Marooned Biker Scout said:
Yeah, I agree. I liked it better when I thought they were just that bent on following orders. The chips seem like lazy writing. What’s funny, though, is that in the Bad Batch, they seem like they’re trying to backtrack on it. What with some clones acting like people instead of microchipped zombies inexplicably? I liked the Clone Wars Finale, but I wonder if it would have been more satisfying to see the Clones struggle with the moral dilemma of following orders or doing what they thought was right. Especially Rex since he was seen as a very dogmatic character who took his service to the republic seriously.
I would have preferred to have seen that too, more a focus on them trained to follow orders, instead of being chipped.
I’ve been watching the Prequels for years and only recently noticed that Obi-Wan sees the doner of the Clone DNA (Jango) at Kamino and then sees Jango standing right next to Dooku, the guy who started the Clone Wars in the first place. It’s confusing to think about how they didn’t connect the dots there. This ruins the episodes where Anakin and Obi-Wan investigate the death of Syfo Dias and then find out that way that Dooku ordered the clones when they should have realized he had something to do with it when they saw him and Jango together, especially since they didn’t know where the Clones came from. The more I think about it, the more glaring this plot hole seems.
This old meme sprung to my mind reading the first part of your post:
And also this similar point too, but this one likely fits a different discussion. Sorry to Kyp_Astaar for the shitpost:
On this note, what’s even worse is Dooku openly saying to Obi-Wan that the whole senate was controlled by his master.
I can rationalize Jango being there, simply because he’s a bounty hunter, and he was bought 10 or so years ago to be the donor for the clone army and recently took a job from the separatists, that’s “tolerable”, i’d go out on a limb and say that, even if it’s a big stretch, the separatists were ready to declare war to the republic, so they literally had no choice but make use of the army (Palpatine organized it so that they were forcibly put into a corner without any way of escaping outside of employing the clones) but that Dooku line breaks everything, especially what’s been pointed out with those excellent memes.
If anything, they should make a cut without that goddamn line.
If ep.II was a tv series instead of a movie, it would actually be interesting if for a couple of episodes Yoda has to weigh in the moral and ethical implications of using an army that’s being conveniently handed to them right by the time of need and actually sending the republic to war, but it’s a moot point to imagine such things.