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Knight of Kalee

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#1351370
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s a test of the ending, with pretty much everything except for a ghost for Ben.

https://vimeo.com/424989868

Simply wonderful.

Rey’s theme (with a bit of Force’s) fits so much better than the recycled original version.

Had the original ended like that, I would have left the theater much more satisfied.

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#1351181
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Yeah that’s been considered. I don’t remember exactly who did it or where’s the link to it, but there is a rough version of a rearranged Exegol opening, where “The dark side of the Force is a pathway…” is replaced with “more than a clone…”, (it also includes repurposed Palpatine dialogue to establish both the concept of the Force Dyad and his plan). The audio itself still needs some polishing but is a good attempt, and anything is better than leave the means of Sidious’s resurrection unaddressed.

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#1351028
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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jkimm said:

Just wanted to share a few scenes that I’ve made slight trims to. I know it’s all subjective but am curious to hear any feedback.

Cutting before the TIE explodes was seamless, great work on that one!

Removing the balloon Stormtrooper was nice, too. The quicksand scene needs a bit of smoother SFX to cover Finn’s muted line but otherwise good job.

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#1351012
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Revenge of the Sith (The New Canon Cut) [CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE]
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Wonderful! The balcony scene now feels much more natural. As you said, the original movie kind of wanted us to empathize with Anakin when he visits Padmé, but we can’t since we know he’s just slaughtered half the Jedi. This way Anakin feels like he’s struggling, still processing what’s he done and what he has been tasked to do. He does not seem like a psycopath anymore. And now, the murder of the children does not feel out of place because it works as a turning point. The redone youngling scene without music is harrowing!

It also helps that the next time where we would see Vader is Mustafar, where he seems like a completely different character: stoic, slow-speaking, piercing eyes, etc. That personality change doesn’t work that well when the emotional Padmé scene is sandwiched in between. Now he’s fresh off having killed the younglings.

You would have to cut 3PO mentioning Anakin’s return to the Temple, but I hope you keep Padmé breaking in tears at the sight of the Temple in flames. It works better know when Anakin had already told her about the Jedi’s supposed treason.

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#1350897
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Hal 9000 said:

It’s something I’m going to have to give some real thought. Would it require jettisoning Rey about to do a ritual sacrifice of Palpatine?

Maybe the scene could be rearranged/repurposed as Sidious taunting Rey the same way he did with Luke on the Death Star…something in the same vein of “Strike me down and your journey to the dark side will be complete”. Basically Palpatine’s bait for Rey’s known struggle with her inner darkness.
This could explain her hesitation. She considers the possibility of falling prey to temptation and becoming her dark self she dreads so much, besides the viewer would have an added concern, knowing that Palpatine will possess Rey if she complies. The ritualistic aspect, Palpatine’s bombastic announcement and Rey’s outright decision not to hate him would have to be toned down to sell it.

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#1350525
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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Getting rid of the space horses in the final battle actually worked really well! I like the horses, but I hadn’t noticed how they disappear from the battle with no explanation, as in we don’t see them killed, falling off the destroyer or anything. Now we only need another place to move that epic variation of the Force theme, since it would be a shame to lose it.

I’d keep Chewie’s fake-out death, only to give context to Rey’s main conflict in this movie, specially for a Rey Nobody edit.

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#1350153
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I agree the scene is funnier with the Gilligan cut (“I’m not doing this!” then smash cut to the data restored anyway). I’d keep 3PO saying “I’m going with Padmé/Anakin…”, and after he asks R2 “I already have?”, maybe have him mention something about “Master Luke”, only to remind the audience that the OT memories have not been lost.

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#1349581
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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axlanian said:

Okay, here’s my mix of the fleet dialogue chatter

https://vimeo.com/423025361
fanedit

I tried to make everyone sound like they were actually coming through the comms, while widening the sound so it surrounds the viewer a bit for a sense of scale. Let me know if at any point the layering is too dense or empty, or if any specific lines should stand out more or be buried a bit more.

Magnificent! The comlink effect is seamless! Watching and hearing this was so moving.

Maybe you could move the “we believe in you Poe” to after Finn’s line, as Chase Adams did, and in its place put the Mon Calamari line so it can stand out a bit.

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#1349440
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Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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idir_hh said:

I think it would be great to have some Plagues/Snoke music play as Kylo descends into and walks around the sith temple on Exogol.

I agree. The music that plays when the Sith temple is revealed is pretty awesome, but’s also the theme of the Knights of Ren, who don’t appear in this scene. The Snoke/Plagueis music could tie the scenes together, backing up Palpatine’s claim about the dark side “unnatural” abilities.

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#1349139
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I loved the fleet voices. Maybe a couple of them (right at the beginning, or when Poe’s cockpit is shown) should be clearer/louder so the audience gets what’s going on, with the remaining cluster of voices backing up the general idea. But it works much better than the original.

Hal, isn’t it nosey to ask for some of the lines that were included, for the sake of those who’d like to make some hypothetical subtitles?

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#1348913
Topic
The Usual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I would have loved if the film had a small Endgame moment with many familiar faces coming back from retirement for the ultimate battle. They wouldn’t even need to be named characters, but showing like, a Mon calamari bridge, or at least close-ups of the ships involved, would have sold the moment better.

For now the best we can do is going the Hal route and add comlink lines to the pilots, and maybe sneak in one Easter egg or two.

Regarding Baby Yoda, I have the feeling his species has a different growth rate, with a very long toddler stage followed for a sudden, quick infancy/adolescence. If Yoda’s species aged the same way as us, and baby Yoda is 50, Yoda at 900 would look like a young adult instead of being on his deathbed.

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#1348824
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I admit my main reason I really wanted DOTF to be in the film is because of its prominence in the late marketing, that left me thinking they were truly going to deliver on the “recovering the iconic scores of every prior film” only to be underwhelmed when it didn’t feature in the film.

Maybe playing the full song over the duel can result jarring. It would be awesome to have a mix of themes for the duel that include Rey’s, Kylo’s and DOTF.

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#1348524
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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DominicCobb said:

Knight of Kalee said:

I mentioned it already in the general thread, but besides obvious suggestions like Duel of the Fates or Across the stars, I have a less-known prequel theme in mind, one that is prominent in the second half of ROTS. It’s a Sith motif named “Mystery of the Sith” also known as the second half of Padmé’s Ruminations. It has early hints to the “Anthem of Evil” theme if you listen it closely.

TROS really should serve as a culmination of the saga in all its aspects, including the score.

Is that really a motif though? I can only think of one time it’s used in the film.

I will say too the film as is already features a few quotes of prequel music.

It appears when Anakin is given instructions by Sidious, and also when Obi-Wan realizes he has turned to the dark side. I was suggesting to use snippets of it mainly because it’s less on-the-nose than other prequel tracks, and because of the similar notes to the Anthem of evil theme.

The film does reuse prequel music but it’s not that noticeable. I mostly remember “Yoda challenging Palpatine” track when Rey’s training on Ajan Kloss, and an AOTC track similar to the Kamino theme when Poe and Zorii talk on Kijimi. I’d have to rewatch the film to notice more similarities. For me, having Duel of the Fates during the final duel would be enough.

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#1348492
Topic
Star Wars: <strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> Redux Ideas thread
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I admit that although I love Samuel Kim’s arrangements, most of them do not fit to be in the films themselves because they feel too much like trailer music. For example, the main theme version from the TROS trailer is based on a four-chord sequence, a trait that’s very un-Williams but common in more modern cinematic music.

But even if the music doesn’t feel Williams, I can’t deny that your rescore is goosebump-inducing. I would have loved if that scene in the film had a more emotional soundtrack like the one you used. The space battle in general deserved more attention and screentime.

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#1348490
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I mentioned it already in the general thread, but besides obvious suggestions like Duel of the Fates or Across the stars, I have a less-known prequel theme in mind, one that is prominent in the second half of ROTS. It’s a Sith motif named “Mystery of the Sith” also known as the second half of Padmé’s Ruminations. It has early hints to the “Anthem of Evil” theme if you listen it closely.

TROS really should serve as a culmination of the saga in all its aspects, including the score.

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#1348221
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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I could go with either ship. Vader’s TIE Advanced works better as fanservice, but I’ve always been fond of the Lambda shuttle. Arguably, if we bring continuity issues and general geekness to the table, it’s equally nonsensical to pretend a ship survived the Death Star explosion and remain functional after 30 years of wear, be it the shuttle or Vader’s TIE. The minor advantage the shuttle has over the TIE is that it appeared prominently in ROTJ and one was glimpsed when Rey climbed the DS structure.

I don’t know what you guys think but for me, it’s easier to forgive Vader’s TIE being somewhere in the DS wreckage, than Luke’s fighter magically regenerating its missing wing when being lifted out of the water.

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#1348033
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant
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poppasketti said:

Here’s some Alts for the Tie replacement:
https://vimeo.com/421655865
pw: fanedit

Lol!

Jokes aside, Vader’s TIE Advanced is a genuinely good option. It makes sense in-universe, and though it’s kind of fanservice-y, it feels like a nice payoff having that TIE and the X-Wing it chased all those films ago, now side-by-side. George Lucas would be proud of that “rhyme”.