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#1445052
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Episode I: The Eyepainter Fanedit * v3 1080p and 720p now online * (Commentary a WIP)
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Eyepainter said:

Mario said:

Eyepainter said:

The original ending to my edit isn’t in and of itself bad. However, there were things I didn’t know about editing back when I worked on Episode I. One thing I didn’t know was how to restructure and rearrange entire scenes. That was something I didn’t learn until Episode II forced me to. The arrangement of Episode I’s ending for v1 and v2 was pretty much exactly as it was theatrically. However, the arrangement and cutting between the four story lines was excessively messy in the theatrical version as well. So, for v3, I wanted to get those scenes rearranged into something that was simpler and easier to follow.

I decided to tackle the four endings using a three-act-structure approach, which is pretentious language talk for basic writing 101. I would start with the first act and set up the four plotlines (which ended up just as it was theatrically), then get into the second act where the conflict parts of all four storylines go on (and also where the changes officially begin), take all four storylines to their lowest point (A.K.A. the gungans lose, Anakin gets hit, Obi-Wan loses his lightsaber, etc.) and finally reach the resolution of all four plotlines by giving them a third act. My hope is that restructuring the endings this way will make the ending a lot simpler and easier to follow than it already is.

As for the Gunga city scene, don’t expect a major overhaul. It is just two extra shots after all. However, it may pad out the scene a little more.

I like the suggestion about Anakin hearing Qui-Gon’s voice, but there’s a problem with how fast the scene goes by. There aren’t any shots long enough to contain Qui-Gon’s line until after Anakin has sealed the control ship’s fate and gone flying his way out. Most of the shots in the theatrical version before Anakin shoots his way out are very short. I think most of them are only one or two seconds on average. It would be a really cool idea if it could be done, but I’m not sure how at the moment.

I had never a problem with the structure of the final battle, but I’m really looking forward to see what you have do with your edit. I will enjoy it 😏 The point with Qui Gons Voice is correct. The scene is too short.

Yup. I was afraid of that. Anyway, I’m sending the PM for the lossless version now. I’ll see if I can upload the compressed version today once I get off work.

Thank you for the link. 😏 Let’s see what you have do 😎

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#1445042
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Episode I: The Eyepainter Fanedit * v3 1080p and 720p now online * (Commentary a WIP)
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Eyepainter said:

The original ending to my edit isn’t in and of itself bad. However, there were things I didn’t know about editing back when I worked on Episode I. One thing I didn’t know was how to restructure and rearrange entire scenes. That was something I didn’t learn until Episode II forced me to. The arrangement of Episode I’s ending for v1 and v2 was pretty much exactly as it was theatrically. However, the arrangement and cutting between the four story lines was excessively messy in the theatrical version as well. So, for v3, I wanted to get those scenes rearranged into something that was simpler and easier to follow.

I decided to tackle the four endings using a three-act-structure approach, which is pretentious language talk for basic writing 101. I would start with the first act and set up the four plotlines (which ended up just as it was theatrically), then get into the second act where the conflict parts of all four storylines go on (and also where the changes officially begin), take all four storylines to their lowest point (A.K.A. the gungans lose, Anakin gets hit, Obi-Wan loses his lightsaber, etc.) and finally reach the resolution of all four plotlines by giving them a third act. My hope is that restructuring the endings this way will make the ending a lot simpler and easier to follow than it already is.

As for the Gunga city scene, don’t expect a major overhaul. It is just two extra shots after all. However, it may pad out the scene a little more.

I like the suggestion about Anakin hearing Qui-Gon’s voice, but there’s a problem with how fast the scene goes by. There aren’t any shots long enough to contain Qui-Gon’s line until after Anakin has sealed the control ship’s fate and gone flying his way out. Most of the shots in the theatrical version before Anakin shoots his way out are very short. I think most of them are only one or two seconds on average. It would be a really cool idea if it could be done, but I’m not sure how at the moment.

I had never a problem with the structure of the final battle, but I’m really looking forward to see what you have do with your edit. I will enjoy it 😏 The point with Qui Gons Voice is correct. The scene is too short.

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#1444926
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Episode I: The Eyepainter Fanedit * v3 1080p and 720p now online * (Commentary a WIP)
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Eyepainter said:

You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

I do agree to a certain extent with the Gungan city trip scene. Although the trip to Gungan city was always an awful one, and highlighted a lot of the things that everyone hated about Jar Jar. I did add a shot or two of Jar Jar back into the movie for v3 to fix the pacing issue somewhat, although it’s still likely to be an issue.

I appreciate that you enjoyed Anakin’s relationship with his mother. My own mom died of colon cancer while I was editing Episode II. Her health was already failing while I worked on Episode I, and I think a lot of the emotional turmoil going on with the family influenced my editing decisions for Anakin’s relationship with his mother throughout the prequels.

I’m also glad that you enjoyed the ending, even if it wasn’t 100% what I intended. I’ve restructured the ending to v3 to fix some of the pacing issues, add in more of l8wrtr’s influence, and give the ending a more complete feel. I’m curious to see how v1 and v2’s ending compares with v3. I’ll be happy to send you the link once I’ve released it.

I’m curious how you will handle the Gunga City scene in v3. I am think it is best to remove the scene completely, as Hal9000 did for example.

I would like to express my condolences to you. I know how you feel. Either way, I find the scenes between Anakin and Shmi in episode 1 and 2 beautiful and important to Anakin’s character, and they offer emotional depth.

What exactly do you dislike about your end? I saw the edit of l8wrtr a long time ago. I am very curious what you have planned.

I think it would be great if we could hear Qui Gons voice in before Anakin destroys the droid control ship. Qui Gon’s “Feel. Don’t think. Use your instinct”, would fit very well. Just like Luke hears Ben’s voice before the destroys the Deathstar.

I’m happy to receive the link to v3.🙂

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#1444735
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Episode I: The Eyepainter Fanedit * v3 1080p and 720p now online * (Commentary a WIP)
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Hi Eyepainter.

I saw v2 and really enjoyed it. You cut a lot things that I wouldn’t cut, but that’s personal taste. Your edit is really fast paced and flows fine. Most of the cuts are seamless. A few cuts are a little bit too fast for me. For example the trip to Gunga City. Things that I really liked: The way how you completely removed R2D2 and C3PO from the entire movie. The farewell between Anakin and his mother seems much more emotional in your edit. And the ending is handled very well. Not my favorite edit, but an really good FanEdit. Thanks for your hard work. LG Mario

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#1444387
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The Last Jedi: A Spark of Hope (Released)
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lantern51 said:

Mario said:

The training scene looks really amazing. That’s are scenes I will see in the movie. If the final version is released I would get the link please 🙂

Thank you. I worked hard on it. I will be happy to get links out when it’s done. I have about 45 minutes of the movie to edit and then I have to watch it for any other possible errors.

Youre welcome. I love the idea with the Trainingscene since Ivan Ortegas edit, and your scene is much better. I’m excited to see the rest of the edit. Take the time you need and it will be awesome.

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#1368427
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KILL SHEEV - A Tarantino-ish Original Trilogy Edit (a WIP)
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IlFanEditore said:

Yeah, I’m thinking about that aswell. I’ll need to see how it’ll fit with Kill Bill music. For example, in Ben/Vader duel I’ll use the music from the Bride/O’Ren duel.

The music is really a challenge. To the bride vs. O’Ren music I thought too. Unfortunately there is no equivalent to the Crazy 88 fight.

A few thoughts from me: Battle of Yavin - instead of the fanfare, you can use the pulp fiction theme music.
As an equivalent to the Star Trek quote … maybe … “Fear is to angry. Angry is to hate …” or something else.

Equivalent to the scene O’Ren beheads the Yakuza Boss - Vader strangles the Imperial Guy with the Force.

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#1368339
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KILL SHEEV - A Tarantino-ish Original Trilogy Edit (a WIP)
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Thank you.
Then Battle of Hoth it is!
Yes, during introduction of Leia I’ll show scenes from ANH. I don’t know if I’ll use prequel scenes for Obi Wan. Hattori Hanzo in Kill Bill (Obi Wan’s counterpart) didn’t have any flashback-y introduction.
But I’ll use prequel and Clone Wars scenes to tell the story of Darth Vader.

Youre welcome. You are right. Hattori Hanzo is a more serious Character like Obi Wan. The Comic Style for Vaders Backstory is a great idea. The Tantive lV massacre Scene from Rogue One would be a epic Introducing for Vader - with the Pulp Fiction Style text - i think. Maybe you should use Adywans and/or SC 38 Reimagined for Vader vs Obi Wan - more intense like Tarantino action.

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#1368331
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KILL SHEEV - A Tarantino-ish Original Trilogy Edit (a WIP)
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IlFanEditore said:

Work has restarted on this!
Please, tell me what you think of the chapters, and what you’d change.
I’m thinking about replacing the first chapter with the Battle of Hoth. It establishes the real enemy, while Jabba feels like a digression.
The final chapter in Volume 1 will feature Ben and Vader duel, and probably the Battle of Yavin.

The chapters and the structure looks very good for me. I like the Jabba Scene but the battle of Hoth is maybe a better idea. You can show introduce the empire with a Pulp Fiction like text and Vader then he enter the rebell base. Then you introduce Leia, you will use footage from ANH as flashbacks? Thats cool. In the Obi Wan chapter should you use footage from the Prequels i think. Funny/cool scenes with Obi Wan would be awsesome.