KimmieParker

Bluto said:
After reading your post, I watched that very scene a dozen times but can’t see it… Vader just nods as he says “No”, and then again when he says “I” - all looks natural enough to me, including the movement of the cape in the wind. Can you be more specific about what looks wrong to you? I’m intrigued!

Bluto

yhwx’s response was enough to help solve that mystery. Check it out:

yhwx said:

I’m pretty sure it’s something intentional. I think I read about it somewhere.

JEDIT: https://storify.com/tvaziri/the-rock-and-roll-moment-in-empire

I’m not sure if this is the right thread for what I’m about to say, so if there’s a thread for something like this, please point the way!

Rewatching ESB for probably the 50,000,000th time, I actually noticed something weird about one scene in particular. Right when Darth Vader says “No, I am your father”, pay close attention to him. I can’t really describe what it is, but it’s the way he moves as he says that immortal line. It’s very subtle, but if you look closely, you’ll notice it.

I’m not sure if that’s David Prowse moving with the rushing wind or if it’s something from the editing process. And the only thing that comes to mind seeing him move like this is that it could probably be something called the “forward-reverse technique”. I say that because it reminds me of when the technique was used for the scene in that godawful “Batman & Robin” movie when Robin comes out of the water and goes right back in again. Only with ESB, it wasn’t as colossally (and painfully) obvious.

I don’t know if I’m the only one who sees this or if I’m just rambling about nothing, but if anybody has the answer to this, I sure would appreciate it because I keep thinking it’s a Special Edition change until I watched the Grindhouse Edition and noticed the subtle movement there. So I’m guessing it’s been there since 1980. So really, my question is what the heck it is?

I don’t know if this has been reported in this tread, so just in case, I’ll bring it to attention.

Somebody named thedewback2 mentioned on the tread for Harmy’s STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 that he or she noticed something in the edition that, after careful observation via looking at the said edition alongside the TeamNegative Silver Screen edition, I noticed myself. Here’s what he had to say:

thedewback2 said:

One of the biggest problems I’ve had with despecialized is in the shot where Han has chased the stormtroopers into the dead end on the death star; the one that was changed with a hangar in 1997. The wall on the far right side of the frame was digitally altered in the SE and still appears that way in DE. Are there any plans to fix this?

chyron8472 said:

I have a whole bucket o’ mud that I can ship to Harmy instead if that helps.

Would Harmy mind a bucket o’ mud as a token of his fans’ deepest appreciations? 😉

To all those who keep barraging Harmy with questions about when he will release new Despecialized editions, just remember this one thing: He’s doing this for free, not to mention at a high risk of severely getting into trouble.

So please, pay back Harmy’s kindness and bravery with patience.

Harmy said:

Well, right now I’m talking a bit of a break, as I started a new job, which keeps me plenty busy but I am planning v3.0 in the future.

Forgive me for asking what is probably an annoying question, but what about Empire Strikes Back 2.5?

BOTH STAR WARS (1977) DESPECIALIZED 2.7 & SILVER SCREEN EDITION:

First off, and forgive me if this sounds rather hyperbolic, I want to say that watching both of these films on my Samsung Smart TV was nothing short of a spiritual experience! I was astonished and speechless by the brilliance of these editions and I am definitely looking forward to see Empire Strikes Back & Return of the Jedi in the same way.

That said, there is a small problem that I’m curious about: The scene when the Millennium Falcon was caught in the Death Star’s tractor beam and the confused Luke and Hans starts arguing about it, I noticed the scene’s volume decreased a little (it went back to normal when Obi-Wan tells Han about there being other alternatives). Now on the 2.7 edition, I turned it to English 2 on the Audio Language setting and noticed the scene was pretty normal with the sound (I also like to mention that when I turn it to English 3, I can actually hear the sound of the tractor beam whereas I can’t hear it in 1 and 2).

In the Silver Screen edition, which lacks the Audio Language setting, the same decreasing-volume problem arose in the same scene.

It’s not extremely bothersome, but it’s pretty weird. I mean, does anyone else have this problem? Is this something irreversible? What can I do?

team_negative1 said:

Unless someone has posted the Grindhouse on another site, they are only currently on Myspleen and usenet.

Team Negative1

Hi! I try going on MySpleen but it keeps taking me to this login page and I don’t know how to create an account.