Did someone else think that Kylo Ren’s turn back to light after the Deathstar duel felt somewhat anticlimatic?
When I saw the movie I was far more engaged up until that point then with what happended after that part.
Dark Empire never said “Sith” besides the scene where Palpatine visits Korriban, and it’s made clear in that scene that Palpatine isn’t one of them.
In Rise of Skywalker, Palpatine being a “Sith” and his desire for “the Sith” to be “reborn” is frequently mentioned.
Obviously not everything is exactly like in the Comic but it often is far to similar to be a coincidence. I now looked up the comic again and to me it looks like they even nearly copypasted some shots from the comic.
The entrance to Exegol for example looks extremely similar to Palpatines arrival on Korriban. (the big Sith statues to the side, the ship in the background even the camera angle)
Another example is how Palpatine is consumed by his own Force power. Look at the scene that happens on the Eclipse in the comic and compare it to the movie. (camera angle, Palpatines pose, the look of his face)
George Lucas supposedly really liked Dark Empire. That might be a reason that they would go for it.
But I think they also drew from the Jedi Prince book series. Rey’s story they probably took from there.
This movie seems like a loose adaption of the Dark Empire comics to me. The whole Palpatine arc looks to be directly taken from that.
Something that took me years to notize is that there is at least one Jedi Knight that fights with two lightsabers in the arena battle in Episode 2. You can spot him in multiple shots in the background.
Since this is mainly based on a german source I would like to ask if there is a german version availble of this (i.e. german crawl, subtitles etc.) like there is for the Despecilized Edition?
I ask this because from what I read this then might be the best available version of the Prequels without the awful 2011 changes (cgi Yoda in Episode I, wrong order of shots in Episode II mainly) to go with the german Despecialized Edition of the OT.
Ah ok, i misunderstood it.
Thank you for the infos.
I now got the VHS running and I think the audio track was NOT just cut in the missing scene. During the sequence where the Tantive IV is hit by the turbolaser the music is different. I think they play a small part of the original music from the cut sequence here instead…
I would do it like that:
Original Trilogy first (NOT Special Edition)
Then all movies in chronological order. (Here the Special Edition for the OT can be used, Unsure if I would include Rogue One and Solo in between the numbered movies or put them after them)
That cut version was shown in 2000 because like I said we recorded it on VHS and I have seen this recording countless times as a kid. 1990 was just the first time ever this TV-cut has been shown.
The Audio part of the missing sequence was just missing as well, if I remember correctly. It must have worked quite well, because I never realized that this was a missing scene and not something from the Special Edition until years later.
Thank you for this. 😃
I found out another thing. The version PRO7 showed in 2000 was not the real original version. It was a special cut for TV where a single shot of the front view of TantiveIV and the Star Destroyer in the beginning of the movie is missing. You can read about this version here https://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=463266
For years I thought this shot was a new addition from the special edition because of that.
Excuse me if this might be obvious, but would the new releases on DVD have the 2011 version changes (Darth Vader NOOO, Rocks in front of R2D2) or are these just identical to the older DVD versions?
I don’t have the Magazine, just the small part about the movie cut out.
It’s not much so I’ve made a transcription:
20.15 PRO 7 Krieg der Sterne
Nach zwei Jahren Tv-Pause endlich wieder auf dem Bildschirm: George Lucas’ Kultfilm über die Rettung des Universums
Science Fiction
Das neueste “Star-Wars”-Abenteuer (“Episode 1”) schrieb 1999 Filmgeschichte: In den ersten 24 Stunden spielte der Streifen an US-Kinokassen 51,65 Mio. Dollar ein - soviel wie keiner zuvor! Wie alles begann mit Han Solo, Luke Skywalker & Co., kann man hier noch einmal verfolgen, PRO 7 zeigt allerdings die Originalfassung und noch nicht die neue, auf Video längst veröffentlichte überarbeitete Version (mit sattem digitalen Surroundsound, mit einer komplett neuen Szene und ein paar versteckten zusätzlichen Gags). Mit damals revolutionärer Tricktechnik, einem Panoptikum phantasievoller Sternenkrieger sowie atemberaubenden Actionsequenzen gelang George Lucas 1977 die Renaissance eines schon längst totgesagten Filmgenres: der “Weltraumoper”. Teil 2 und 3 zeigt PRO 7 an den kommenden Samstagen.
160 Min.
USA, 1977 D: Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher, Peter Cushing, Peter Mayhew R: George Lucas
Yes, it was already known for a while that Lucas wasn’t fond of TFA, but now it is clearly confirmed by the Disney side.
And I’m really completely on Lucas’ side with this because I absolutely felt the same like him. TFA is clearly my least liked numbered Star Wars movie (I still wouldn’t say that I “hate” it) to date. I’m actually glad I saw Rogue One before it. I’m actually curious how Lucas thinks about TLJ, because in interviews he wasn’t very outspoken about that.
If the previous trilogies are anything to go by, then this movie should make more than TLJ but less than TFA. Should the results be actually worse than TLJ (which would surprise me)there will probably be a lot of discussion about reasons. Those who think Last Jedi killed Star Wars will be “told you so”, others might argue there is a fatigue caused by to many movies/ the spinoffs. That’s most likely what Disney would assume. They already think it’s the main reason for Solo underperfomance.
This is interesting, because the first time ever I saw Star Wars might be the last time Pro7 showed the original versions. We actually recorded them on VHS. We also kept the corresponding TV Magazine article and it says “Nach zwei Jahren TV-Pause endlich wieder auf dem Bildschirm”. So according to your findings I guess it was 2000 then. The magazine article also talks about Episode I that already has been released in 1999, and they say this broadcast is not yet the Special Edition but the orginals.
This is really hard, but if I could remove only one thing, it would probably be the Jabba scene in A New Hope. Jabba Looks wrong to me here, doesn’t matter if it is the 1997 or 2004 version. The scene itself is also bad and pointless. Why would Jabba show up in person in Mos Eisley? Seems out of character with how he is depicted in Episode VI. The worst however is, that you see him here in the first place. It was better to only hear about him in the first two movies and finally see him in the third. This added scene takes away the surprise for new viewers. They also shoehorned in Boba Fett.
Ich schließe mich meinen Vorpostern an und möchte darum bitten, dass mir jemand die Links zu den drei Filmen bzw. die Anleitung, wie man sie bekommt, als PM zuschicken könnte.
Mit Freundlichen Grüßen