Mrebo

Happy New Year one and all

Betty White

Here is my rough draft of meeting Anakin. Would love any comments.

https://streamable.com/q62z0b

This was a fun watch. I liked the crawl. Some things that I would have thought would feel too abrupt if cut actually worked well on screen. The jump to the Gungan City played decently as an added humorous moment. Maybe a musical element would emphasize that. Removing visuals of the podrace announcers works great. By removing a lot of the preamble to the race, the scene with Shmi telling Anakin to be safe was able to project more heart. Removing the Padme decoy ploy was a more surprising cut but narratively works. All in all it flowed well and it was coherent.

The flashbacks were great. The kind of stuff I’ve waited for. My biggest complaint is for the poorly written/cast minor characters, starting with the mayor’s majordomo. At least do an accent! I rationalize it is the price to pay for a live-action TV show on a budget and what we would have gotten in any decade. The monster was good, almost looked like an old claymation. I’ve nitpicks like Tuskens in black and lean Gamorreans (I hope Boba Fett feeds them well and lets them take a well-deserved nap). It was great to see Max Rebo and I hope we see more of him, even a spinoff.

Eyepainter said:

Mrebo said:

Thank you for the supportive comments 😃

I’ve taken a quick run at Meeting Anakin/Watto’s Shop. It needs polishing and maybe more trimming but I think works telling the story. Is a 4:20 (no pun intended) clip too long to share?

I’m curious about your work Eyepainter.

I’d be happy to send a PM if you’d like. Just say please.

I’m not sure how long is too long, but I did post a link to a 6-minute YouTube video I created detailing changes I made for my Terminator 2 fanedit. I haven’t gotten in trouble for it, so I think a 4:20 clip is probably okay. That is, unless the clip in question is offensive or obscene, but I doubt a clip of Episode I is gonna do that. I would say Jar Jar is obscene, but I think my definition is different from the moderators.

Thor meme with text “is it though?”

Maybe I’ll bleep Jar Jar’s lines and blur him out to make it family friendly 😉

It would be a third scene featuring Jar Jar I’ve posted…

I like the red saber idea. I’ve considered Obi Wan using the force to propel a saber to cut Maul in half, then jumping up after Maul’s halves tumble past him.

Thank you for the supportive comments 😃

I’ve taken a quick run at Meeting Anakin/Watto’s Shop. It needs polishing and maybe more trimming but I think works telling the story. Is a 4:20 (no pun intended) clip too long to share?

I’m curious about your work Eyepainter.

First of all, hello (again, to old friends).

I’ve been toying with the idea of edits and I’ve started in earnest on Episode I.

What interests me most is reordering and recontextualizing scenes. Who knows how far I will make it so I am making this thread for three main reasons: as a self-motivator, for advice, and for others to take any ideas they think worth trying for their own work.

I am making compromises along the way because (1) I want to minimize choppiness (2) I don’t have skills for everything I might want to do, and (3) in theory I want to preserve GL’s overall vision, up to and including Jar Jar - it’s a fun challenge to see how well that can be done.

[Source: TPM bluray]

The Beginning of Episode I:

A new crawl. The Trade Federation is occupying the planet of Naboo and the Republic has dispatched Jedis to negotiate.

From the crawl, pan down to the Trade Federation ship (Attack on Theed theme plays) with ships headed toward Naboo, then the line of troop transport vehicles headed to Theed, their procession in the City, Amidala watching from the window.

Cut to Trade Federation ship scene, exterior then interior, where Gunray is telling Palpatine, “the invasion is on schedule, my Lord.” This scene plays out as normal up until Palpatine says about Amidala, “controlling her will not be difficult.”

Cut to Theed palace, throne room scene (omitting Palpatine hologram) where Amidala talks about they need to rely on negotiations rather than engaging in military action, etc (rejiggering the scene to make it fit the new storyline). Amidala looks weak, seeming to fit Palpatine’s description. Governor Bibble exasperatedly asks “and where are the Chancellor’s Ambassadors?”

Cut to the Jedi ship making its way to the Trade Federation ship (omit pre-boarding call with Gunray). After Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are brought to the conference room, there is lots of reordering and trimming for the sake of the new storyline and for maintaining tension. After the Jedi flee the droids (omitting the fast run and mention of ventilation shafts), Amidala calls Gunray and tells him she believes the ambassadors have arrived, Gunray says he has no idea what she’s talking about.

Cut to Qui-Gon talking to Obi-Wan about stowing aboard ships and meeting below.

Big and miscellaneous changes:

A couple of big changes I want to make down the road relate to Darth Maul. I will omit his going to Tatooine. The first encounter with Maul will be on Corcuscant. After the balcony scene with Palpatine and Maul, taken from earlier in the film, we cut to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan speaking on Coruscant. Perhaps the balcony scene where Obi-Wan is asking Qui-Gon to not defy the council, or else the landing pad talk before they are set to return to Naboo. Digital magic places them in the power generator space where they are confronted by Maul mid-discussion. They fight, ending when Qui-Gon knocks Maul off the bridge and Maul seems to fall into the abyss (rather than onto another bridge). This is followed by parts of earlier scene where Qui-Gon tells the council about the threat he encountered and the council says they will look into it. I’m trying to figure out if I can make the council discussion a night scene to work better for the changed narrative (and not that Qui-Gon waited until morning). No idea how well any of this will work technically (or if I can do it) but think it greatly improves the story.

On Naboo, Maul shows up again, a surprising menace, acting so cool because he is still alive. They fight in the hangar as normal, with Maul kicking Obi-Wan to the floor before entering doorway with Qui Gon, then cut to the force field hallway. Some digital magic to obscure power generator background in a couple of shots.

Another big change is having the spat between Sebulba and Jar Jar occur while Qui-Gon and crew are just looking for a place to buy the parts they need. Anakin steps in to save Jar Jar and by end of scene, there is an inserted line from Qui-Gon about needing parts followed by Anakin’s statement (taken from later) “c’mon, I’ll take you to my place.” This makes the whole train of events, including meeting Anakin more organic. AND makes the story more in tune with GL’s declaration that “Jar Jar is the key to all of this.” There is limited material to work with but I think it is feasible. Minor edits in Watto’s shop scene also makes this work.

Some miscellaneous changes: There will be no 3PO. No midichlorians. After Shmi tells Anakin to not look back, he does. I desperately want to change the podrace announcers. Let it be Max Rebo and Droopy McCool. Musicians need to make a living however they can and maybe that’s how they got Jabba’s attention. Changing the announcers is beyond me and maybe I will omit them entirely, I don’t know. There will be color grading and music changes.

I have two small Gungan scenes mostly complete (links below). For the underwater swim,the original music never worked for me as it has an ethereal and magical feel that doesn’t match grumpy Jedi following Jar Jar underwater for an uncertain purpose. A Mussorgsky tune has been adapted instead. I’m rather proud of the second clip as well, a few subtle changes.

I’m more excited about my ideas for Episode II but I think it will go better if I have Episode I worked out, at least as practice. Episode III is a big challenge but I have similar ideas for its alteration. I’ve been following the The Prequel Radical Redux thread which has ideas worth integrating.

Let me know your thoughts!

https://streamable.com/aph0qy

https://streamable.com/yc1e4t

The Beginning of Episode II:

A new crawl. Opponents of the military creation act are being targeted for assassination. Jedi Knight Obi-Wan and his apprentice Anakin are in pursuit of the assassin.

From the crawl, pan down to Coruscant, ships flying, night side of the planet with the lights on the surface. Cut to surface, very possibly using the following scene from TPM: https://streamable.com/lcc1bh

Cuts from there to Obi-Wan and Anakin pursuing the assassin in their speeder. This provides a strong introduction to the characters, with cringier dialogue trimmed. Anakin tries his “shortcut” and loses the assassin, as Obi-Wan says. The scene cuts to Zam Wesell in her speeder escaping (along with the denouement in the music as it exists) as she removes her veil, now that she’s safe and for the audience to see her.

Cut to Padme’s ship arriving through the clouds, then to Obi-Wan & Anakin going up the elevator to see Padme. All kinds of trimming here of course! I am sure others have done many clever things with this scene that I will have to consult. It is hard not to reduce it to almost nothing. One little change I will make is after Padme says, “Ani? My goodness, you’ve grown,” Anakin responds “So have you… for a senator, I mean.” It makes a bad line feel more authentic, like he is awkwardly covering himself and not being a creep. Then the shot of Captain Typho looking uncomfortable and a simple awkward smile from Padme.

Padme is no longer the assassin’s lone target and the dialogue in this and other scenes is trimmed accordingly.

There is the meeting in Palpatine’s office somewhere, maybe here.

After Palpatine’s office scene with talk about Separatists, we cut to the base on Geonosis, separatists meeting around the table. Letting the audience have a clear idea what is happening is good!

We get to the Jedi protecting Padme in her apartment. I’m pretty sure it is snooker who has done some great work on this scene (I cannot find the post right now), eg makes it look like Anakin jumps out the window. In my vision Zam Wesell flies right up to the window to assassinate Padme and Anakin jumps onto the speeder where the speeder fight ensues. Obi-Wan rushes after in his speeder and lands where Zam has crashed to join Anakin at the club. Another suggestion I want to adopt is to omit shapeshifter talk, change line to “He is a she”/“In that case, be extra careful”.

Obi-Wan and Anakin go before the council, Obi-Wan instructed to investigate the bounty hunter and Anakin is to protect Padme.

Obi-Wan goes to the diner to find out about the saberdart. I think this scene can be charming with careful cutting of things that are too silly or repetitive.

Then we cut to first few seconds of “Star Wars: Underworld” footage showing a grungy lower level street. Cut to Anakin and Padme, incognito, eating there in a shabby cantina (ie what was the refugee ship).

We cut to Anakin speaking with Palpatine who promises to speak to Padme. There is solo shot of Anakin at the council in front of window saying it will be hard to get Padme to leave. That scene can be added here. (Mace Windu/Yoda do not orchestrate her leaving.) This is Anakin’s initiative because he cares too much for her and Palps is more than happy to oblige.

Anakin has a bad dream about his mother (taken from Naboo portion of the film). Cut to Padme getting ready to leave, all upset. The scene is trimmed and revised.

[And much, much more!]

Wrong, mfm. No comparison was made. It was just another example of the U.K. having low tolerance for neo-Nazis. oojason’s post is too much like a political argument, so I’ll leave it alone.

oojason said:

‘Liverpool makes a stand and runs far-right marchers out of town’…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/nov/03/liverpool-runs-far-right-marchers-out-of-town
 

Pleased to say it’s not the far time these racist neo-nazis have been run out of Liverpool in recent times - last time they took to hiding in a ‘left-luggage’ shop with the shutters down - link 😃
 

Even the racist neo-nazis in the government are in trouble over there..

Watched Rosa. It felt like an episode of “Timeless.” Not a bad thing per se. Did I miss something about the villain that made him anything more than a macguffin that brought them to Birmingham? All the timey wimey stuff and moral lectures to everyone the Doctor meets were replaced by great caution in this episode. Don’t know if this is the new direction of the show or a one-off show of respect to real history. I liked that the moralizing which has pervaded the show was given some real substance at least.

You are young.

So not a believer in God?

Trident, I wish you all the best in your future endeavors.

Reform, Conservative, Orthodox?

Not many people have the tolerance for a purely analytical discussion when strong emotions are in play. There’s too much to respond to using a telephone as I am, and one should be wary of derailing flame’s thread. While there may be an interesting analytical matter, whether different conditions are both due to brain wiring doesn’t seem relevant here. Sympathy is going to vary regardless the cause for different conditions.

Are you kosher?

Trident, your initial question was alright, though the psychological is often physical in the sense it’s not caused by experience but rather is baked in (which you recognize). And if we’re talking about solely about the latter, the question that follows yours is what difference it makes? That’s a sincere question for you.

Your last question is essentially whether flame would take a pill, were it available, to make the dysphoria go away. Any given person may have a different answer and it’s complicated by the internal sense of identity one has had and the idea that a pill would destroy that, rather than fix something.

Unsurprisingly your examples get in the way. I get what you’re saying but they don’t really support what you’re getting at.

moviefreakedmind said:

That’s debatable, but he’d never seen the movie.

That’s my entire point. RLM fans ruin RLM for me.

George Lucas unboxing a salad was their best video.

moviefreakedmind said:

They always go after people for “pretentiousness” and so does their audience.

To be fair, pretentious people are annoying.

moviefreakedmind said:

He is self-deprecating but both of them obviously firmly believe that they’re right and everyone else is stupid and wrong. They frequently attribute the success of movies they don’t like to audiences being stupid or simpletons (see their Rogue One and IT reviews). No matter how ‘common folk’ they seem, that’s their obvious perspective. Like I said, I do the same thing but I don’t pretend otherwise.

They pretend otherwise? I think they’re pretty blatant about thinking they’re right. Yet I don’t see the problem with that. I think you’re taking them way too seriously.

oojason said:

‘Museum of the Bible says five of its Dead Sea Scrolls fragments are forgeries’…

Artefacts will no longer be on display after researchers said they show ‘characteristics inconsistent with ancient origin’

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/22/museum-of-the-bible-dead-sea-scrolls-fragments-forgeries-fake
 

My relatives, evangelical Christians, visited that museum last month. They were very excited to go but were dissapointed. Not terribly interesting or much to see, I’m told. This news makes it even more sad.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Ate a steak boiled in milk.

The end result didn’t look that appetizing, but it was sure tender.

Other than that Mr. Energizer, how did it taste?

Handman said:

LordZerome1080 said:

His sidekick is a pussy. 😏

No, you’re thinking of dahmage.

dahmage is your sidekick? I’ll prepare the paperwork.