Originally posted by: Luke Skywalkerso many things to talk about in this thread....
i will do them one by one because there are so many things ive wanted to discuss lately and this is definatly the time to do it.
the point here is that no console is better than the other. anyone who says that is a ignorant fanboy. each system has their pros and cons and no one can say different. saying that i would like to point out a couple corrections made by people in this thread..
No, statements like this are ignorant. The market decides which console is better. Yes, they all have pros and cons, but if one weren't "better" than the other then the Sega Dreamcast wouldn't have tanked.
1) for the person who was talking about grand turismo costing money... false. sony has since abandoned that idea. they as well as everyone else realized it wouldn't fly and has since cancelled GT:HD and are putting all their work into GT 5. it was a stupid idea to begin with and a very similar situation happened during the ps2 version of GT 3. so before people continue to try and put sony down, this is false.
You're obviously taking what I said out of context, deliberately or not. What I said was that I saw this reported on X-Play. I did not say it would now and forever be the truth. I understand better than most that in technology businesses things change rapidly.
3) someone said pc gaming was dying. this is the biggest joke of a statement if i've ever seen one. but from coming from someone who may not play pc games its not a surprise. when you stick to a specific format you tend to lose grasp on anything outside of your own format. its happens with everyone. but if you look at a game like crysis for example. crysis has so far cost over 27 million dollars to develope. are you telling me that they're putting all this money into a dying format? they're not stupid, they want to make money. take a look at the majority of online games such as Counterstrike, Battlefield 2, or how bout MMORPG's like World of Warcraft or Everquest. World of Warcraft alone has over 7 million subscribers. Sims games are dominating the female market in games (which is impressive because more and more females are becoming gamers.) the fact of the matter is PC gaming is not dying and will never die. as long as games are made on computers they will always have a market.
Again you're making statements with no basis in fact. If you'd actually quoted my previous posts about PC gaming these errors would have been apparent, but since you chose not to I'll refresh your memory:
I've been playing games on PC since the original shareware Doom, and before that I played text-based RPGs on the Vic 20 and C64, Zork on the Apple IIe, custom games on my Tandy Sinclair, so right off the bat your accusation that I may not play pc games is ludicrous. Take a walk into an EB or Gamestop, look at the shelf-space devoted to Console games vs pc games. It's another situation of market forces at work. Is Gears of War being ported to PC? What about Vice City Stories? Bully? Justice League Heroes? God of War? Mortal Kombat?
Is the pc market completely gone? No. Is that what I said? NO. I said that it was DYING.
i hear people say this all the time. "PC's cost too much to maintain if you want to play games on them"
this is about the worst possible excuse in the world. if you dont want to play games with all the bells and whistles. guess what? you dont have to. you can still play a game on low graphics or medium graphics and get the same amount of enjoyment out of it. will better graphics give you a better experience. in some cases yes, probably (depending on who you are i suppose.) but there is no rule that says you must upgrade. that is just a pissing competition between pc gamers which has been around forever. just as it is with the ps3 and xbox 360. fans of the two will be bitching at eachother for years trying to one up the other. and its so old.
Well, let's see, if I have a 1.8ghz CPU on my pc, and Crysis requires a dual-core 3.2ghz minimum, what are my options? A motherboard can only support so much CPU before it needs to be replaced. Then you're still stuck with bottlenecks in the BUS and misc other issues. So, yeah, I can throw a new MB, memory, VID card, etc into my system, but this is being forced to upgrade. This is a fact. The games will not run. Not sure how you turn that into a pissing contest.
the point im making in this regard is that gaming computers are not expensive. they are only expensive if you want them to be.
you could pick up a video card today for about the same amount of money as an xbox 360 and be able to play games that look just as good as the xbox. if a game comes out in a couple years, you can still play it on medium or low settings and have it look like the xbox 360 or (if your a graphics whore) you can spend more money to play a game that will look better than the xbox 360. the whole point is the pc has never been more expensive than a console. if anything its been cheaper.
This is even more ludicrous. I just built a bare-bones gaming pc for my parents (my father plays Call of Duty) with 1GB RAM and a 256MB Video Card for over $700 with no monitor. Until this recent generation of consoles I'd like you to show me an XBOX, PS, or Nintendo system that cost that much. And anyone spending that much and not getting a pc out of it is lost. There's not a console in the world at this time that will give what a pc is giving, and I don't need to purchase a high-def tv to get hi-def graphics from my pc.
I don't think one must sacrifice graphics to have good game play. I think Unreal Tournament 04 for PC is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had because of the variety of play and also the scalability of the graphics. Far Cry was also exceptional, with some of the best graphics I've ever seen in addition to the most difficult A.I. I've ever played. Standard tvs are not capable of the same resolution of a pc monitor, and that's why I feel that the console experience is somewhat lessened for me because the lack of graphics depth. However, there are some console games that just blew me away, like Resident Evil 4, Hulk Ultimate Destruction, and some of the WWE games. The Sega Genesis was a great experience for me, especially with the sports games (so I'm not only a Nintendo fanboy).
