I haven't heard about this version, but the person responsible for the VHS transfer of the b&w workprint said that they viewed a color workprint as a kid at an early screening, but was only able to obtain the b&w version. I imagine that the color workprint has to be available somewhere.
Been meaning to comment on the nice release, but been very busy for the last month. And it has taken multiple days to watch every feature. Besides agreeing with all the comments on the picture quality and switching between versions, I really like the extra source descriptions. It has been greatly improved from the CTB release.
The workprint quality is better than I expected from the source material. It shows the uncut gore effects, so I liked being able to see them.
The commentary Tom is kind of refrained from saying much, but he gave his opinions during the audience questions and answers session.
When I first tried the menu out, the highlighted "pointer" got lost somewhere. I think it was either toggling between video, audio, or subtitles where the highlighting disappeared and it took awhile to return to normal functionality. I haven't retried replicating it, so maybe it was an one time glitch.
Great job everyone.
Peter Jackson used a green tint for TTT and ROTK theatrically as he wanted the films to have a darker feel. I personally thought it ruined the look that he established in FOTR.
There's also Body Bags, which I haven't seen.
Space Kaijuu said:
The US and International versions both had the S-Mart ending. The Director's Cut has the original apocalypse ending and the original Japanese LD was basically the International version with the original apocalypse ending.
I assumed the Japanese LD was the International Cut, so that's the discrepancy.
Yes the US and the International cut have the S-Mart ending.
International cut has jokes and lines that differ from the US but the US is still better IMO.
Only the US version has the S-Mart ending.
I'm interested to see if the alternative opening matches what I saw on cable several years back.
The audio of the isolated score on the US DVD sounded good, but I never did an A/B comparison between that and the audio CD.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:Last "thing": what about if I use all the songs from the Morricone and/or new edition OST and build up a sort of isolated score? It will be interesting to have some hints by a "The Thing" aficionados to know where I must put each song, as some are in the movies, but a lot are not! And, in between tracks, should I leave silence, or add actual movie sountrack?
The original US DVD has the standalone audio score. I can't remember if the enchanced DVD reissue had it.
As for Prince of Darkness, I saw a broadcast version 5-6 years ago where there are additional footage of the book of sleep. I believe I started a thread regarding it, but was unable to find it. I think that version would be worth preserving even if it's not full HD.
The Aluminum Falcon said:
Got it. Sorry about that. I guess you're talking about the Captain Supermarket then; however, according to lddb, it's open matte. Lacerated, you said that it was somewhat like the International Cut; is this the Australian and Japanese Special Edition described on imdb? It seems to fit your description.
Yes, the Japanese LD I'm referring is Captain Supermarket.
According to a Video Watchdog article, Jei Wei LD comes from Singapore, not Taiwan, but I don't have any verification on the country of origin.
The Aluminum Falcon said:
Is this the Jei Wea laserdisc; if so, I believe that this is the director's cut not the International Cut.
Jei Wei LD is not the Japanese LD. That's a bootleg from Singapore according to Video Watchdog.
MrBrown said:Everest checked, if the jp. DVD contains the same Version As the LD, just Widescreen and without forced subs? The jp DVD is about 15 seconds longer than the US Directors Cut, and it contains the Other Ending As Special Feature, afaik. I just Know it is longer and contains the longer Sheila ripped blouse Scene. But about 15 seconds Sounds if Somerset more scenes are longer. I own too much different Discs and Versions of that Movie to Know what Version is what... :) There Even was a German DVD with the alternder beginning, the Henry the Red with ash Scene, and the windmill Scene where sah leaves the windmill just bevor he ran into it again and smashes the Mirror. But afaik this is just a bootleg DVD After a licensed VHS Tape, but eventually the bootleg was officially rereleased by the German rightholders.. But informations are rare about that Version...
I wonder if that German bootleg is made from Anchor Bay's deleted scenes as they were part of the bonus material. The Sci-Fi version is even longer than the Japanese version, so if you checkout the fan cut called The Primitive Screwhead Edition, it merges Sci-Fi cut w/ the MGM Hong Kong release (best looking version) and the Director's Cut.
Japanese LD is more like (or maybe it's exactly the same as) the International Cut, which differs from the US Cut. It has the love making fireplace scene and the longer Sheila ripped blouse scene. At the end, it also has the US ending tacked on after the credits. It also has longer windmill and Ash spider walk scenes. It's P&S and has hard subtitles. This was the longest version available for a long time. Eventually, Anchor Bay released a Director's Cut, that has similar but slightly shortened scenes that I mentioned above.
The US ending is the supermarket one, while the apocalypse ending is the original one.
When I am home in some weeks, I may check what version I have on LD. I have one jap. LD of the Movie.
But, what are the differences in the TV Version? Is it just a Full Screen Version? Or does it differ in other way from the DC or TC ?
Could you transfer the LD to DVD?
SciFi version has many scenes not in DC or TCs.
The Aluminum Falcon said:Well, you're the only one who's come forward. Other people might have a copy but it could be the same quality as yours, which looked pretty good judging by the captures above.
If you look at the Primitive Screwhead thread here and here, Ridgeshark made a capture and sent it to Rikter. Then mcfly89 made a WGN capture. I seem to recall someone else that had it too.
I have a VHS recording off of the Sci-Fi channel probably 1st or 2nd broadcast. Surely, there's a higher resolution capture out there.
The JPN LD is fullframe with burnt-in subs. It was the first most complete public version of the film having the the slightly longer love scene, Sheila dress ripping scene, and the international ending and dialog.
After some research, it seems that there are 2 laserdisc releases for The Golden Voyage of Sinbad – one by Pioneer and another by RCA/Columbia. It seems that the Pioneer one is the best.
The Pioneer Special Edition laserdisc has an isolated music track and possibly a stereo mix (whereas the DVD only has mono).
( Catalog Number PSE91-20 ) (1.33:1) (3 Sides) (CLV+CAV) (CC) (NTSC)
It would be nice to have this preserved as the later Columbia DVD releases also have some digital editing.
The Aluminum Falcon said:
Like Dark Jedi, I'm not so clear what you are saying. Do you mean that it's not a VHS dupe and is first generation? Even though there may be better copies out there, I'd love a transfer of this; it's better than having nothing.
Also, Dark Jedi, those screen caps look good. Do you have a copy of that set you can upload to Hotfile, Megaupload, torrents, Rapidshare, etc?
What I mean by master recording is that it's taped from broadcast, not that I have a pre-broadcast tape. It's not a 1st gen VHS dub, which to me is VHS > VHS.
To answer dark_jedi, yes, my tape looks like the screen captures although it has been many years since I watched it. Matter-of-fact, I watched it shortly after Sci Fi premiered it.
I currently do not have a good VHS to DVD setup. I also have a VHS dub of the Japanese LD version of Army of Darkness. Someone must have transfer that LD version to DVD properly.
I have a master VHS recording of SciFi's Army of Darkness. I'm certain there are better copies out there.
Thanks for transferring it.
Look for it on the demon.
Thanks for the update.
On a related note on the new French The Thing DVD this "lost" trailer is a hidden feature. Not sure if it's on any other releases.
Sounds great. It's pretty easy to share. Let me know if you need help when the time comes. Cheers.