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#1281082
Topic
Alien 1979 35mm scan opportunity
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TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:

JayArgonaut said:

TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:

This isn’t some bullshit whingey tripe about some George Lucas revisionism this forum is so bitchy about. Too much complaining about comparing it to an older print on an outdated format such as VHS, Laserdisc, and DVD. Hell, the current Pet Semetary 4K+Blu-ray disc has fucking weird color timing but is revisioned. ALIEN doesn’t regarding the Theatrical Cut. Same goes for BLACK HAWK DOWN. 2K upscales don’t count.

So yes, perhaps this does recreate the theatrical experience of seeing this within the same day or a week of opening in 1979. I’m keeping the official 20th Century FOX 4K UHD release and this fan “restoration” will be a nice bonus disc, not a replacement.

EDIT: By the way, no need to pay attention to me, I’m a fucking dumbass.

We’re allowed to express our preferences and disappointments regarding film presentations, just as you are allowed to gush about about the 4K UHD release of Alien. Although, why you insist on being so irate is puzzling. You prefer the latest release? Cool, enjoy. What difference does it make to your life if others disagree?

None. But get with the times of home media physical formats. It’d be far better to preserve a print of something not available on Blu-ray disc anywhere on the planet OR the current Blu-ray disc is absolute rubbish, IMO of course.

Great BONUS disc!

Quiet toll.

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#1281041
Topic
Alien 1979 35mm scan opportunity
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TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:

RU.08 said:

Well for the theatrical experience anyway. The “detail” in prints is 1-2K not anywhere near 4K (although they have much richer dynamic range than digital) and most prints have little shadow/highlight detail, the exception being dye-transfer prints that retain the same detail level into the shadows/highlights. Blurays and 2K/4K restorations are often sharpened way beyond the sharpness of prints as well. This is not a limitation of prints - films like Alien were shot in anamorphic and transferred using contact-printing so there is little to no loss of sharpness between the negative and the final prints.

So then I should get rid of this since it shouldn’t exist to own? Mastered in 4K and is older than ALIEN. (Warning, shit cover design.)

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Bridge-on-the-River-Kwai-4K-Blu-ray/183746/

You’re telling me I’d need to watch it properly if the scan were a low resolution of an outdated print? Not the 65mm~70mm print but a 35mm answer print?

Same goes for this too, I bet. ALSO older than ALIEN. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/2001-A-Space-Odyssey-4K-Blu-ray/224350/

Jonno said:

Indeed. 4K transfers should be technically superior, in terms of detail retention and consistency of performance, every time.

But that’s not what films shot in the 1970s were designed for - even TV and home video would have been a distant afterthought. It was all about rendering the best possible image on those theatrical prints, and all the creative decisions in the filmmaking process had that firmly set as their end goal.

4K (and, to be fair, Blu-ray) are fantastic at wringing visual information out of archival film materials - it’s among their chief selling points - but they’re aimed at achieving a much different purpose than the one those materials were created for. Hence my concern about claims of ‘original intent’, which is always a dicey issue with this technology.

This isn’t some bullshit whingey tripe about some George Lucas revisionism this forum is so bitchy about. Too much complaining about comparing it to an older print on an outdated format such as VHS, Laserdisc, and DVD. Hell, the current Pet Semetary 4K+Blu-ray disc has fucking weird color timing but is revisioned. ALIEN doesn’t regarding the Theatrical Cut. Same goes for BLACK HAWK DOWN. 2K upscales don’t count.

So yes, perhaps this does recreate the theatrical experience of seeing this within the same day or a week of opening in 1979. I’m keeping the official 20th Century FOX 4K UHD release and this fan “restoration” will be a nice bonus disc, not a replacement.

Thou dost complain way too fucking much. Why don’t you just leave the thread and the site if you hate fan-restorations so badly.

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#1280791
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>720p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Telion said:

exitzero said:

Vader vs Obi-Wan Reimagined-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng4u1k

DeJa Vu…

I swear this was a thing like last year, but its been popping up everywhere in my Youtube feed. Did I have some kind of force vision or something?

The preview was released last year and they finally released the finished thing a couple days ago.

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#1280554
Topic
Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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WishItWas1984 said:

I know most of you likely have seen this already but…god damn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng4u1k

I know this will never happen but what I would give for a bonus Harmy v3.0 4K Revisited/Reimagined release that utilizes this scene when the real 3.0 is released. 😃

This goes against the goal of the DEED, which is meant to restore the OUT, try Adywan’s thread as he is in the middle of making a new special edition.

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#1280441
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ZigZig's THE PHANTOM MENACE Theatrical reconstruction 1080p – V1.0 work in progress
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ZigZig said:

LordZerome1080 said:

jzilli said:

ZigZig said:

I have the chance to use a forthcoming 4K format scan of the original 35mm

GULP

Well this is certainly great news!

How have we gained access to the original negative?? If we do, then can someone for the love of Jaba get the OUT negs away from Lucasfilm.

It is obviously not the original negative, but a Kodak 2382 lowfade in very good condition.

Thanks for clearing that up.

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#1279971
Topic
Searching for <strong>the best quality</strong> A New Hope source for fan-edit.
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ChainsawAsh said:

LordZerome1080 said:

Petrovelly said:

LordZerome1080 said:

You could try the DEED.

Despecialized Edition is the color-corrected Blu-ray release.

No it’s not, it’s the 35mm prints made 720P by using the Blu Ray.

What? No, it isnt. Please stop giving false information as fact. It’s the Blu-Ray color corrected with the SE changes removed through a variety of sources, only one of which is scans of 35mm prints. SW DEED has the least amount of 35mm material out of the whole DEED trilogy anyway. Hell, that’s why it’s only 720p - because Harmy didn’t have enough high-resolution material to seamlessly remove the SE editions at 1080p.

I don’t even know what “35mm prints made 720p using the Blu-Ray” means. Why would you use the Blu-Ray at all if you had 35mm source material? Okay, maybe if you had incomplete 35mm scans, but then why would you downgrade it to 720p if you have 35mm scans and a 1080p Blu-Ray?

I didn’t know, I’m not stating facts only telling what I know which is not a lot apparently.