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#1335818
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Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects
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ChainsawAsh said:

MASTER260 said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Whether it’s the same from a legal standpoint or not, it’s not the same ethically at all.

Plus there’s the fact that it’s explicitly against the rules of this website, so I’m not sure what argument you think you’re trying to make here.

How is it not the same ethically? You’re stealing from Lucasfilm either way.

But I’m not giving money to a pirate.

Touche.

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#1335758
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Dealing with People Selling Fan Projects
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Buying fan edits or restorations is absolutely not any worse than downloading them for free.

There seems to be a common misconception that if you already bought a legal copy of a work, you are entitled to download other copies for free. This is false. Also, the people who make the fan edit or restoration never had the legal rights to distribute it in the first place since they are not the copyright holder. Even if they edited it from their own personal copy, that does not give them distribution rights.

Selling, on the other hand…

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#1315318
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Info Wanted: Which version of the Original Trilogy preservations to watch?
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Density said:

I would suggest 4K77 and 4K83 for SW and ROTJ. Highest resolution (whether at 4K or 1080p) that the OUT is available in, and they are authentic scans of original 35mm prints — not a single frame has been altered, as they all come from long before the SE ever existed. You know you’re seeing it as close to the original theatrical experience as possible when you watch them.

That said, they do have a decent amount of grain (especially 4K77) which may bother some people. There are versions with the grain digitally reduced (DNR), though. Empire (4K80) is not finished yet however, so if you want consistency across the trilogy you may still want to look at Despecialized.

Other advantage to Despecialized is that most of it is sourced from the Blu-ray, which means that it is closer to the original camera negative — it is therefore in some respects clearer and cleaner with less generation loss compared to film prints. However, it is currently stuck at 720p, parts of it are sourced from the GOUT which had to be upscaled, some of the digitally recomposited shots from the Special Edition remain, and the Blu-ray itself has a host of problems that had to be corrected as well as possible (not the least of which is color). The result is a stitched together product that is very well done but might bother purists in some ways. Still, for Empire at least it’s the best option. The only complete 35mm scan of Empire that’s been released is the unrestored Grindhouse, which is interesting from a historical perspective but rough to actually watch due to all kinds of issues with damage, color, and noise.

Puggo versions are sourced from 16mm, and they are likewise interesting historically but not what I would choose as my main version of the trilogy.

The GOUT is an early 90s Laserdisc master that was unceremoniously slapped onto DVD. It looks only marginally better than actual Laserdiscs, if that, and is not even anamorphic for widescreen TV. Which was standard even back in 2006 when it was released. Definitely not worth your money tracking down in this day and age IMO. In fact I actually prefer the older Laserdiscs from the 80s and early 90s (before the “THX Certified” releases), such as the Japanese Special Collection, because I like their color better. I wouldn’t bother dealing with actual Laserdiscs either with so many options today, but some of the nice rips available might be worth a look — especially if you’re nostalgic for the colors and feel of Star Wars from the 80s/early 90s.

Silver Screen Edition is a scan of a different print of SW that predates 4K77 and has essentially been superseded by it I believe.

There’s also always the option of the various Special Editions, of course, but for me that’s unacceptable except maybe for Empire, which was the least butchered and only has one change (“Bring my shuttle”) that really bothers me. The new 4K scans on Disney Plus have great detail and color, so you might consider that for Empire at least if you likewise aren’t too bothered by its changes. Until 4K80 is out I just might put up with it myself. And some people have made “semi-specialized” fan edits that retain only the SE changes they like. You might look into those too if there are things about the SE you prefer.

That about covers it I think.

Doesn’t 4K77 use a few frames from the 1997 SE? And Empire had changes such as making rooms be outside and replacing the Emperor with McDiarmid…

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#1313360
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Eh, I think it’s just that George sees the films as something that solely belongs to him, (despite all of the other people who worked on them,) and he wants to be able to constantly do things that he sees as improving them. He hates the studio process and believes in total director control over a project. He hates when studios order films to be altered like Warner Bros. did to THX but loves when he gets to tinker with his films personally.

Also, IMO, the worst thing about the 2006 DVDs is that it’s zoomed out so horribly. If you play the DVDs in VLC and crop the top and bottom by 100 pixels it’s at least watchable, at least on my TV. (My dad’s TV is newer and bigger and it doesn’t seem to help as much as it does on my TV, and unfortunately a little more than 100 and it’s cutting off parts of the picture.)

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#1311399
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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RogueLeader said:

And I think a lot of younger people who grew up on the Special Editions, the prequels and the Clone Wars basically worship George Lucas, so I’ve seen a lot more people defend ha choices nowadays. Plus, the Special Editions are their Star Wars. I think this is what George was hoping for.

Eh, I don’t think anyone worships George Lucas. I just think a lot of people don’t care if it has changes or not. But, I grew up on the prequels and both Clone Wars series, (I think I might’ve first watched Genndy’s Clone Wars right before ROTS came out, though, and I only saw the first season or so of the CGI Clone Wars when it came out,) but I still prefer the OOT. I actually just got the GOUT in the mail yesterday, lol, and I have the Despecialized trilogy, 4K77 in 4K and 1080p both regraded and non-regraded, (1080p regraded’s torrent’s currently stuck, though, and unfortunately my laptop isn’t 4K,) the Silver Screen Edition of SW, the 1978 Porn Shop bootleg of SW, the regraded grindhouse of TESB, and a copy of 4K83, along with an edit of SW I made for myself personally that’s basically just scenes from Despecialized pasted onto the SSE whenever I thought DeEd had better color grading, plus 4K77’s crawl. So, you can say I very much support the originals. Maybe it’s because I’ve been conditioned by the fandom to think that way, I dunno, but, still.

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#1307701
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Idea: Putting Jabba into Star Wars properly...
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Ronster said:

well yes I agree but Jabba is talked about as a character…

You simply are not looking beyond that Jabba could be the one to report the falcon and not Garindin and Garindin is talking to his boss as a henchman.

I don’t agree with shoe horning stuff in but Jabba was meant to be in the film originally.

I think it’s a passable idea and with subtitles Jabba could report the falcon.

Garindin “Greedo is dead and they are getting ready to leave”

Jabba “They are not going anywhere, I will see to that”

It is better than the Special edition version I think anyway

I find this quote if Garindin is solely an imperial informant… “I can tell you where to find them… for a price.” Subtitle is missing this is actually probably a nicer find…

It would be good to find a clever way to insert Jabba though I think this idea has escaped but the missing subtitle is cooler in a way 😃

Ok So let’s do this but Different after Han leaves Cantina a Shot of puppet Jabba “Put a price on Solo so big he won’t be able to go near a Civilised system for the rest of his life” This simply sets up Empire and Jedi in one fell swoop.

Pretty sure the intent was that he was calling the Empire and Jabba just happened to be in the room beforehand, and that these were two unrelated things happening.

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#1307699
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Info: All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
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MASTER260 said:

Great. Good thing that the other day I was doing some video editing and took some scenes from Despecialized and put them into the Silver Screen Edition because I prefer Silver Screen Edition’s color grading for the most part but there are a few scenes where Despecialized has it better. No, I’m not sharing it, but I’m just saying that that’ll be my copy of Star Wars, not this. Yes, I have 4K77 too, but I’m not a big fan of it TBH.

BTW, since I made this post, I’ve edited it a lot, and actually used the crawl from 4K77 but it’s gone through a lot of passes and because I kept changing my mind on whether I’d done enough or not, I kept deleting the Kdenlive source files, so the quality isn’t the greatest, but, whatever. Not that it matters to anyone but me.

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#1304484
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Info: All Star Wars films released in 4K HDR on Disney Plus: 2019 SE with more changes
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Great. Good thing that the other day I was doing some video editing and took some scenes from Despecialized and put them into the Silver Screen Edition because I prefer Silver Screen Edition’s color grading for the most part but there are a few scenes where Despecialized has it better. No, I’m not sharing it, but I’m just saying that that’ll be my copy of Star Wars, not this. Yes, I have 4K77 too, but I’m not a big fan of it TBH.

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#1285020
Topic
Pokemon: Mewtwo Strikes Back (!) - Original Theatrical Version (Released)
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Lum said:

I’d like a theatrical Mewtwo Strikes Back fansub. Pretty sure I used to own the raw Japanese VHS.
Having enjoyed the 4Kids run of Pokemon since early on, I’ve ignored the original script far too long…

Here: https://anonfile.com/w72fhav1nd/Mewtwo_no_Gyakushuu_Laserdisc_Pokemon_srt

It’s the result of a long time of work. It’s based on Rakudaniku’s Kanzenban subs, but edited by taking into account other translations of the script I’ve seen and knowledge of English grammar, so the whole thing actually makes sense and gets the ideas it was trying to convey across the best.

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#951518
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Sci-fi Channel's Star Trek Special edition (a WIP)
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pittrek said:

ST2112 said:

Hi. I just became aware of this thread and wondered if anyone found good quality copies of the entire run of the airings. I found my videotapes and may have all of them, which were recorded on a VHS Hi-Fi VCR, with a flying erase head in SP mode and look good. I would have to catalogue them more fully to confirm that all the segments are intact. Are there still people interested in seeing them? I also have copies of ABC’s version of The Wrath of Khan in terrific quality taped off-air onto SuperBeta and the original theatrical version of The Undiscovered Country on VHS. Thanks.

Oh God YES, I would sTILL love to see good quality copies of the Sci-Fi channel versions, if nothing else then at least the interview bits. Could you post some screenshots from your ABC version of Khan? “Some” version has appeared online, but still, if your version looks better there is still way for improvements. Was the theatrical version of TUC released on VHS? I thought only the first “director’s cut” god a LD/VHS release.

Seconded. Always good to hve more preservations.

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#948212
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What is your personal canon?
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Rouge One, VIII, and IX are among my favorites too.

Haha, even though they’re not out yet, I consider them canon because they’re placement fits better than, say, the Han Solo movie might.

Also, a spinoff about Han Solo’s origins seems more spinoff-ish to me than, say, a spinoff about a girl and her band of teammate’s quest to steal the Death Star plans.

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#948195
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What is your personal canon?
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What things do you personally consider to be part of the Star Wars story that you would be willing to watch? Here’s mine:

  1. The Cloak of Deception (9000 Series)
  2. The Approaching Storm (9000 Series)
  3. Clone Wars (Genndy Tartakovsky’s Series)
  4. The Labyrinth of Evil (9000 Series)
  5. The Force Unleashed
  6. Rogue One
  7. Star Wars (Despecialized Edition)
  8. The Empire Strikes Back (Despecialized Edition)
  9. Return of the Jedi (Despecialized Edition)
  10. The Force Awakens
  11. Episode VIII
  12. Episode IX

As of right now, everything else is non-canon as far as I’m concerned. (My opinions might change, though, after I’ve watched what I haven’t watched yet.) I don’t care what Disney says. What about you?