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- Info: TV edits of John Carpenter's 80s flicks
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Look for it on the demon.
Look for it on the demon.
Thanks for the update.
On a related note on the new French The Thing DVD this "lost" trailer is a hidden feature. Not sure if it's on any other releases.
Sounds great. It's pretty easy to share. Let me know if you need help when the time comes. Cheers.
SilverWook said:
Kurt Russel's character was playing an electronic chess game, (in reality a dressed up Apple II) and having a conversation with a blow up doll.
I don't remember the blow up doll from the TV as it's been too long, but remember the added dog ending.
I have seen The Thing on TV when I was a kid. Parts of it made it to the bonus material on the DVD, but I am curious about the entire edit.
The Thing TV was discussed a few years back on this following thread, and I don't think it was distributed.
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/A-Few-other-Extended-TV-Cuts/topic/8595/
It is well documented that Halloween, Halloween II, and The Thing have alternative TV scenes, but not much is discussed about his other films.
For instance, when I was traveling a few years back, I saw Prince of Darkness on TNT (IIRC). It had extended shots, which included extra book passages on the Brotherhood of Sleep. These scenes aren’t on the R1 or Momentum R2 DVDs. I didn’t watch the entire film, but IMDB lists a few other differences.
In addition, Mitch/Old Biff’s defunct site listed The Fog TV version. I have been unable to find any info on the differences between that and the film version.
I’d be interested to find out if there are an extended or alternative scenes for John Carpenter’s other films.
I hope The Thing and Prince of Darkness TV versions are preserved as well.
There are a couple of edits on Ray Harryhausen DVDs that I like to mention.
Golden Voyage of Sinbad: Your link refers to the scene in which Sinbad carries Margiana to shore at Lemuria from the longboat. When he releases her to stand next to him, Caroline Munro's skimpy top shifted slightly and she was, in fact, exposed (though only slightly). I can verify this, as I used to own an original 16mm print of the film, and I and others projected it quite large on the wall to check this out (purely in the interests of research, of course...). I was surprised to read that it was digitally obscured for the DVD, as it was very discreet and hard to see even in the original scene (they were probably just playing it safe). It's not like she "popped out" blatantly; her costume and hair still managed to pretty much disguise what was going on. In fact, it wasn't until some time later that this came to light, and I had already seen the movie in the theater many times and had never noticed it. It was only then that we in the "forensic" team leaped into action.
This excerpt came from Ernest Farino's post.
In addition on Mysterious Island, the bikini girl in the crab scene is missing from the DVD. As explained in this lengthy post, Ernest Farino writes, "She shows up, then, when viewing a full frame print, usually on TV or VHS video transfer." Ernest also provides a screenshot comparison:
I think if the scenes from Golden Voyage of Sinbad and Mysterious Island are intact, it would be worth preserving the LD versions.
The colour timing on the Blu-ray transfer is probably truer to life than the laserdisc, or any other previous release, although the laserdisc transfer does have a darker cold blue colour timing to it which does add to the overall feel of the film.
I saw the film in the theatre recently and the colors look more like BD than LD.
Dolby Digital is more widespread than DTS audio.
When I was doing research on soundcards years ago, all the SB cards resampled the digital input stream (even at the same frequency). So you won't get an 1-to-1 copy. It seems that SB has fixed this in their recent X-Fi series. Not sure if this resampling is something you care about, but thought I should mention it just in case.
The movie looks very good. I didn't notice any flaws. Thanks for completing this project.
Maybe Willie Aames could be hired to reprise Hank? :)
It's back up.
FanFiltration said:UPDATE NEWS!!!
BANNED BOND: The Criterion Collection "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE" to be updated with improved image and audio transfer, and will now include bonus isolated score and effects track (taken from "The Connery Collection" laser set).
I'm curious if this was publicly released?
Thanks for the tips. Been looking for these since 2007.
figmentfly said:
Now that the entire run of the Dungeons and Dragons TV show has been released on DVD, and the Requiem script has been included as a PDF and performed by voice artists (including one of the originals), perhaps someone could use the existing footage and cut it against the voice artists and really create a final episode.
I believe the voice for Sheila did that "radio broadcast", but as another character. IIRC, she also contributed her talent to the original Requiem project owner many years prior to the DVD extra.
So I am wondering does the current project have that audio recording?
That Mercedes McCambridge interview is quite interesting. I have the R1 disc and it's missing that footage.
It would be cool if the entire collection was seeded. Been looking for it the whole time.
The official DVD finally arrived from my Netflix queue. I watched it and the Recut the day after. I guess in some ways the recut works, but the transitions are abrupt. Overall, the two versions are more like a drama than a horror film. I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, but it's still not very good. At least Boorman was able to rebound with his following film, Excalibur.
Mitch -- FYI, there's a LD version of the recut out there. It doesn't seem like you had access to it.
Looks great!
Exciting development!
Thanks for the links. The next interview segment talks a bit more about the disappearance from ED1 DVD.
http://revver.com/video/524080/bruce-campbell-at-con-part-12within-the-woods-follow-up/
It's always nice to have several sources for images.
I'll hold off my comments for Within the Woods for the time being.
Why do you say this? If you have a better quality version I'd be interested in trading for it?
I was able to locate my WtW disc, which contained 2 versions (QT and MPG) of the short film that I grabbed from deadites.net back in 2002 or so.
The QT is a "cleaned up" version using the MPG as the source. While it is denoised, the audio quality is very low and the video seems too bright.
Looking at the MPG version, I thought it might be better at first as the sound is brighter and the colors more crisp. However around the title screen mark, it was apparent that it's more generated and a bit high in the color saturation. Also the audio has more hiss. Thus, See No Evil's version is better overall.
Haven't read all the magazines from the DVD-ROM contents, but I'm glad Video Watchdog 46 was preserved as I bought that issue at the newsstand. Don't have any of the other magazines, so it's a lot of information to wade thru.