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#1610857
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Any Fellow Backstreet Boys Fans Here?
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I’ve first heard them when they first hit mainstream U.S. radio in 1997, and I still enjoy their music today. There’s a few bad ones in my opinion, such as the horrendous “If You Want It To Be Good Girl (Get Yourself A Bad Boy”) - even band member Howie Dorough has said he regrets recording that song. But most of them are very memorable; a few of my personal faves include “As Long As You Love Me”, “Show Me The Meaning (Of Being Lonely)”, “More Than That”, “Back To Your Heart”, “What Makes You Different”, “Incomplete”, “I Still”, “Never Gone”, “Straight Through My Heart”, “Drowning”, and of course their two most well-known hits: “I Want It That Way” and “Everybody (Backstreet’s Back)”.

Its hard to believe all five guys are still going strong after 31 years (though Kevin Richardson did take an extended break from 2006 to 2012). But even though most of them are in their 50s now, they still have fans all over the world, both men and women (I’ve never bought into the popular lie that insists every male BSB fan has to be gay; that’s just plain crap). Anyway, what do you all think of them? Are you new fans, old fans, or haven’t listened to them at all? Sound off; I’m curious to see your responses. 😃

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#1610799
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Last web series/tv show seen
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I don’t watch a lot of stuff on streaming, but I did enjoy the first season of “Wednesday”, starring Jenna Ortega. It was co-created by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar, who developed “Smallville” in 2001. Plus, I’m a casual fan of the “Addams Family” franchise anyway, so watching the show was pretty much a no-brainer. I was really happy to learn that Season 2 is currently being filmed, so I’m eager to see it upon release.

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#1610798
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Your DVD Collection
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I don’t have many DVDs anymore, except for the original releases of “Smallville”, “Roswell”, and “Star Trek: Voyager”. Otherwise, here’s my list…

4K UHD MOVIES

Back to the Future: The Ultimate Trilogy (1985-1990)
The Crow (1994)
The Dark Knight Trilogy (2005-2012)
Escape From New York (1981, Shout! Factory Collector’s Edition)
Field of Dreams (1989)
Footloose (1984) - 40th Anniversary
Highlander (1986)
The Italian Job (2003)
The Karate Kid: 3-Movie Collection (1984-1989)
The Matrix Trilogy (1999-2003)
Top Gun: 2-Movie Collection (1986-2022)

BLU-RAY MOVIES

The Addams Family (1991)
Air Force One
Aladdin: Diamond Edition
Alice in Wonderland (1951) - 60th Anniversary
The Amazing Spider-Man
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
An American Tail
Another Stakeout
Ant-Man (2015)
Ant-Man & The Wasp (2018)
Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania (2023)
Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001)
The Avengers (2012)
Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
Avengers: Endgame (2019)
Back In Time (2015)
Backstreet Boys: Show ‘Em What You’re Made Of (2015)
The Batman (2022)
Batman (1989)
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (2000)
Batman Forever (1995)
Beauty and the Beast (1991)
Beauty and the Beast (2017)
Beetlejuice (1988)
Black Panther (2018)
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022)
Black Widow (2021)
Bohemian Rhapsody (2018)
The Bourne Identity (2002)
The Bourne Supremacy (2004)
The Bourne Ultimatum (2007)
The Bourne Legacy (2013)
The Breakfast Club (1985) - 30th Anniversary
Broken Arrow (1996)
Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)
Captain America: Civil War (2016)
Captain Marvel (2019)
Cars (2006)
The Case For Christ (2017)
Casper (1995)
A Charlie Brown Christmas (1965)
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe (2005)
The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008)
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (2010)
Cinderella (1950) - Diamond Edition
Cocoon (1985)
Con Air (1997)
Crocodile Dundee I & II (1986-1989, 2 Disc “Double Feature”)
Dante’s Peak (1997)
Daredevil: Director’s Cut (2003)
Darkman: Collector’s Edition (Shout! Factory) (1990)
Deep Impact (1998)
Die Hard Collection (1989-2007)
Doctor Strange (2016)
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)
Dr. Seuss’ How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000) - Grinchmas Edition
Eddie and the Cruisers 1 & 2 (1983-1989) - Shout! Factory Double Feature
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
Eternals (2021)
Face/Off (1997)
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them (2016)
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald (2018)
Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore (2022)
Ferngully: The Last Rainforest (1992)
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off (1986)
A Few Good Men (1992)
Frequency (2000)
The Fugitive (1993) - 20th Anniversary Remastered Edition
God’s Not Dead (2014)
God’s Not Dead 2 (2016)
Godzilla (1998)
Good Morning, Vietnam (1987)
Green Lantern (2011)
Grumpy Old Men (1993)
Grumpier Old Men (1995)
Guardians of the Galaxy (2014)
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2 (2017)
Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3 (2023)
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (2001) - Ultimate Edition
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) - Ultimate Edition
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) - Ultimate Edition
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) - Ultimate Edition
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) - Ultimate Edition
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009) - Ultimate Edition
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, Parts 1 & 2 (2010, 2011 - Ultimate Edition)
Heaven Is For Real (2014)
Hercules (1997)
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Extended Edition (2012)
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug - Extended Edition (2013)
The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies - Extended Edition (2014)
Home Alone (1990)
Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (1992)
Hook (1991)
The Hunchback of Notre Dame 1 & 2 (1996, 2002 - 3-Disc Combo)
I, Robot (2004)
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Iron Man (2008)
Iron Man 2 (2010)
Iron Man 3 (2013)
Jason Bourne (2016)
The Jesus Music (2021)
Jumanji (1995; 2017 Reissue)
The Jungle Book: Diamond Edition (1967)
Jurassic Park Trilogy (1993-2001)
Jurassic World (2015)
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018)
Jurassic World: Dominion (2022)
Last Action Hero (1993)
Lethal Weapon Collection (1987-1998)
Lilo & Stitch 1 & 2 (2002-2005; 3-Disc Combo)
The Lion King: Diamond Edition (1994)
The Little Mermaid: Diamond Edition (1989)
The Lord of the Rings: Extended Edition Trilogy (2001-2003)
The Man Who Invented Christmas (2017)
The Marvels (2023)
Mary Poppins: 50th Anniversary Edition (1964)
Mary Poppins Returns (2018)
The Mask (1994)
The Mask of Zorro (1998)
Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon (2011)
Michael Jackson’s “This Is It” (2009)
Mission Impossible (1996, 25th-Anniversary Edition)
Mission: Impossible II (2000)
Mission Impossible III (2006, 2-Disc Collector’s Edition)
Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol (Best Buy 3-Disc)
Mission Impossible - Rogue Nation (2015)
Mission Impossible - Fallout (2018)
Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning, Part 1 (2023)
Mortal Kombat (1995)
Mulan / Mulan II (1998-2004; 3-Disc Collector’s Edition)
The Mummy (1999)
My Best Friend is a Vampire (1987)
My Cousin Vinny (1992)
National Treasure (2004)
National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007)
October Sky (1999)
Oliver & Company (1988)
The Original Christmas Specials Collection (1964-1970)
Outatime: Saving the DeLorean Time Machine (2016)
Oz: The Great & Powerful (2013)
The Pagemaster (1994)
The Passion of the Christ: Definitive Edition (2004)
Paycheck (2003)
The Peanuts Movie (2015)
Peter Pan: Diamond Edition (1953)
The Phantom (1996)
The Phantom of the Opera (2004)
The Phantom of the Opera at The Royal Albert Hall (2012)
Phenomenon (1996)
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest (2006)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End (2006)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides 3D (2011)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales 3D (2017)
The Polar Express (2004)
The Punisher (2004)
The Quick and the Dead (1995)
Race to Witch Mountain (2009)
Risen (2016)
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves: Extended Cut (1991)
RoboCop (2014)
The Rocketeer (1991)
The Santa Clause (1994)
The Shadow: Collector’s Edition (1994, Shout! Factory)
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021)
Sister Act / Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit (1992-1993)
Sonic the Hedgehog (2020)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2022)
The Sorcerer’s Apprentice (2010)
The Sound of Music (1965)
Spaceballs (1987)
Spider-Man: High Definition Trilogy (2002-2007)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019)
Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005; 9-Disc)
Street Fighter: Extreme Edition (1994)
Suicide Squad (2016)
Supergirl (1984)
The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2023)
Tarzan (1999)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles “Triple-Feature” (1990-1993)
The Terminator (1984; Remastered)
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991; Skynet Edition)
Terminator Salvation (2009; Director’s Cut)
Thor (2011)
Thor: The Dark World (2013)
Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
Thor: Love & Thunder (2022)
TMNT (2007)
Tron: The Original Classic (1982)
Tron: Legacy (2010)
The Truman Show (1998)
U.S. Marshals (1998)
Venom (2018)
Venom: Let There Be Carnage (2021)
Walk the Line (2005)
Wall·E (2008)
Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988; 25th Anniversary)
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971)
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
Wonder Woman (2017)
Wonder Woman 1984 (2020)
The X-Files: Fight the Future (1998)
X-Men (2000)
X2: X-Men United (2003)
X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
X-Men: First Class (2011)
X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014; The Rogue Cut)
X-Men: Apocalypse (2016)
You’ve Got Mail (1998)
Zack Snyder’s Justice League (2021)

BLU-RAY TV SHOWS

Agents of SHIELD - Seasons 1 & 2
Arrow - Seasons 1 - 5
Cheers: The Complete Series (1982-1993)
Daredevil (Netflix) - Seasons 1 & 2
The Flash (2014) - Seasons 1 - 3
Knight Rider: The Complete Series (1982-1986)
Looney Tunes - Platinum Collection, Vol. 1
Person of Interest - Seasons 1 - 4
Quantum Leap: The Complete Series
Smallville: The Complete Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Complete Series

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#1610770
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Are you glad Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney or do you wish he hadn’t?
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Spartacus01 said:

Servii said:

rocknroll41 said:

I’ve had a change of heart recently. At this point, I think the Disney deal was a huge mistake.

Why the change?

'Cause he watched The Acolyte, probably.

I didn’t even have to watch it. Once I read the basic premise, I thought “Shit; Kennedy’s letting people screw things up even worse.”

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#1610757
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What do you think of The Prequel Trilogy? A general discussion.
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I’ll admit when I first saw “The Phantom Menace”, I was very surprised to see that Lucas chose to begin that trilogy with a 9-year-old Anakin as a slave boy. Initially the idea seemed rather strange, but when the moment came where he has to leave Shmi behind, and then his following interrogation by the Jedi Council, I had a general idea of how the new master plan was going to unfold. What I didn’t expect was Lucas going so far as having Anakin kill Younglings (that struck me as overkill, pardon the pun), but thankfully he kept it off-screen to maintain a lower rating…at least for the time.

I’ve heard the prequel bashers repeatedly condemn the love story between Anakin & Padme, but I don’t think they’re looking at it from the right perspective. Just as the tone of the original trilogy was modeled on the serials of the 1950s, Lucas went back even further and chose to model the prequels’ style on stories from the 1930s. So while it is a little cheesy, that’s by deliberate design. And besides that, stop to really think for a moment: what was your first love experience like? Were you confident and strong, sure that you knew exactly how to handle everything, and how it would all turn out? My personal guess is that for 99% of people in the world, their honest answer would be “no”. Anakin started off as an insecure slave who wanted to become a Jedi so he could save his fellow slaves, especially his mother. But once he joins the Jedi Order, his would-be master dies because of a Sith apprentice, and Obi-Wan takes up that duty. But hard as he tried, Kenobi was more of a stern brother to Anakin, who really needed a loving and supportive father figure. If he hadn’t been murdered, Qui-Gon would’ve been that for the boy.

Ten years pass, and not only has Anakin gone through all the changes of puberty with the emotions to accompany them, he’s also suffering nightmarish visions of his mother back on Tatooine. His desperation to save her drives him to defy the Council’s orders, and he makes it to Shmi barely in time for her to die in his arms. This is the catalyst for what will ultimately end with him being “more machine than man”, as he allows his rage to take over to him slaughtering the entire Tusken Raider camp. He feels remorse later, and Padme tries to comfort him, but he still fears a loss of total control. His words to Padme prove it: “I’m a Jedi. I know I’m better than this.” And then later, when burying Shmi, he makes a personal vow: “I’m sorry I couldn’t save you, Mom…but I promise I won’t fail again.”

Flash forward another three years, and not only has Anakin become a full Jedi Knight, he is now one of the most heralded leaders in the Clone Wars. Beings from across the galaxy have dubbed him “The Hero Without Fear”, but in fact the reverse is true: he still carries plenty of it inside of him. And when his nightmares return regarding his secret wife Padme (a fact he longer wants to keep from others) start to haunt him, he seeks out the worst person imaginable for advice: Chancellor Palpatine. Upon hearing the legend of “Darth Plagueis the Wise”, Anakin is slowly convinced the only way to save Padme and their unborn child is to abandon the Jedi way of life, and surrender to the Dark Side. But his decision costs him dearly, as he loses his friendship with Obi-Wan, becomes a mass murderer, loses the majority of his body in the flames of Mustafar, and is finally led to believe that he killed his own wife and kid.

Regarding “Revenge of the Sith” and Anakin’s fate in general, George Lucas once described it as “Star Wars Goes to Hell”, and I definitely see his point. Its an epic tragedy of a man who keeps losing one thing and person after another, until all that’s left is enslavement to a sadistic Emperor who cares for no one else. Its only when Luke is tortured nearly to death by the Emperor for refusing to kill his own father, that Anakin musters enough strength to destroy the man who held him prisoner for over 20 years. And it was all because his son showed him the value of sacrifice, refusing to accept the darkness even to spare someone else he loved.

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#1610738
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❕ <strong>Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com |</strong> Introduce yourself in here | <strong>Useful info within</strong> ❕
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Hey, all. I signed up yesterday and have already made a few posts, but I forgot to do the customary intro first. So with that in mind, here goes (takes deep breath)…

My name is Josh, and I’m a 44-year-old Texan currently living in Montgomery, which is about halfway between Dallas and Houston. As my handle implies, I’m a film fanatic in the broader sense, though I haven’t watched a lot of recent fare because so much of Hollywood’s stuff has become PC-infested trash these days. I’m a steadfast Christian and conservative, but I do my best not to push any of it down people’s throats. I’m also into Christian apologetics, which involves using the mind to defend the faith; as the saying goes, “Christians don’t get points for being stupid.”

Apart from that, I like using Photoshop quite a bit, and I sometimes play emulated retro video games. Some of my favorite movies include the “Back to the Future” trilogy, the first three “Matrix” entries, the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general, and a few others. But I really do love the original movie of “The Crow”, with Brandon Lee - I’ve seen it probably 100 times or more in almost 30 years, and have met the comic’s creator James O’Barr a number of times (he’s not as depressed as some might expect).

Some TV shows I really enjoy include “Smallville”, “Cheers”, “Person of Interest”, and the original versions of both “Knight Rider” and “Quantum Leap”. I actually was fortunate enough to meet Dean Stockwell shortly before he passed away; he was also courteous, though somewhat tired due to his age.

Regarding music, I mainly grew up on the Contemporary Christian genre, or “CCM” for short. So a few of my most loved artists from that style are Amy Grant, Michael W. Smith, Steven Curtis Chapman, Petra, and Skillet. When it comes to other musicians (I despise the term “secular”), I’m a big Michael Jackson fan, while Rascal Flatts and the Backstreet Boys remain near the top of my list (I’ve never bought into the viewpoint which says any man who likes a boy band has to be gay). I also love movie scores, with some of my favorite composers being Alan Silvestri, James Horner, and Graeme Revell.

I guess that’s enough details about me for now. If you want to know anything else, feel free to ask.

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#1610733
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New Lucas interview 2: 'Insists Unaltered Versions Of The OT Will Never Be Released'
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I really like that Screen Rant article; its short and to the point with virtually no bias. Here’s my favorite part…

“Lucas’ ownership of the Star Wars franchise as its creator gave him every reason to make changes to the original Star Wars films. While some may disagree with some of the minor changes such as Return of the Jedi’s musical number, Jabba the Hutt’s A New Hope appearance, or Greedo shooting Han Solo first, the bigger changes to match the visual style of both trilogies make a lot of sense. These changes were simply about Lucas furthering his ownership for the franchise he created, explaining his defense of them.”

Like it or not, the fact remains that as long as George was in charge of his own company, he was free to do whatever he wanted with those films, whether anyone else liked it or not. While I’d definitely purchase the UOT in a higher video quality if he changed his mind someday, I’m not going to act entitled or stay eternally upset with him about refusing to do so.

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#1610716
Topic
Okay, what did we LIKE about the Special Editions?
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Here’s some of the changes I like…

  1. The expanded entrance into Mos Eisley. It really changes the tone of the original film’s first act, because Obi-Wan & Luke hiding out in a bigger place would make it harder for the Stormtroopers to find them.

  2. The improved X-Wings during the Battle of Yavin. Most of the older models still hold up extremely well, but its still awesome that they included some new angles along with added lasers and such. It makes the whole sequence feel less repetitive from a visual standpoint.

  3. Both enhanced explosions for the Death Stars. Some have nicknamed them as the “Praxis effect”, referring to the opening of “Star Trek VI”. But I think what was done in the Special Editions was even more impressive.

  4. No more matte lines or transparent cockpits during the Battle of Hoth. The ships look much more realistic that way.

  5. The expanded approach to Cloud City, and the windows added to the interiors. The original version just looked too obvious that it was filmed on a confined set.

  6. Ian McDiarmid being added in as the Emperor’s hologram, though I personally wish they’d have made him look as he appeared in “Return of the Jedi”.

  7. The alien “beak” and tentacles added to the Sarlaac Pit sequence. The original version just wasn’t too threatening; it was an open mouth with teeth and little else. Having the creature attack our heroes added some necessary tension.

  8. John Williams’ new music for the ending on Endor, with all the other planets shown celebrating as well. The original “Yub Nub” song was okay as a kid, but as I grew up it became annoying to me.

  9. Hayden Christensen being added as Anakin’s ghost. I know a lot of people will disagree, but since the prequels were still being made at the time and George wanted different things to rhyme, it made some sense for the narrative. Its not like she completely reshot Sebastian Shaw’s “dying Vader” scene; that would’ve been completely disrespectful by comparison.

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#1610714
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Which one do you like more? The Prequels or the Sequels? And why?
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Even though I’ll admit they have some minor problems (and the originals do as well), I still love the prequels. I grew up with the UOT on VHS as a kid, and I was 16 when the Special Editions came out. Regarding George’s films, I’m no purist, so I was able to accept both the changed versions and the prequels on their own merits. When I first saw “The Phantom Menace”, I loved it, and I still think its a lot of fun. All three of those movies are worthy companion pieces to the originals, in my opinion.

The sequels, however, are a very different story. I enjoyed most of “The Force Awakens”, but upon viewing “The Last Jedi” I was stunned into silence, and not in a good way. It took me a short while to gather my thoughts, and after that all I could think was “My God, they did it. They actually managed to eff up a Star Wars movie.” Luke being a depressed hermit was completely wrong, along with Snoke being turned from a potential threat to an idiot so clueless that his own apprentice literally slices him in half. Rey became vastly overpowered, Finn & Poe became almost redundant, Captain Phasma was treated like trash, and don’t get me started on Holdo - her sacrifice had no impact on me at all. And then of course, there’s the “Leia Poppins” moment, which I wasn’t sure whether to laugh at or groan about. The entire movie just flat-out sucked. I never saw “The Rise of Skywalker” all the way through, but from the clips I’ve seen the general tone seemed more in line with “The Force Awakens”. Still, bringing Palpatine back was a dumbass choice, and lazy as well. I really blame Kathleen Kennedy for the bulk of this; she promised George Lucas that she would respect his characters and the legacy that he had created. But once she had control of his company, she turned right around and stabbed him in the back.

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#1610711
Topic
A few reviews . . (film or TV)
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I’ve never written a published review, but just for my own take on things I typed them up and saved them on my computer. Here’s one I did, for the 2004 version of “The Phantom of the Opera”. Beware though, its pretty long-winded…

SUMMARY

The year is 1919, and Paris’ rundown Opera Populaire is having an auction. Among the attenders are the Vicomte de Chagny, and the watchful Madame Giry. As the auctioneer goes through each piece up for bid, he reaches Lot 665, a barrel-organ music box shaped like a monkey. After some slight competition, Giry yields the box to the Vicomte, who cherishes it as a piece of his own memories. We soon see why, when the auctioneer mentions Lot 666…a broken chandelier, reputed to be from events 50 years earlier which involved the hauntings of a mysterious “phantom” in the opera house. The chandelier has been repaired, and as the stagehands lift it towards the ceiling, we are swept back in time to the days of glory for the Opera Populaire.

It is now 1870, and the Opera’s cast is rehearsing for a production of “Hannibal”. The property’s former owner has sold it to a pair of investors from the junk business, who are eager to make some serious money from the place. But when tempermental soprano diva Carlotta Geudicelli attempts a personal rendition for the new owners, her performance (and nearly her life) is literally crashed by a falling setpiece. A shadowy form flickers overhead, rousing the long-held “Phantom” suspicions among the chorus girls. To replace the enraged and shaken Carlotta, the owners reluctantly recruit Christine Daae, Madame Giry’s protege. Her radiant, soulful voice makes her an instant success, and draws the attention of Raoul (himself a much younger Vicomte de Chagny). But unknown to the masses, Christine’s been trained by a mysterious instructor, who leaves her black-ribboned roses when pleased. The identity of her “master” is soon revealed as that of the Phantom himself, a lonely obsessive soul living in the Populaire’s flooded depths. Taking the young starlet to his underground lair, he reveals that he has fallen in love with her.

Christine’s apparent disappearance soon results in a panic for everyone else, until she is returned by the Phantom to continue her career. A tempermental genius, the musical magician demands (through a series of notes) that she replace Carlotta indefinitely. When the managers refuse to follow his orders, the Phantom kills stagehand Joseph Buquet in retaliation, hanging him over the stage in the middle of a performance. Shocked and confused, a fearful Christine is comforted by Raoul, who professes his own love for her. Returning it, she kisses him in a passionate embrace…which enrages the secretly-watching Phantom, crushing his already-weakened resolve and drivng him mad. In a moment of desperate anger, he swears vengeance on Raoul and Christine, screaming in fury from the Populaire’s rooftop.

Months pass without incident, and the Populaire holds a masquerade celebration one night. Christine has secretly become engaged to Raoul, but worries about the Phantom’s possible return. Her fears are confirmed that night, when the solitary “master” crashes the party, presenting his finished opera score “Don Juan Triumphant” to the frightened owners. Raoul sneaks away to retrieve his sword, while the Phantom addresses the guests. Wishing to reclaim Christine for himself, he asks she be allowed to resume her training. Seeing her engagement ring, he tears it angrily from around her neck. Vanishing into a hidden door, the Phantom is pursued by Raoul. Nearly killed in a labyrinth of mirrors, Raoul is saved by Madame Giry, who confeses her own involvement in this tragic affair. Years ago, she visited a circus with the rest of her dancing troupe. There, among the attractions, was a barbaric display called the “Devil’s Child”. A young boy, disfigured, is beaten by his cruel and savage taskmaster. But on the night of Giry’s visit, she witnesses the victim murder his tormentor to escape. Helping him flee, she hides him in the depths of the Populaire. Remaining with the company all her life, she stays to help shield him from the world’s cruelties, and he eventually becomes The Phantom.

Informed of the terrible truth, Raoul meets with the opera house’s managers, planning to have the authorities arrest the Phantom at his “Don Juan” performance. Unaware of their scheme, the Phantom attends, killing and replacing cast member Ubaldo Piangi in the title role. His powerful voice is instantly recognized by Christine, who continues her role as the play’s main love interest. Watching them from the balcony, Raoul realizes that Christine has actually felt true love for the Phantom. All goes as intended for Raoul and the police, until the final moments of the finale. Following the song “The Point of No Return”, the lonely Phantom pleads with Christine to stay with him. Instead, she uses the moment to unmask his deformed visage before the audience. Betrayed, the Phantom kidnaps Christine and returns to his lair with her, crashing the Populaire’s ornate chandelier in the process. Realizing the Phantom’s hatred and grief have now consumed him, Madame Giry aids Raoul, showing him a hidden tunnel to the Phantom’s lair. Falling into an underwater booby trap, he barely escapes with his life. Meanwhile, the Phantom is confronted by a torn Christine, who says that his darkened soul, not his face, drove her away. The Phantom’s response is cut short by the arrival of Raoul, who is captured and begs for Christine’s release.

Refusing to be separated from the woman he desires, the Phantom offers Christine a terrible choice: if she remains with him, he will free Raoul; if not, she will be freed, but Raoul will die. Her grief and fear turning to hate, Christine accuses the Phantom of deliberate deception. Faced with only one choice left, she releases all her love for the Phantom in a passionate kiss. His cold heart melted, the Phantom frees them both, his last wish to be left alone, and for them to keep his existence a secret. But a lynch mob crusades down the flooded tunnels, bent on avenging the murders of Buquet and Piangi. Crushed, the Phantom destroys all the mirrors in his lair, retreating into a secret escape route. When the mob arrives, the only things recovered are the Phantom’s mask, and the barrel-organ music box. The story then returns to 1919, where an elderly Raoul has arrived at the cemetery to visit Christine’s grave (the headstone reveals she’d married him and bore children). Placing the music box at the foot of the grave, he notices something: a single red rose, with a black ribbon tied around it. Knowing this was the Phantom’s trademark, Raoul looks around briefly for any sign of him. There is none…only stillness, death, and love.

REVIEW

Released in 2004, Joel Schumacher’s adaptation of Andrew Lloyd Webber’s legendary stage production was a long time coming. The play first began in 1986, with singers Michael Crawford and Sarah Brightman as the Phantom and Christine, respectively. Webber later married Brightman, and had planned on her reprising Christine Daae for the silver screen. But their eventual divorce put an indefinite hold on the project; it would remain unfulfilled for over a decade. Webber had chosen director Schumacher (“Batman Forever”, “Phone Booth”) for “Phantom of the Opera” back in the early 1990s, due to his talented use of color and music. Eventually, a deal was struck with Warner Bros. Studios, and the two filmmakers agreed on two things: the cast’s overall ages would be reduced in this version (the stage actors were mostly in their late 30’s to mid-40’s), and all of them would do their own singing. This caused a slight problem with the addition of Minnie Driver, Webber’s only choice for the role of Carlotta. Webber dubbed her in-picture singing with a professional soprano, and gave Driver her own song for the film’s ending credits. In the main principal roles were actors Gerard Butler as the Phantom, Emmy Rossum as Christine, Patrick Wilson as Raoul, and Miranda Richardson as Madame Giry.

Thus is the basic story for the making of the film; upon its release, it was a commercial success in many respects, as fans of the stage musical were excited to see their beloved characters in a new form. The songs, costume designs, sets, and historical representations were all praised…and in my opinion, the film definitely deserves it. However, those unfamiliar with the tale should be cautious. Based on a novel by French author Gaston Leroux, both the musical and the film tell a story deeply mired in themes of romance, love, faith, (in)justice, and death. As such, it’s especially important for discerning hearts to be wary of a few elements.

Visually, the film’s biggest areas of concern are sex and violence. Unlike many films which revel in them, this film thankfully avoids that trap…and while the presence of such elements are important to the story, what’s more imprtant is for viewers to know ahead of time what they’ll be getting themselves into. Regarding sexual situations, the most obvious one is likely the many nude statues and carvings which adorn the walls and lobby of the opera house. While the camera doesn’t excessively linger on them (mostly presenting them as historical art pieces), their inclusion helps to sell the mood of the time in which this tragedy takes place. Costumes worn by many female characters are designed to enhance their curves, particularly above the waist. As for the violent content, the most extreme moments concern the murders of Joseph Buquet and the Phantom’s childhood abuser (the latter is shown in flashback). As for Piangi’s death, it is mainly done in a quick cut away, and his lifeless form appears shortly thereafter, embraced by a weeping Carlotta.

Non-visually, the other theme which fuels this story is the spiritual nature of music. Christine often likens the Phantom to her deceased father’s promise of sending her an “Angel of Music”, which could be interpreted as an allusion to Satan. Among the dark character’s many lines of song are phrases such as “let your darker side give in”; he also refers to himself as a “gargoyle who burns in hell, but secretly yearns for heaven”, a “repulsive carcass”, and a “beast” or “monster”. In the Don Juan performance scene, lyrics such as “when will the flames at last consume us” are present. Overall, an underlying message of this film is one of emotional and spiritual suggestion through the power of music. Used properly, music is a wondrous thing…but used irresponsibly, it can be a greater danger to people than a knife or firearm. Both sides of the collective canvas are presented, so people should know that going in. As a whole, this film gets a 8.5/10 in my book.

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#1610709
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Religion
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Spartacus01 said:
I consider myself a staunch Communist, fully convinced that scientific atheism should replace all forms of religion on Earth. However, I, along with every other Communist who has ever lived, don’t believe that this process should be carried out by force, but rather by peaceful education. Furthermore, I’m often the first to defend Christians when I see them being unfairly attacked due to misconceptions others may have about their religion. While I do philosophically oppose Christianity, and religion as a whole, I also believe in intellectual honesty. So, if someone criticizes Christianity for reasons I don’t agree with or based on flawed perceptions of Christian theology, I’m the first to defend it against those unjustified and misguided attacks. Do you think this stance counts as anti-theism?

Strictly speaking, no, but I feel bad that you currently hold that view. Are you familiar at all with Christian apologetics? Its the practice of using the mind to defend your faith, and not just rely on the Bible alone. I don’t agree with all their stances, but some of my favorite speakers in this regard include Frank Turek, Lee Strobel, Josh McDowell, and Kent Hovind. As the saying goes, “Christians don’t get points for being stupid”, and I think there’s a difference between having faith and BLIND faith. Also, your brief moment of considering the supernatural during your surgery reminds me of the phrase “There’s no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole.” If your life gets bad enough, you’ll end up crying out to something or Someone greater than yourself.

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#1610679
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Jokes thread : Reloaded
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Here’s one I read online and it made me laugh…

A woman decided to go ice-fishing. She gathered her gear, went to one side of the ice, and started to dig a hole. Suddenly, a voice rang out - “There are no fish under the ice!” Confused at first, the woman moved to the middle of the ice, and again began to dig a hole. The voice sounded again - “There are no fish under the ice!”

Finally, the woman moved to the ice’s far side, and for a third time began digging. The voice came again, louder than before - “There are no fish under the ice!” Exasperated and a little afraid, the woman screamed, “Is that you, God?” The voice responded - “No, this is the manager of the skating rink! There are no fish under the ice!”

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#1610676
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Religion
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I’m a Christian, but far from a perfect one. I was raised for a long time by fear-minded legalists, which resulted in my leaving the church at age 18 and not returning for 10 years. It was actually a college friend who helped me start trusting God again; I began visiting his church in 2008 and kept going until 2015 when I moved away.

My basic philosophy about religion is this: if any one of them is absolutely true, then by definition the rest have to be false. I don’t believe in picking and choosing to have a generic form of “faith” that just strokes your own ego. The fact of the matter is that either God exists, or He doesn’t - there’s no other option. If He does, then as our Creator He deserves our worship and obedience. If He doesn’t, then there’s no ultimate purpose to life and we’re all worm food in the end.

I’d also like to add that in my view, a very important distinction needs to be made between atheists and anti-theists. From what I’ve experienced in my life, your average atheist rejects God personally but has no problem with others thinking otherwise. Its the anti-theists who go nuts every time religious people (especially Christians) take a stand, hurling insults and character attacks.

I could go on with this for a while, but I think that’s enough for now. If anyone has a question for me about what I’ve said, feel free to post away and I’ll get back to you. God Bless!

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#1610671
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What's your favorite Steven Spielberg movie?
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This one’s easy for me - I adore “Hook”. I know Spielberg hasn’t favored it much in recent years, describing the Neverland scenes as being too confined or staged, but to me that’s appropriate, since the story was originally a stage play. He also had a very difficult time with Julia Roberts, going so far as to nickname her “Tinkerhell” and swearing never to hire her again. But I still love the film; the very notion of the personification of imagination losing his own, growing up in our world, and having to re-embrace his innocence to save his children from his sworn enemy? That’s pretty heavy drama, but it still works because of the writing and the actors. Robin Williams, Bob Hoskins, and Maggie Smith (all RIP) were great, but Dustin Hoffman stole the show. I’ve seen a few other Peter Pan movies since, but none have matched this one. I even bought the 3-disc expanded score on CD, earlier this year.

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#1610625
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Star Wars vs. A New Hope - Which do you say and why?
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I’ve never had a problem with the episode title for the original film, mainly because I knew that Lucas wanted to include it from the very start in 1977, but Fox wouldn’t let him. That didn’t change until it became a huge hit, and when audiences first saw the “Episode V” numeral on “The Empire Strikes Back”, they were confused. So Lucas re-released the original with its proper title in 1981, and its been called that ever since.

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#1610598
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Star Wars DVD Covers
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I made this set of covers around 2006 or so, for use with the official DVDs shortly after they first came out. Now obviously, this was long before the sequels started, and I had no idea that Drew Struzan would be retiring from his celebrated work as a professional poster artist. As such, I used all his posters for the front panels of these. Unfortunately, I deleted all the raw Photoshop files many years ago, so if I ever wanted to recreate these for Blu-Ray or 4K I’d have to start all over again. 😦

Anyway, here they are, if anyone wants them. Enjoy!

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#1610588
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Approaching Star Wars canon
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For me, the main canon consists of the six films George Lucas was directly involved with; everything else is debatable to various extents. For example, I think the recent live-action shows based on Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ahsoka Tano are pretty faithful to George’s themes and approaches - seeing Luke in “The Mandalorian” was awesome too. But other stuff like the sequels, “Rogue One”, “Solo”, and “The Acolyte” annoy me to no end.