I didn’t… but I did release a laserdisc rip some time ago.
Avisynth has a Stab() filter, but I’ve only really ever used it on anime, so I don’t know how well it would work on a live-action film.
I’ve honed my skills working on Detective Conan, where it’s frequent for an old episode to be aired remastered, but with a few scenes cut and the theme songs replaced with the current ones, or where occasionally it will be necessary to mix sources to work around news flashes and such on the TV rips. A lot of the same stuff goes into it that would go into despecializing Star Wars, so I figured I’d give it a new whack now that I have some actual experience.
Thanks, poita. 😃 And since I know you’re working on the 97SE of ANH, I’ll take you up on that - it might be the first we see of the 97SE in HD. (This is the version I saw in cinema, so it does hold some special place for me even though I prefer the pre-SE.)
I’m actually considering whether it would be worth working at full BD resolution for this one. I think that’s about 1920x820. That’s all I’d probably need - but I’ll probably take a little at a time, and keep the rest stored elsewhere (my friend has much more disk space than I do).
I think the next thing I need to do is get the actual BD (the latest version I have legit is the 06 DVD for ANH and 04 for all; for now, I’m using WOWOW rips, and can plug in the BD later).
I’m in no rush - kinda waiting on 4K77 to be my source for original unmodified footage anyway.
ETA: Most likely I’ll work in short bits, scene by scene, and first learn my enemy by putting the different versions side by side. Then when I’ve decided what to do, I’ll write it into the final code. With the flip of a switch I might be able to create a full despecialization or a 97SE despecialization.
Don’t mind, I speak jumbly already. XD The idea was to take the BD version, then roll it back to the 04, then roll it back to the 97SE, then roll it back to the OTVs - a progressive despecialization using everything available.
For example in ESB I would probably use 97SE footage of the Emperor, and I’d use some 97SE footage of the end of ROTJ, if enough of it survived to blend in with Yub Nub. And if 97 footage is higher quality, also, so be it.
IIRC, Harmy didn’t use any 97 sources. There may be places where doing so could be an improvement (e.g., ESB’s Emperor scene).
As having wanted to despecialize Star Wars myself I don’t see a conflict with there being 2 different versions in the future (and if I release such a thing it’ll be called “Rolled Back” rather than “Despecialized”, so there’s not going to be any name confusion). I don’t think my approach will be the same as his, so the results could be better, worse, or both. I’m mainly doing it for practice.
I haven’t seen any version of Despecialized - I pretty much stayed with straight GOUT until the SSE came out.
Warning: This may yet end in failure. These kinds of things happen all the time.
This is why I’ve been watching for Poita’s SE project and for 4K77. 😉
I made my first attempts at despecialization right when the DVDs came out, but at the time I knew nothing about video editing and all I had to work with was Virtual Dub. I’ve got a lot more resources at my disposal now, and I’ve started to wonder if I could pull it off now.
While I have tackled similar projects before with my current toolset (and they were larger in scope though simpler in nature; for example, I’ve done rollbacks of Pokémon) I haven’t gone back to do Star Wars. I think when we have a full scan of the 1997 edition, I’m going to do just that.
So let’s see, what would this entail sourcing?
- Obviously, the BluRays.
- An HD TS of the DVD master (2004). I don’t know what the best source of this is. I might even have access to at least one although if it’s Spike it might be cropped and thus less usable?
- Scans of the 97SE. Waiting on this.
- Scans of the OUT. In ANH’s case, I think I’ll wait for 4K77, but we do have the SSE too.
This would be a slightly different approach, I think, and will produce different results. I’m not trying to compete with Harmy, just take care of some unfinished business.
Doesn’t myspleen explicitly forbid taking torrents from public trackers and just reuploading them?
I’m used to my releases being chopped liver, just that my release of the series proper and the two specials happened to spark basically a conflagration over on a certain torrent site, so it was a bit of a different matter than usual. 😛
…is my work on the Z specials chopped liver?
This was certainly the first Star Wars I saw on anything larger than a 19" CRT, so…yeah 😉
The most complicated merging of two different-resolution sources I’ve done is pasting upsampled and downscaled 576p footage from one source onto 720p from another source (and I call it “punch-out”; I’ve done it with 480/480 too). Probably nothing near as elaborate as what you guys are proposing.
As long as it’s not just like what Toei would do (half-assed Q-TEC upscale of the DVD masters) I’ll prolly be fine with it.
I’d like to see proper 1080p scans of the 1997 trilogy.
Even if they just rescanned it at 1440x1080 and put it out warty, it would suffice me.
They’re not there to blend in, they’re there to intimidate.
Here’s hoping they can be convinced to follow this up with the extended cuts of the others, especially 2. xD
My friend in Portugal grew up with the same cartoons as I did and in English with subtitles, so…yeah 😉
On the leech.
I guess it’s time for the new mob craze “George Revisited First!”
But at least those folks have the GOTSE (George’s Original Trilogy Special Edition).
Wait… No. They’re stuck with the GTROTSE (George’s Thrice Revisited Original Trilogy Special Edition).
George’s Original Altered Trilogy Special Edition…oh wait…
I think they reverted the song and BGM changes and removed some of Phil Hartman’s lines?
It’s just the audio so I doubt it’ll matter, and I can’t say how long I can keep the file up but there’s no reason for me to delete it anytime soon…
PSB had a unique mix that we never knew existed.
I operate under two principles:
- “First do it; then you can go back and do it better.”
- “Perfect is the enemy of good enough.”
All I can say is the audio came from a FOAF, who got it from someone else who got it from someone else (except 2-17, those were one step from the source).
And indeed, those are exactly the sources I used, videowise.
I’m pretty sure I’ve coaxed TMPGE 2.5 to work on 8.1…