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#223896
Topic
Soundtrack Listing
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Originally posted by: Neil S. Bulk
Star Wars

The Empire Strikes Back

Return of the Jedi

Neil

Thanks Mr. Bulk. i thought that you might be able to help. This might interest you. Another non-anamorphic DVD release in 2006. For shame. The strange thing is that this particulra season was filmed in widescreen, and they only decided to release it as such after a mass letter-writing campaign. Future sets will be 16X9. You think in 2006 widesceen automatically=anamorphic. Thanks again sir.

Are you also interested in his other soundtrack recordings, or just the Star Wars movies?


Well, I obviously brough this up here because it's a Star Wars forum, but I'd be most interested in other soundtracks as well. Thanks.
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#223544
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O

Since it is "bonus material," they technically don't have to list anything about, or at least that is what it looks like. I wonder how much of the general population will buy this release; in other words, I wonder if it's just us who are interested in the OOT, or whether others are as well. I hope against hope that this release will sell well and send a clear message to LFL, but who knows? If the 30th Anniversary boxed set did contain high-quality releases of the OOT, I would buy it without question. But at this point, it looks like everything is up in the air.

Whatever became of the plan to mail back the SE discs? Is it still going on? And how many people are doing it. Just idol curiosity.

I think they will sell very well. I'm sure they're going to be marketing them heavily, especially since they are a "limited edition" to go out of print right after Christmas. I think they will use nostalgia as a marketing tool, and aim them at those who were old enough to have seen them in the theaters originally (baby boomers and gen-Xers).

I'm planning on sending my discs back to Lucasfilm. I was considering selling them on eBay, but I doubt I will get very much for them.

Who else is planning on sending their SE discs back to GL???


I sincerely hope that you are right, the discs sell well, and that LFL is sent a clear message. At this point, all I can do is cross my fingers. Still, LFL aren't exactly shy about multiple release, and the MTV interview commments by Lucas are very telling. Are LFL marketing the heck out of this? I haven't seen any adds yet. Well, it's back to the waiting game. Those sending back their SE discs are mentioned at the beginning of the thread. I wonder if anyone else is going to be involved?
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#223519
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O

See, now, here's the catch 22. Since a lot of people won't buy non-anamorphic releases, it may affect sales. The question is, how good will sales of these releases be and what kind of message will that send? I suppose that we'll find out in a few months. Lets keep our fingers crossed...apparently for the next year at least.


"It probably won't say on the package "non-anamorphic" just "widescreen-letterbox" or just "widescreen". Those who don't visit these boards probably won't even know until they get home and try to watch it on their widescreen TV."


Since it is "bonus material," they technically don't have to list anything about, or at least that is what it looks like. I wonder how much of the general population will buy this release; in other words, I wonder if it's just us who are interested in the OOT, or whether others are as well. I hope against hope that this release will sell well and send a clear message to LFL, but who knows? If the 30th Anniversary boxed set did contain high-quality releases of the OOT, I would buy it without question. But at this point, it looks like everything is up in the air.

Whatever became of the plan to mail back the SE discs? Is it still going on? And how many people are doing it. Just idle curiosity.

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#223517
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What is meant by 'Special Edition'?
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
You are correct that only the 1997 edition was ever subtitled or advertised as the Special Edition. In 2000, Lucasfilm rereleased the Special Edition on VHS as simply the "Star Wars Trilogy." However, the 2004 edition is colloquially (and occasionally officially) referred to as the Special Edition, too. You can speculate all you want about why they're so coy over which version is which, but I don't think you'll ever reach a firm answer.


Lucasfilm's recent offical response to the fans displeased with the non-anamporphic transfer referenced it as the Special Edition. Perhaps it has stopped being subtitled as such because of Lucas's desire to make it into the only version.

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#223515
Topic
Remember when everyone hated Return of the Jedi?
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Originally posted by: Invader Jenny
Originally posted by: JediFlyer06
Ewoks were not a horrendous BACKGROUND character. But, even at the age of eleven, I never believed that a band of teddy bears with sticks and stones would defeat a legion of the Emperor's best troops in a single afternoon..."not no way, not no how." That was just silly.


You see, that's strange. When I was 11 and saw ROTJ for the first time I thought that the Ewoks worked brilliantly. They were the embodiment of innocents, hope, and goodness. The stormtroopers were harsh, military, narrow minded (and weak minded) drones who's only task was to do what the emperor told them. It's a classic subplot on a variation of David and Golith.

To this day, I don't have problems with Ewoks. I know that everybody hates them, but I don't. They are proof that you don't need military superiority to win an impossible battle. You just need srength of will. Sure they lost some Ewoks on the way, but in the end good won over evil.


Mind-bogglingly bizzare though it may sound, I actually once heard the Ewoks refereced as an allegory for Vietnam (okay...). To me Return of the Jedi suffers from the same sydrome as movies like Alien 3 and Romero's Day of the Dead. While it has many good elements in its own right, it is overshadowed by it's two vastly superior predecessors, and a series of flaws. In other words, "there's a good movie in here somewhere" syndrome. Other examples may include Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines and The Godfather, Part III. As for the Ewoks being able to beat the Stormtroopers, that is in many ways true, and I do find it odd that the the Stormtroopers, as the force for the most evil Empire in the galaxy sure don't seem to be the sharpest tools in the intergalactic shed. Interesting interpretation Jenny. I think that part of the reason that Jedi is looked upon the way that it is that like the afforementioned over/underrated films previously mentioned, it serves more to tie up loose ends than anything else. Jedi has some great elements( the space battle and the superb Luke-Vader sequence at the finale for instance), but it's whole seems to be less than the sum of its parts. I enjoy it for what it is, but I certainly think that there is a great deal of validity to the claims that it is not a fitting end to the trilogy in comparison to Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. A lot more could be said about Jedi, but this post is too long already, so I'll stop now.
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#221389
Topic
What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Click on this link:

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Originally posted by: Ozkeeper
Slow to post, but here is link to the quote from GL mentioned a page or so back.


George-Now we'll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions.
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Ah, I see. Good point. I just hope that he meant what we think that he meant. I guess what I mean is, even if he is testing the waters, I wonder whether or not this will dictate future releases (and if it will, then hopefully we can see theatrical version of THX 1138 at some point).

'Until then, he says he's curious to see what the reception will be for the upcoming limited-edition DVD release of the three original "Star Wars" films (see "Three Original 'Star Wars' Films (Finally) Coming To DVD — But Not For Long"). "It's just the original versions, as they were," Lucas said. "We didn't do anything to it at all. But we're not sure how many people want that."

You might say quite a few, considering how many fans were angered by the digitized, expanded updates of episodes IV, V and VI. Lucas claims he's not re-releasing the originals to appease fans, but rather to bate them. "Now we'll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions," he said. "It'll all come out in the end."'

See, now, here's the catch 22. Since a lot of people won't buy non-anamorphic releases, it may affect sales. The question is, how good will sales of these releases be and what kind of message will that send? I suppose that we'll find out in a few months. Lets keep our fingers crossed...apparently for the next year at least.
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#221387
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What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Obviously this release shows that Lucas has changed his mind about never releasing the OOT on DVD at all. The question is whether this it, or whether future release, as well as a restoration, an anamorphic transfer, and 2.0 and 5.1 and mono sound are in the future of OOT DVD releases. I don't know whether the OOT will be on the 30th anniversary set, and I also don't know whether they will ever see the light of day on Blu-Ray, HD, or future formats. Still, to be optimistic, if the 2007 set is going to be "archival," then perhaps it will be on there. Maybe, just maybe, if this release sells well, Lucas will see that there is a market for it and continue with releases of it. It seems that this is a waiting game again. Right now, all that we can do is wait and hope. Thanks for making me feel welcome on the forums, by the way.

"We don't have to wonder if he's testing the waters with these DVDs anymore- because he's basically admitted it already."

In what way?
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#221336
Topic
What are you going to do with your SE discs?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Ozkeeper
Slow to post, but here is link to the quote from GL mentioned a page or so back.


George-Now we'll find out whether they really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions.

Thanks very much for that link.

He also says:
"It's just the original versions, as they were," Lucas said. "We didn't do anything to it at all. But we're not sure how many people want that."

He really has no clue.


I was thinking that perhaps, now that all six episodes have come out and the saga is over, the OOT is the only thing left that has not been released. And since LFL often release multiple releases of the Star Wars films, perhaps this is just testing the waters. However, as mentioned, it's a catch 22, since this release could dictate future releases, especially with the 30th anniversary coming up. It's a vain hope, I know, and it seems like a foolishly optimistic, but who knows? That thought can help me sleep at night, anyway .
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#220308
Topic
Addresses and contacts for various media outlets go in here
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O
Given that about 75,000 people signed the petition, perhaps Jay could enlist their support and we could all agree on a specific day to send e-mails. Given the influx of new members, if these addresses all receve 75,000+ e-mails on the same topic on same day, it'd be hard for them to ignore. Just a suggestion.

That's a fantastic idea- Jay has the email addresses for everyone who signed the petition, maybe he could send out an email to everyone on the list and ask them to help out.


Thanks. I'm new here. It's nice to feel welcome.

"In answer to your question, the Library of Congress would HAVE TO have prints of all three films, as they must have copies of all printed/filmed material on record. Lucas saying that there are no prints is misleading at best, an outright fib at worst."

Didn't Lucas do everything that he could to destroy all possible prints of the original versions of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi to ensure that the SE are only versions in existence? And then there is the question of the 35mm stereo, the 70 mm six-track, and the mono.