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#265646
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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Originally posted by: TServo2049
Hey,

I was watching the Princess and the Cobbler version a while back, and I'm convinced that Ed E. Carroll's voice work for the Thief amounts simply to that stupid laugh that's added in when he does that dance during King Nod's speech. (Perhaps some of the other wheezing and coughing that's ADDED into the Calvert version, too, but I'm not sure about that...)

Ed E. Carroll, judging by his IMDB listing, is an American character actor, who mostly did bit parts in TV shows, made-for-TV movies, and low-grade films during the 80s. Since Carroll is American, I highly doubt that he would have done voice work on the Williams version; except for Vincent Price, everybody else in Williams' cast is British and/or generally worked in Britain. However, the Calvert voice cast was indeed comprised of Americans and/or talent that worked primarily in America. Ed E. Carroll seems to fall into that category.

As for who did the original wheezing and gasping, Patrick and I have mulled over the possibility that it might be Richard Williams himself...but don't quote me on that.

I always doubted that Ed E. Carroll was part of the original Williams production as many of his whines and laughing are exclusively in the Calvert cut. I noticed that in addition to the scene that you mentioned where the Thief laughs during King Nod's speech, the same voice can be heard as the Thief is traveling through the pipes of the castle earlier in the movie. As he gets stuck in the pipes, he whines in the Calvert cut while there is none in the original workprint soundtrack. The wheezing and coughing effects in the original workprint also sound very different from the added Thief audio in the Calvert cut.
IMDB lists someone named Ken Nordine as having done the voice of the Thief, which I highly doubt.
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#260348
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The Thief and the Cobbler: Recobbled Director's Cut (Released)
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I'm new to posting on these boards but have been following this thread since early in the year. I really liked the Recobbled Cut and it made me a fan of the film. Too bad about ocpmovie not being here anymore. He really did a lot for this movie.

If a Mark III were to be made with or without ocpmovie, would it be worth replacing the blurry AVI of the workprint with a 1st-gen PAL tape Jerry Verschoor has?
The VHS of the widescreen Princess cut that was used for Mark II looked pretty good from what I saw of it compared to what was used before.