In the scene where an officer approaches Tarkin and says something to him (before Leia is brought to Tarkin), you could do a voice over of the officer asking “Can I go to the bathroom?” (or any funny/silly request) and Tarkin raises his hand and says “Yes”, or
The officer goes to Tarkin and says “Simon says raise your left hand.” followed by Tarkin raising his hand.
Obi Wan: Tell Obi Wan young Luke, what brings you out this far?
Luke: This little droid.......He claims to be the property of an Obi Wan Kenobi.......do you know who he's talking about?
Obi Wan: Obi Wan Kenobi? Obi Wan. Now that's a name Obi Wan not heard in a long time....a long time...
Luke: I think my uncle...
Obi Wan: A long time....
Luke: I think...
Obi Wan: A long time....
Luke: I think my uncle knows him. He said he was dead.
Obi Wan: Oh he's not dead. Not yet.
Luke: You know him?
Obi Wan: Well of course Obi Wan knows him. He's me. Obi Wan hasn't gone by the name of Obi Wan since before you were born.
Insert the "The White Zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only..." when Vader and Palpatine's shuttles enter the Death Star and in the Rebel hangar after the briefing.
Ben: That is why your sister remains safely anonymous.
Luke: Leia...Leia's my sister.
Ben: (insert Ric Olie's line) You catch on pretty quick.
Hi.
Nice edit, more or less what I had in mind. The scene looks and flows a lot better without all the campy dialogue. Of course there is the problem of the disappearing/re-appearing hologram of Endor when switching between Ackbar, Madine and back to Ackbar. Any ideas on how to fix it?
Possessed said:
Well, if anybody cares I've decided to just use the blu ray track.
What do you think of removing the whole notion of a "strike team" being mentioned in the briefing scene? I'm thinking also of completely removing han, leia, chewie, and all "familiars" from that scene and have it just be a brief rundown of the plan, showing the aforementioned characters but not having them speak, because everything they say is unbelievably hokey and campy.
Or maybe mentioning the strike team, but not having it directly said that Han is captain and all the "General, count me in" moments. I'm hoping it will work to just mention that there IS a strike team, and having the audience infer who it is when we see them all together in the imperial ship. Even if the audience doesn't infer that, it's not really a loss to the story.
Any opinions? Interest in this edit seems to be fizzling out, but that's probably my fault due to the on again off again nature of me with this project. For what it's worth things in my life have settled down and I'm nearing completion of my musical project I've been working on (Non SW related) so I will have some of my "creative" time freed up soon.
Your first option sounds a lot better. The scene should only focus on Mon Mothma, Admiral Ackbar and General Nadine (i mean..Madine). All that hokey and campy dialogue just distracts the audience from the importance of that scene.
Suggestion: if it is possible to arrange the scenes, after we see Ackbar on the upper deck, cut the dialogue between Han & Lando and go straight to Mon Mothma's scene. She calls on Ackbar. After his line "the sheild.....before attack is to be attempted" insert the part where he calls for Madine. After Madine's line "a strike team....deactivate the shield generator" continue with Ackbar's dialogue from "once the shield is down....knock out the main reactor". After the flash that ends the hologram, you could then transition to the docking bay scene. Since Luke mentioned earlier that he'll meet them back at the fleet, it would explain why he is in the shuttle with the other.
Personal thought: I think that making Han and Lando generals was an attempt to show the transformation of these two characters from selfishness to selflessness, from struggling for personal gain to struggling for a greater cause. It is a common feature in various mythologies. I guess it could be one reason why Han was originally intended to die in ROTJ as part of his self sacrifice.
Darth Solo said:
fairuz hidayat said:
Thanks Akratus, Ryan, Darth Solo & emanswfan for your comments and suggestions.
I aint offered any suggestions as yet......i dont think?
True. Suggestions, not yet. Comment, you did...well...sort of...i think... :-)
darth_ender said:
I have long been a proponent of making a PT with a live-action I and III and an animated II based on The Clone Wars TV series. A setup like this might allow that pretty well, if the idea interests you, fairuz.
That is an awesome idea darth_ender. A good way to deal with the mess that was AoTC haha. Of course it would require someone who has followed the series closely to identify which scenes from which episodes to use. Has anyone attempted this before?
Akratus said:
Sounds very good. But I'm a little worried then that AotC might lose some key scenes then. Though I understand it is necessary to enforce menace, it being as flimsy as it is. How do you propose to rearrange AotC with this in mind?
Perhaps this would be too radical, but maybe you could consider making this into a duology? We've all felt at one point or another that it would be wiser to simply take the good bits we have, and discard the dead weight so we can at least make one or two good movies. What if you split the AotC up to enhance the other two?
Your PT duology idea sounds interesting Akratus. I personally prefer to stick with the 'trilogy' approach.
The general idea for my AoTC edit is that the war btwn the Republic and the Separatists has already begun. I'm still working out the details. One thing's for sure, there won't be any Kamino/clone army mystery. Obi Wan goes to Kamino to inspect the next batch of soldiers. The Anakin-Padme romance will of course be trimmed and toned down. The focus of the edit will be on Anakin and the events that trigger his fall (i.e his conflict between his feelings for Padme and his duty as a Jedi, the death of his mother...)
Ryan McAvoy said:
Wow putting Jar-Jar's senate scenes in TPM is an awesome idea, wish I'd thought of that. Extra gravitas for the character as you can add subtitles of him arguing the case for Naboo. Like I said, thinking outside the box!
Jar-Jar is a Prince in my cut (Son of Lord Nass).
Rotoscoping Kenobi's sabre from green to blue in the Maul fight took me ages... good luck with that :-)
Luck? I'll need a miracle, haha :-D
Interesting idea about using Jar Jar's senate scene to make a case for Naboo.
My original intention was to place the scene after the battle of Naboo. Jar Jar would propose giving Chancellor Palpatine emergency power. Palps would then announce the creation of the army to counter the separatist threat thus setting in motion his plan to rule the galaxy and destroy the Jedi. Bringing this scene to TPM would also help eliminate the whole Kamino/clone army mystery theme in my AOTC edit.
I'm also toying with the idea of moving Dooku's meeting with the separatist leaders in AOTC towards the end of TPM. Maybe place the scene before or after Jar Jar's senate scene to make it look like a reaction to their defeat in the battle of Naboo. Therefore the Separatist's pledge to combine their armies along with the scene where Palpatine announces the creation of the Republic's army would (hopefully) create the atmosphere of an impending war in the Republic.
Thanks Akratus, Ryan, Darth Solo & emanswfan for your comments and suggestions.
My edits are currently on hold at the moment due to work and family commitments. I hope to get back to the edits soon. Your feedback has given that added motivation.
Akratus: That's a great idea. I did toy with idea of using Coruscant in the opening scene after the title crawl. However i couldn't find a suitable clip to use for the pan down shot.
Ryan: I'll give your idea for the ROTS opening scene a try. As for TPM, we seem to have a quite similar approach to many issues in the film. I'll be adding subtitles for the alien characters, though I don't know how to do dubbing yet. Jar Jar will be a senator in my edit (i'll be adding his AOTC senate scene towards the end of TPM). Anakin also turns into a hero in my edit. The final battle and Obi-Wan vs Maul scenes are also redone but the latter will need some rotoscoping to change the color of the lightsaber.
Bester said:
I visited a brewery the other day. I found it interesting, as I had never visited a brewery before.
It was my first step into a lager world.
.........*tumbleweed*...........
Har har. Nice one.
chyron8472 said:
Some of the cuts are a bit rough, but I like it.
I liked the way you worked the Palpy dialogue at the end of the Death of Dooku clip.
I also like Obi-Wan being the first voice/face we encounter in ROTS.
Thanks for the comments chyron,
I'll work on the rough cuts during my second run of editing.
For the ROTS Opening Scene, it was an attempt to address the issue of the "nothing there suddenly there's a huge battle" haha. Also wanted to get rid of the buzz droids scene as well as trimming out unnecessary dialogue.
Did the same for the Dooku scene ("Sith are our speciality...My powers have doubled....etc).
Palpy's dialogue in tempting Anakin to kill Dooku was trimmed and done off screen to hopefully give a better impression of Palpy's manipulation and temptation of Anakin.
Hi all,
Taking a break from my TPM edit for a while to start edits on AOTC and ROTS.
Thought I'd share a couple of draft edits from ROTS.
1. ROTS Opening scene:
2. Death of Dooku:
nimd4 said:
fairuz hidayat said:
I just began my first attempt at video editing (which is basically trimming/cutting scenes). Hope to create my own Star Wars fan edit once I get the hang of things.
Hi, this is my first post here & while I most certainly encourage as many people as possible to get into video production / editing, I strongly believe that Star Wars have reached their maximum - as far as fan-edits are concerned..;)
There had been some really awesome ones, including SW EP 1: Shadow of the Sith by L8wrtr (and others) && there really isn't any more room; anywhere, there. =)
PS.
I've (almost, once :)) graduated Film Production @ Intercollege, Nicosia.
Hi. Thank you for your comments :-)
While I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with you. For me there can never be too many Star Wars fan-edits. The Star Wars films are like a "sandbox" for video editing. There are so many different ways that one can edit the films depending on his/her perspective.
And it's these awesome fan-edits done by the likes of l8wrtr, Q2, ADigitalMan and many others that have inspired fans like myself to experiment on editing the Star Wars films from our own viewpoint.
timdiggerm said:
Although I really like the idea, the way it works right now is a little problematic. One establishing shot of the Jedi's ship, and we abruptly cut to a room of characters we've never seen, who talk for a bit, and then right back to that spaceship. If you can move the Palpatine's office scene to a little later, perhaps introducing those characters better, that would help a lot. I do like the idea, though, other than losing Valorum.
Thanks for the feedback. You have a good point there. I did consider inserting the scene later on but couldn't find a suitable spot. I could re-insert the rest of the meeting room scene where Qui-Gon & Obi-Wan mention about the negotiations. That would at least show the link between the two scenes.
Currently working on editing the Obi-Wan vs Maul duel. As with other fan-edits, I'm trying to make Maul's death a bit more believable.
Greetings,
This is the revised intro to my planned TPM edit. Starting the whole project from scratch. Had problems with the computer and lost all my files.
Anyway, I imported the scene in Palpatine's office from AOTC where he says the line "My negotiations will not fail." I thought it would be a good addition to the opening scene in TPM since Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are on their way to negotiate with the Trade Federation.
Of course, this results in some changes to the film: 1) the Separatists are mentioned in TPM, and 2) Palpatine is already the Supreme Chancellor in TPM.
I'm also working out the possibility of including Dooku's meeting with the Separatist leaders on Geonosis into TPM. This is to have Dooku introduced earlier in the PT rather appearing in the later part of AOTC & getting killed early on in ROTS.
Bingowings said:
Keep practicing Fairuz.
It might be an idea to work out a manifesto for your Star Wars edits.
Figure out the bits that work for you in the whole series and why and apply it across the board and see how it comes out.
Thanks for the advice Bingowings.
I'm still working out the details for the whole PT edits.
For TPM these are a few of the ideas I currently have in mind:
Obviously many of these ideas have already been done in other edits. I just hope to present these ideas from a different perspective.
aalenfae said:
You've got some great cut ideas!
Of course, I totally understand you're just starting out - so I'll forgive technical details.
But the ideas themselves are great! I like cutting out the "The ambassadors of the supreme chancellor wish to board immediately" shots, as well as your lovely cut of the atrocious intro to Anakin. It works much more... naturally now. It feels more like Star Wars. Good job!
Thanks for the encouragement. I really appreciate it.
Been busy lately with the start of a new semester here. Managed to squeeze in some time to work on another editing experiment for TPM.
This one is the scene from Qui-Gon's first encounter with Maul and the Anakin-Obi Wan intro. Personally, I always felt that Anakin and Obi-Wan meeting for the first time should have been more significant (maybe adding relevant OT music). Instead we get a "You're a Jedi too? Pleased to meet you."
I also moved Maul's Force flip towards the end the duel so that the next scene where he stands up (after supposedly being pushed from the ship's ramp) looks he is standing up after landing from his somersault.
Again, excuse the less that perfect cut.
fishmanlee said:
Some interesting cuts, I would work on crossfading the audio (having the audio smoothly fade from the first clip into the next).
Thanks for the comment and advice. I'm not quite familiar with audio editing yet. Still learning the basics of video editing.
This next vid is my take on the introduction to Anakin scene. Did a few cuts and rearrangments. The idea is for Padme to introduce the audience to Anakin rather than him saying "I'm a person and my name is Anakin".
Hi everyone.
I just began my first attempt at video editing (which is basically trimming/cutting scenes). Hope to create my own Star Wars fan edit once I get the hang of things. Just thought I’d share my first experiment using the first few minutes of TPM:
I used VideoPad Video Editor. It’s quite user-friendly for beginners like myself.
I agree that it's a good idea on how to end the trilogy. However, my opinion is that by that time Star Wars had already become a global cultural phenomena, especially among children. If ROTJ were to have ended the way Mr. Kurtz suggested, it might probably have left thousands of depressed or emotionally disturbed kids, haha.
So, in the larger context the decision to have a happy ending was best for all. Of course, as most/all of us agree, the way Mr. Lucas chose to create that happy ending to the trilogy should have been done a lot better...
Hi Bob. Your fan edit previews looks great. Can't wait to see the final product.
Just a thought:
Instead of the "Good, Anakin. Good", would it be more effective if after Anakin defeats Dooku, Palpatine immediately says to Anakin, "Kill him", and when Anakin hesitates he says "Now." then Anakin decapitates Dooku?
Greetings,
In my opinion the force-lightning backfire felt like a simple shortcut for Lucas & Co. to explain Palpatine's white and wrinkly face.
For me, Palpatine's character throughout the Prequels was all about 'manipulation'. He manipulates the other characters in the films, he manipulates the Senate, he even manipulates the Jedi.
I brought this idea up in another forum topic: It would have been more interesting if he manipulated how others saw him using the Force to hide his true face. When Mace and the other Jedi came to arrest Palpatine, he would reveal his true face to them, catching the Jedi off guard and easily killing the other Jedi.
In the scene where he addresses the Senate after the incident, he again 'manipulates' them by saying that his deformed face was the result of a Jedi assault.
"LOVE that idea.Very cool.
I guess maybe it could be achieved through some morphing type special effect?
But then how would the remainder of the scene play out? Would that only be a momentary reveal or would the evil face be there throughout the battle and Anakin's turn?"
Thanks for the response. The reveal could go either way:
1.The momentary reveal would be a cool way to catch the Jedi off guard as he attacks them. The Force lightning part of the Mace-Sidious duel would still need to be removed. Once Mace has been killed, Sidious reverts back to his true evil/deformed face as he talks to Anakin.
2. His evil face could remain from then on since his true identity has already been discovered. The Force lightning part of the Mace-Sidious duel would be removed as well. (The problem would be to maintain his evil face throughout the duel).
Later Sidious could then manipulate the Senate (again) by lying that his deformed face was the result of a Jedi attack.
Greetings,
Just to share a thought & get your ideas. Maybe it could be used in future fan-edits. This one is regarding Palpatine/Sidious' appearance.
Ever since watching ROTS it always bugged me that Palpatine's deformed face in the OT was the result of his own Force Lightning deflected off Mace's lightsaber.
Might have been more interesting if his face had always been deformed like that (probably due to his strong practice of the Dark Side). But through the use of the Dark Side of the Force he was able to manipulate how others saw him (i.e cloud their vision. After all, he used manipulation throughout the PT).
Of course the tricky part for a fan-edit is 'how to reveal his deformed face?' One idea (if technologically possible), is that he 'reveals' his true face after he says "I AM the Senate.." when Mace comes to arrest him. This would add the element of surprise to his attack, catching the Jedi off guard (Dark Lord of the Sith or not, the Jedis died too easily in that scene).