this is an English preservation project of THX with a little extra for the fans... this being an extra disc with the Italian version of the film subtitled in English.
That's even better. Thanks for the info. :)
Sorry, Leo...I just liked your Italian comment, and had a little fun with it. ;)
(Heck I don't even watch the show!)
especially for Italians
After Jersey Shore, I think THEY owe US. :P
it's unfortunately stuck in the frame for several minutes, don't remember exactly how long
Does it move at all, like a loose thread? That could be removed in Combustion. I was able to remove similar stuff in ANH, like tape splices.
Oh... Then is there a recommended English preservation/restoration out there?
That's what I was hoping for as well.
Coming into this project pretty late....but I love THX.
I went back a few pages, but didn't find answers to the questions I had:
1) Are you using the Italian transfer for the entire film, including scenes with Italian writing onscreen?
2) Will there only be an Italian soundtrack with English subtitles?
3) How long is the segment with the white "thingie" on the left side?
As far as I can tell, changing the rendering quality on the project tab only effects the quality of the preview window during the render.
I never said the quality difference would be night and day. It depends on what you are encoding. Furthermore, the preview window is showing you what the video will look like at that level of quality. The problem is, you don't know what differences to look for, so the differences aren't apparent to you.
Find a scene with fast motion, and view the frame under GOOD quality, and then PREVIEW quality. GOOD quality shows the differences between the fields, sometimes resulting in a double-image (motion between the fields). The PREVIEW quality isn't as precise, so it only shows one of the fields. at 30 fps, this isn't a big deal, but when I wanted to slow down the video, the difference between fields was obvious. Therefore, I rendered this section out under PREVIEW quality, ran it through my SlowMotion program, and put the new segment back in the timeline. Later, I rendered the whole video, along with this new segment, in GOOD quality.
Video under GOOD quality:
Video under PREVIEW quality:
As you can see, there are much cleaner lines in high motion videos.
Hey, I don't mind answering questions...if it helps someone learn something new. :)
This could be a very handy feature for you. These tabs let you handle various video and audio settings as well. For example, I've tweaked the MPEG settings here to get a large MPG file to fit onto a DVD (You get a bigger difference lowering the average bit-rate, rather than the max bit-rate.) You can also include audio with your MPEG file here. I still render the audio separately, but including the audio makes it easier to spot check syncing issues in the video before rendering to DVD. You can also review your audio and video simultaneously.
How is the DVD (or Blu-ray) different?
Although things can look different/weird depending on how low the preview quality is set at, it has nothing to do with the quality of the rendered video.
You are correct that the Preview quality is independent of rendered quality, but....you can alter the actual quality of the rendered video to any of the same four levels. When I am rendering video that is to be slowed down, either in Vegas or in 3rd party software, I will render it in Preview quality to cut down on frame/field artifacts. Go to Render a video, and click on the Custom button. Under the Project tab is the setting Video Rendering Quality to see the four settings.
First of all, what video editor are you using?
Secondly, don't worry too much about a frame here or there, as long as your audio and video line up. That frame is one of 30 that will be shown in a single second - it's not going to be missed. ;)
The X0 is only an NTSC player. I don't recall that any of us had a PAL player.
Doctor M said:
Don't mistake a commercial remaster for what we enthusiasts do: pushing the audio through a DPL decoder, saving the separate channels and encoding it as 5.1.
I remember when I first suggested this (and then, ultimately, did it.) and being laughed at for it. ;)
I recall that, when importing my finished MPEG and WAV files from Vegas into DVDLab-Pro, the time length would be off by a second or two. Nonetheless, they would be in sync after rendering to VOB. Are the videos in sync in the timeline?
Masking would be used if you want to isolate a particular area of an image from the whole frame (You could either show just that part, or invert the mask, which would show everything except that part.)
If it's an static image file, then you can paint out the sections in Photoshop, save as a PNG or PDF, and then turn on transparency on the image in Vegas.
I have that issue on occasion, and all I do is trim off 1 frame from the end of the clip that's causing the problem.
That's basically the problem - you have a blended frame. Something else to consider with Vegas is that certain effects can appear or disappear depending on the level of detail you are using to watch the timeline (Draft/Preview/Good/Best). For example, when I was making soccer videos for my kids, I would sometimes render out fast action segments in Preview quality, because it reduced the instances of field artifacts. I put these segments back into the timeline, and then rendered out the whole video, including those segments, in Good quality (which is usually fine for most projects.)
So, you are saying all the channels work except for the center channel (dialogue)?
What software are you using to playback the DVD files? Is the audio setup set up for 5.1?
The program SUPER is great for converting as well.
Also, Vegas can accept most VOBs, but it's not perfect. Some VOBs can cause problems, such as multiple angles (i.e. the multi-language crawl in Star Wars.) It is best to convert the VOB to huffy first, both for stability and speed.
Chances are you'll have to start from scratch.
Jetrell Fo said:
When I get to the end of Side A, the last visible frame is the one I make my end cut at. Beginning of Side B, the first visible scene I mark and then go all the way to the end of that side and again cut the last visible scene I see.
I'm recording 1 side at a time and then I go back and trim each one separately so I can put them all together at the end.
Is that confusing? I think I lost myself......LMAO
It also depends on your source. The side breaks are different between the SW Def. Col. and the THX Faces set. They break at the same parts, but the audio carries on past the video on one of the sets (I don't recall which). This was especially apparent when Alderaan is destroyed.
I believe I have the actual magazine...but I'd have to look for it. What in particular information were you looking for?
Don't worry, my sarcasm detector didn't go off. ;)
Actually, between those two pics, the two biggest differences I see are different black levels and a vertical height difference of about a half-inch. (Not surprising since, if I remember correctly, all the official SW releases were altered to 16x9. It's been awhile since I've watched any of the SW films.)
And there was a lot of talk, both throughout this thread (if you don't mind going through the various posts) and in our private board about such topics as editing in RGB and wavelength analysis. A lot of the stuff was beyond my capabilities at the time. To quote Han Solo, "Laserman was the brains, sweetheart". My contribution was largely going to be the manual labor, cleaning up the obvious stuff, which meant frame-by-frame analysis in Combustion. I probably would have done more after that, but we lost contact with L just as we were starting to ramp all this stuff up to speed. His technical contributions really were the base of this whole operation.
The LD transfers needed a LOT of work, and while there's still a lot that could be done, I don't know if we could still, at this point, accomplish all that we had hoped without finding someone else of L's level of expertise.
The "Fuss" was that it wasn't solely about the transfer, but also about how we were going to fix up the video afterwards. That's where Laserman's expertise came in.
If you want to try making those kinds of corrections with the MPEG of the GOUT, be my guest.
In fact, the banding I see in AviSynth's histogram("classic") view suggests to me that the raw files have already had some form of levels adjustment. MeBeJedi, did you do anything else with these files apart from the IVTC?
No, there's banding. There are other problems as well. If you have the scene of R2 going through the canyon, there's some definite problems there as well. I don't remember the technical term, but there's rolling interference in the scene. I remember comparing my capture from my V8000 to Laserman's, and it turned out that the X0 really highlighted the problems with the transfer. My transfer looked "cleaner", because a lot of the problematic details didn't show up. That's why I was spending so much time trying to get rid of missing pixels and "debris".
I haven't been on the X0 board in awhile, but I remember telling him about the missing disc, and he said he'd look for it. I believe it was around that time he dropped a hard drive and hoped that wasn't the one that had the files.
I was wondering...when his wife emailed us, did she do it with his email, or her own email. Maybe we could contact her and find out what happened to him. I'm leaning towards assuming the worse, since he never responded himself, but you never know.
As for the LD, see if the LD will fit in one of those new "If it fits, it ships" boxes, and just fill it with packing peanuts.
This is the raw capture, yes. It's the exact same set of files Laserman sent the rest of us after the capture was done. I would assume he IVTC'd them himself before sending to save on disk space, as the frame rate is already 23.976.
Actually, it was I that IVTC'd them I have the true master files. After IVTC'ing, I broke them up onto DVDs to send to the rest of the X0 group. ;)
Hey, Zion...did you send my LD yet?
I take it there are no enterprising Usenetters here anymore? :(