too bad, bitch, go get an abortion!" Then he force-squeezes her uterus in an attempt to kill her babies. That would be far more EVIL than how he loves her too much in ROTS.
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#115409
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Hayden aka anakin
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/115409/action/topic#115409
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Originally posted by: Seiji
Just because you like Star Wars doesn't really make you a geek, does it?

I like Star Wars, and I've never had too much of a problem hooking up with the laaaaadies. There is some strange Star Wars stereotype lurking about ... and I don't like it!

I like to think of myself as one hell of Jedi, who has one hell of a lightsaber ... IN MY PANTS!


Just because you're a geek doesn't mean you don't get the laaaaaadies.

I meant geek in a good way, sorry if you were offended. I've always considered myself a geek and I guess I just don't think of it as bad. And yes, I've had lots of women - but not enough.



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#115398
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Hayden aka anakin
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Heh, this thread slays me.

I'm new here so I wont pass judgment on the broad. Maybe the poster behind those racy messages really does have a beautiful ass and sexy legs. I enjoy thinking that she does.

But if the poster really is a hot little piece...what a slut! Teasing random SW geeks on the internet? Girl, how do you know someone here isn't a dirty old man who's tracked your IP and will show up at your place next week in a trenchcoat with a little rod poking out? At least be a little careful with that hot ass act of yours.

SW relevance: Yeah Portman is hot but she never shows much skin in the PT. Props to Marquand for getting Fisher into that S&M outfit in ROTJ, that was a real treat. I'll be she was coked-up in that scene, too!



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#111506
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Star Wars Episode 0?
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I know this is probably BS, but I actually like the idea. The PT installments have gotten progressively better as Lucas gets more practice at making movies after his 20 year hiatus, so an "Episode 0", if it followed the trend, would be even better than ROTS. What I find most tantalizing is that we may actually learn something about the Sith beyond the pathetic sketches of their history in the PT.

When I first heard about the PT I was stoked over the idea that we would not only get to see a time when dozens of totally bad-ass Jedis kept the peace and order, but we would learn more about the origins of the Sith. Unfortunately Lucas dissed me on both counts. The PT never shows the Jedi kicking serious ass, although in most of TPM the Jedi get punked, and a young brat accidentally does what the Jedia couldn't do for the whole movie; AOTC is even worse, since it shows us that Obi-Wan's character from ANH is actually a bit dumb (needs the younglings to explain the obvious to him about a missing star system and cheerfully strolls into ambushes) and not much of a Jedi (gets his ass beat by non-jedi like Jango Fett, lets a non-jedi assassin give him the slip, and on and on). The worst of AOTC for me was that Yoda turned out to be weak in the force, when he couldn't apprehend a two-bit villan like Dooku. In fact Yoda never learns anything of substance from his meditations with the force until ROTS, and then we learn of his communion with Qui-Gon only in passing! The overall effect of the PT was to diminish the stature of the Jedia. We are told that the Jedia kept peace and order for over a thousand years in the old republic, but as it is with too many characters and plotlines in the PT, Lucas never shows us that the Jedia are bad motherfuckers; he simply makes them into the "good guys" having equal fights with the bad guys.

I'm not saying that the Jedia should have kicked ass through the entire PT, since that would obviously be inconsistent with what we know happened. But it would have helped build character, and created more audience sympathy for the Jedi, if in Episode I we were shown what the Jedi were like at the peak of their powers. If Lucas can do this with an Episode 0, he could immensely improve the entire Star Wars saga.
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#110261
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What kind of Jedi are you?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/110261/action/topic#110261
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Jedi Master.

But in a few questions none of the answers applied to me, so I had to pick the least revolting. Since I don't regularly watch TeeVee, I'm at a bit of a loss for favorite shows. My favorite shows are Real Time, The Daily Show, The Sopranos, and Chappelle's Show. Ooops, none of these are choices! Then that stuff about fighting over what to watch...never happens. I usually go read a book or hit the internet, which aren't choices. Sigh. It's tough being a Jedi Master!

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#110145
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Should Lucas replace Guiness with an aged McGregor?
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Remaking Star Wars, if done by Lucas, would just replace all the fleshed-out characters of the OT with a bunch of cardboard cut-outs, surrounded by a sea of CGI eye candy/merchandising tie-ins, all with muddled plots and lame dialogue. These would be even more awful than the PT, because we have the OT already an know how good it can be!

The special effects aren't what made the OT last, anyways. It's the story and character development that make the OT such a monumental sci fi epic. Yes the fx were excellent for their day, but even so they were used sparingly and usually moved the plot forward. As the PT shows, Lucas only used the fx sparingly because he had no other choice, give him a full buffet of fx with an OT remake and he'll load his plate up with everything on the freakin line.

My biggest problem with remaking ANH would be Solo and Obi-Wan; these two characters carried the film and Lucas could never replace them. Ever. In all three prequels, with a fine actor, Lucas has not been able to match the Obi Wan of the OT. Lucas has consistently throw away some of the best actors alive in the PT, for example, Liam Neeson never got a chance to shine even though he played one of the most influential Jedis in the entire series.

Lucas is done. I'm happy we got ANH and ESB, and although they reflect the time period in which they were made, that is part of their charm. The PT will one day show its age (in fact TPM already is showing its age with cartoonish CGI compared to ROTS). This is the nature of any art, and good art SHOULD reflect the cultural period from which it originated.

Ok, sorry for the rant, but in case it isn't apparent already, I have a low tolerance for flashy special effects. IMO effects should be seamless with the movie and the viewer shouldn't even realize their happening - full immersion. Like the first Matrix film. Effects should always move the story forward or add to character development. Lucas doesn't understand any of this.