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- #709956
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- Blade Runner: The Complete Music Collection (work-in-progress)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/709956/action/topic#709956
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- #537317
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- 'Raiding The Lost Ark' - a filmumentary. (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/537317/action/topic#537317
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By the way, if you (or anyone) needs an excellent, audiophile grade transfer of the "Movie on Record" LP, let me know.
Had a very good copy of the LP, used a pro Ortofon cartridge/stylus on the 1200MKII, had an outboard A-D converter and only cleaned up the pops that were neccessary.
In other words, yes, I am serious about my audio!
If enough people want it maybe I can post it on my blog...
Also, it's worth noting that this album is a lot more than just "no narrator and having a few alternate takes."
This album was a serious colaboration between Burtt and the Public Radio engineers that created the STAR WARS radio programs. It's a from the ground-up audio reconstruction of the film, using all the original music, dialog and sound effects - but it IS a complete remix of the movie.
If you were to listen to the movie and LP simultaneously, very little of it would match! In any case, it's an incredible sonic experience (everyone agrees it's sound quality is unmatched) and if you're a fan it's really cool to hear a totally different version of the movie.
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- #311040
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- ***The NEW "official" Screenshots thread ***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/311040/action/topic#311040
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- #310350
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- Star Wars Prologue - Epic Prequel Edit (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310350/action/topic#310350
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1. I just get a feeling from the force that this is a project that will never be completed.
2. No matter how much hard work anyone puts into re-editing, re-mixing, re-grooming or re-rotoscoping Episode 1, it's STILL EPISODE 1!!!
Nothing is going to change THAT.
Short of a remake.
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- #310349
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310349/action/topic#310349
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Personally, I'd rather see an X0 version of EMPIRE; it's arguably the best of all SW movies and it deserves more attention!
Let's make 2009 the year we make any new ANH projects illegal :-)
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- #310277
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310277/action/topic#310277
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I know there is a long, drawn out war between those who are dying to see X0 and those who don't care anymore, but I really believe with every passing month more and more people don't care.
Before the GOUT was released, X0 was in very high demand.
After GOUT, interest waned but people still wanted to see a more accurate version on DVD.
Now that the OT is being seen in HD (albeit the special editions), interest in further, incremental improvements on the OT on DVD is even less in demand.
And, of course, there is always the possibility that Luca$ will release the OT himself in HD.
On the other hand, the XO team has learned a LOT about video clean up and preservation and it would be a shame to see those skills go to waste... there are still a fair number of films that are on laser disc that have never seen a DVD release, any most likely never will.
THOSE movies would greatly benefit from the X0 team's attention!
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- #310275
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- Info Wanted: any fan edits of (gasp) '2001'?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310275/action/topic#310275
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People seeing 2001 for the first time in a theater BEFORE the onslaught of visual effects movies were NOT bored; they were amazed and it was the Star Wars of it's day.
Even Kubrik has said it wasn't meant to be seen more than once. This is why people are bored with it now; they've seen it before, or they've seen plenty of effects before, or they're watching it on TV.
I have two ideas for a fan edit of this film.. one would essentially be "2001: The Repeat Viewing Cut" where I would simply tighten up the long, drawn out moments and pick up the pace, making the movie less of a "fast forward" festival and the other... well, the other I'm going to keep to myself for now just in case I actually do it!
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- #310194
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- ***The NEW "official" Screenshots thread ***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310194/action/topic#310194
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- #310193
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- Info Wanted: any fan edits of (gasp) '2001'?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310193/action/topic#310193
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My mission is clear!
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- #309835
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- Info Wanted: any fan edits of (gasp) '2001'?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309835/action/topic#309835
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Yes, it’s sacralige, but has anyone ever done and edit of 2001?
It would be interesting to some re-editing, cut down the “long” scenes and maybe play with the sound to make the film tighter and more straighforward (perhaps giving it a feel more in line with 2010).
Don’t get me wrong, 2001 is a masterpiece and whomever fan edits it may end up going straight to movie hell, but it IS a prime candidate; almost anyone who discusses the film, no matter how much they love it, admits it’s almost impossible to sit through more than once since it’s so long and drawn at at times.
Sounds like a fan edit project to me!
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- #309453
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- Help Wanted: A pitch-corrected Star Wars for PAL?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309453/action/topic#309453
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If you want to fix the speedup of PAL audio (which I do sometimes notice), you don't have to change the framerate at all; you can simply rip the audio and use some decent audio processing software to pitch-correct the sound WITHOUT changing the rate or length.
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- #309401
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- ***The NEW "official" Screenshots thread ***
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309401/action/topic#309401
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Sometimes PAL masters are made from 480 line NTSC masters so they don't look any better... but if the PAL DVDs were mastered from a hi-def or film source, they may very well look sharper.
I'd really like to know!
Moth3r, can these frames be added to the screenshots thread? Or can you test a few and do so if they actually show a difference?
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- #309355
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- Info: Fanboys doc?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309355/action/topic#309355
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- #309327
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- Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309327/action/topic#309327
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I can play both PAL & NTSC at home (my video projector accepts both signals) and a good PAL DVD looks considerably better, since it has 576 lines of resolution versus 480 for NTSC.
But not all PAL discs look better, since very often the PAL masters are made from NTSC sources and so there is essentially no added resolution (there is a site out there that compares PAL discs to NTSC and lets you know when there is a difference).
I'd love to know if the PAL special edition DVDs actually have a sharper picture than the NTSC, because downconverting the HD files to 576 PAL format would absolutely look better than an NTSC disc.
Ady, can you post a few frames from a PAL DVD? I can rip & compare to NTSC unless someone has already done this...
Edit: Hey Ady I just looked at your comparison... I can still definitely see more detail in the downconversion, but you're right, when playing back at speed the difference is just too slight to be worthwile. But the PAL thing is something I'd love to look into. A good PAL DVD of Star Wars with no 3:2 pulldown would look GLORIOUS!!
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- #309236
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- Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309236/action/topic#309236
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The "zoomed in R2" shot does not show improvement, but then again it's not a "real world" test.
If anyone cares to take a few frames from the DVD and downscale the same HD frames for comparison, that would be great.
Moth3r, since you have all the material, do you mind?
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- #309130
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- Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309130/action/topic#309130
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Also, the image posted of R2 shows a big difference too... I'm not sure what the second "downconverted" image is supposed to be, but the third image (which I assume started life at 1080) shows the same increase in detail.
Since this would be a fairly painless and straightforward process for someone who has the HD files and is good with DVD encoding, it sure would be great to see someone make a dual-layer DVD downconversion from the HD masters...
Or at least do a few scenes in a side-by-side test to see if, when watched on a TV, if you can see a reasonable difference...
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- #308829
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- Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308829/action/topic#308829
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Sounds like a worthwhile project... can someone who has these HD files who's good with MPEG authoring consider making an "HD2DVD" set of the films?
At least with the films that show an improvement over the commercial DVDs by doing so...
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- #308737
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- THE MATRIX EVOLUTIONS (Ver.2 DVD release now available)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308737/action/topic#308737
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I have two guesses:
1. The Ws didn't want to do sequels and the studios basically had other people ghost-write and direct them but still put the bros name on it (which is what they sequels FEEL like)
2. The Ws basically spent 10 years developing "The Matrix," slowly adding things to the mix, talking it out, "borrowing" from other sources, and just having fun creating this world they never actually expected to go anywhere. Then, when faced with having to do 2 more movies in 3 years, they just didn't have it in them; the first film basically exhausted all their creative inspiration and contained all their favorite "homages" where their true creativity came from.
I'm sure the first "conspiracy theory" is unlikely, but when you watch the first film it just feels so much like it was made by someone entirely different; none of the creative or stylistic genius of the first film is present in the sequels; it really is like someone else tried to capture the look at feel of The Matrix and turn it into a franchise without any true understanding of what made the original so great.
Then again, that's what Lucas did when he made HIS sequels (i.e. prequels). But then again, I think a lot of people now realize that Lucas' help (his producer Gary Kurtz, director Irvin Kershner) had a large role in crafting the early movies. Was there anyone with a big hand in "The Matrix" that was missing from the sequels?
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- #308736
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- Info Wanted: Whats the overall view on the best fan edits ?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308736/action/topic#308736
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My own work-in-progress cut of "Superman Returns" is about 20 minutes shorter, although the best compliment I got was when I screened it for friends and they said they couldn't tell what was missing.
I see that as a compliment because (to me) that means the essence of the film has been retained, the story still works and no one misses any of the previously existing "bloat."
If course this is what the ORIGINAL edit of all films should be like, but then we'd be out of a job ;-)
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- #308734
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- Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308734/action/topic#308734
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Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker
I might have guessed the '04 DVDs weren't from a 480-line master, but an HD one.
Are modern downconverting algorithms a lot better than four-year-old ones ?
I might have guessed the '04 DVDs weren't from a 480-line master, but an HD one.
Are modern downconverting algorithms a lot better than four-year-old ones ?
I would have guessed that too, but I have seen screenshots that compared a frame from the 2004 DVD with a downscaled frame from the recent HD broadcast and you could cleary see more detail and definition in the latter.
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- #308597
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- Wookie Groomer's 1080p Star Wars Saga project (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308597/action/topic#308597
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And before anyone asks "what's the point," a standard def downconversion from hi-def retains a LOT of extra detail and image clarity not present in a 480-line master.
I think someone posted a few screenshots demonstrating this using the 1080p files but I'm not sure if anyone has made and posted a DVD from it.
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- #308570
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- THE MATRIX EVOLUTIONS (Ver.2 DVD release now available)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308570/action/topic#308570
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Personally, I think the W brothers had probably planned that the big twist would be that the "real world" was a Matrix within the Matrix, the idea being that if people BELIEVED they had escaped, they wouldn't look any further. But I think since fans were predicting this would be the case, the film makers abandoned that idea just to avoid being predictable.
Even though that concept, in my mind, is the only true logical progression of the story.
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- #308567
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- The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308567/action/topic#308567
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It's a good idea to have Grevious be a foreshadow of Vader, but wow, talk about poor execution.
I think the Phantom Editor was probably being a bit glib in his comments; obviously he's a big Star Wars fan and I'm sure he's already done an edit of Ep 3 in his head. I think now that his identity is known the appeal of doing another edit has been diminished, but I'd like to think that one day he'll find the time and stop resisting the urge.
Every now and then I email him and poke him about it! I'd still guess he WANTS to do it, the moment just has to be right...
Who knows, maybe he's right and Ep 3 can't be helped... although I think it has some of the best moments in the prequels, it would be nice to think something can be done.
SithLord did a GREAT job with the first 15 minutes, his recut of the opening battle is pretty much perfect. I wonder what can be done with the Palpatine scene, when Ben and Anakin walk in it just doesn't work for me, why would a hostage be kept unguarded in this giant room? I know it's essentially a setup for Anakin to kill Dukoo, but the scene moves so slowly and it's so awkward. And Sithlord didn't really do much with Grevious.
ANyway, I'm just talking out loud. I'd have to really sit down with Ep 3 and have a serious, analytical viewing to see if there is enough good material to be salvaged.
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- #308537
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- Info Wanted: Whats the overall view on the best fan edits ?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308537/action/topic#308537
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He cut around 20 minutes out of the film and it is NOT missed.
Honestly, the main reason I haven't watched any other edit is the running times of them are too close to the original - if you HAVEN'T cut at least 15 minutes out of that movie, I don't think you've hit the mark.
I watched about half of SithLords's Ep 3 "remix" so far and I do like it better than the original. I'd still like to see someone go further.
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- #308505
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- The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/308505/action/topic#308505
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But one thing that lept out at me was, no matter how much you edit that movie, one of it's biggest problems is Grevious (to me, anyway). His awful, simplistic, 2-dimensional dialog makes him no better than a moustache-twirling bad guy in a black cape. He REALLY hurts the film for me.
But, as has been pointed out here, new dialog can be dubbed for him, which I think would go a LONG way towards improving this movie. Just cutting out his coughing and laughing would make the character so much less offensive.
Perhaps less is more with the General, and instead of replacing ALL his dialog, simply cutting it out and adding speech only where absolutely neccessary would make him more sinister.
I really wish the Phantom Editor would take a stab at Episode 3 - in my humble opinion, "Attack of the Phantom" is the all-time best fan edit ever and I'd love to see what he would do with the last installment.