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#533430
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES)
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OmegaMattman said:

Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of these LDs to work with myself.  I'd love to get my hands on a raw, untweaked, high-quality LD-to-digital transfer of the PAL editions to toy around with ;)

Hmm... I might be able to help. Eventually....

Somewhere in my basement, I've got what's probably the best PAL LD player ever made (Pioneer LD-V4300D) and three copies of each of the 1993 PAL discs (two French and one German, I think).

The PAL versions aren't a panacea, but they're pretty good. And better than the NTSC verions in a lot of places.

 

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#531746
Topic
Legacy
Time

The average of nothing and something is... something, I guess.

In other words, if you averaged a part of the JSC where there was no picture information (all black), with the part of the 2004 DVD where there *is* picture information, then all you'd get back is the 2004 DVD picture. And I'd be inclined to think you'd then see the edge pretty clearly.

Even lining up the 2004 DVD and the JSC would take longer than the day or so X0-1138 purports to have been working on this.

On a vaguely-related topic, one experiment I've never tried is to use ColourLike() to give an HD target the same colour palette as the JSC.

 

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#531733
Topic
Legacy
Time

Here is a cap I made from the JSC of (probably) the same frame as X0-1138:

 

If you look at the right-side edge, X0-1138's "cap" has more information than appears on the JSC.

Ergo, either X0-1138 is significantly better at this than anyone before him (or her??), or the image is not from the JSC.

 

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#531279
Topic
Legacy
Time

Interesting that we're still talkin' about LD transfers after all this time...

The X0 Project screen cap wasn't a hoax. It was a proof-of-concept, using some borrowed proprietary equipment. Sadly, only Laserman knew the details of exactly what was done, and how.

Even just making a good LD cap is *hard*. I've got three copies of the JSC, plus a very competent player (a Pioneer LD-V4300D), plus Laserman's personal cap card, and still it's tricky. (Of course, I haven't tried it for a while. Now that the Blu-Ray is even further off-track in some areas, it might be time to pull out my stuff and give it another whirl....)

Once the caps are done, then lining everything up to use TooT is a bit tricky, too (and keep in mind I created the concept, if not the programming, so I know what I'm doing).

What's needed thereafter is some custom processing -- but that's also tough as hell, because all the sources would probably have to be lined up manually.

And, at the same time you're working on a good LD-cap project, things like Mike Verta's 'Legacy Edition' and other good work get done, and make all your hard work look sorta futile.

Which is where the X0 Project got to, and then ran out of steam. Which, personally, I'm really sorry and bummed about.

So I'll sort of quietly be looking forward to -- and yet skeptical about -- this new project. My take thus far is that it's got more than enough enthusiasm from X0-1138, but is lacking in technical chops. I would be delighted to be proven wrong!

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#344071
Topic
[tv series] -> _the_clone_wars_
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doubleofive said:

Maybe someone should start archiving the SkyHD versions just in case.

There's at least one guy on a BT site I frequent that caps eps at 1080p, OAR, and then posts 'em. He also downsamples to 720p and posts that, as well.

There's also somebody here (prolly reading this thread, even) who has capped ep 10 (and others?) but who doesn't (yet) know how to get the stuff off his SkyHD box. I'll bet he susses it out pretty quick, though.

In any case, yeah, it's lookin' like it'll be possible to watch these in 2.35:1 from here on out, one way or another.

It'd be cool to be able to match the SkyHD video with the CN audio: 1080p at 23.976fps would be perfect!

Still don't get why CN crops theirs. SW stuff is, and always has been, scope!

(Except for the Holiday Special, I guess...)

 

 

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#343238
Topic
[tv series] -> _the_clone_wars_
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I have now confirmed The Clone Wars is natively 2.35:1. Episodes are shown at their OAR on Sky HD, but are cropped to 16:9 on Cartoon Network.

I've made screen caps to prove it:

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/121/logoskyhd320highiq7.th.jpg
Sky HD

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2241/logocn320highfc9.th.jpg
Cartoon Network HD

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3675/piratesskyhd320highkz0.th.jpg
Sky HD

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6367/piratescn320highoe4.th.jpg
Cartoon Network

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5388/lightsaberskyhd320highvs4.th.jpg
Sky HD

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4908/lightsabercn320highbx6.th.jpg
Cartoon Network

All caps made in MediaPlayer Classic Home Cinema, as PNG files at full size. Full Size for the Sky HD encode I have is 1280 x 544 (2.35:1), although the shows are broadcast at 1080p. Full size for my Cartoon Network version is 1280 x 720 (16:9, or 1.78:1); don't know what the broadcast resolution is. Sky HD caps are from Episode 11. Cartoon Network caps are from the recap of Episode 11, at the beginning of Episode 12. Images shown here are JPG, at a constant height of 320 px.

You'll also note that SkyHD doesn't have any annoying logos on the picture at any time.

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#343189
Topic
[tv series] -> _the_clone_wars_
Time
doubleofive said:

The episodes are 16:9 (HDTV ratio) originally, not 2:35:1 (film ratio).

I respectfully disagree. I compared screen caps, and the opening of the Sky HD version shows all the stars that CN shows (i.e. full height), plus more on both sides. I sincerely doubt the creators would make a 2.35:1 opening starfield for release to British TV, and then crop the show itself. It's probably possible to confirm this by comparing some shots from the show -- something I might do tonight.

Just because I'm that big a nerd, yo.

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#322667
Topic
Wookiegroomers 1080p Star Wars Saga
Time
negative1 said:

but it will be a cold day in ***** before i ever touch a newsgroup,

or post files there (see my sig)....torrents work for me, so i don't

mess with anything else......besides here in the US, some providers

are cutting off the whole alt.* newsgroups anyways...

later

-1

 

Off-topic, but I gotta fix some FUD:

I have a 10Mb/sec down connection, and with a premium news host (like any of Giganews, Easynews, UsenetServer, etc.) I can completely saturate my connection. ALL THE TIME. Usenet is NOT inherently slow! Not too sure about inefficient -- but if it's able to consistently fire 10 Mb/sec into my computer, whether it's really efficient or not is moot.

I'm also a member at several private tracker sites, and I do get good torrent speeds. Some even run at 10 Mb/sec down. But definitely not all torrents run that quickly. On Usenet, *everything* runs fast! So if I have a choice between the two methods (Usenet or BitTorrent) for a given file, I always choose Usenet.

With a premium news server, NOMP, and a subscription to Newzbin, Usenet can be just about as convenient as BT.

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#322664
Topic
Wookiegroomers 1080p Star Wars Saga
Time

Doing a little housekeeping, now that I have an HP MediaSmart server, and I find that I've got two separate downloads of some of the WG stuff. First thing I noticed is that the two copies of the 8GB Jedi I have are different sizes, by just a few bytes. D'oh!

I've looked through this thread and all the .NFO files, and I don't see file hashes or CRC32 numbers available. Could you (yes, you, person-who's-reading-this) post the CRC32 numbers (or MD5 hashes) for whatever WG files you've got (8GB or 13GB, any Episode), so (a) I can dump whichever of my two copies is corrupt; and (b) we can make sure the checksum info is available for whoever else checks down the road?

Thanks!

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#309097
Topic
Wookiegroomers 1080p Star Wars Saga
Time
Originally posted by: Moth3rSince we can't locate the screenshots [demonstrating standard def downconversion from hi-def 1080p files, I made my own:

2004 DVD (PAL):
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4914/paldvdte5.png

HD downscale:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7115/hddownscalety0.png

And for reference, here's the full 1080p sample:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5554/fullhdei4.png


Thanks, Moth3r. To me, those samples say, "Don't waste your time -- just buy the DVDs."

I figure it would be smarter to spend the time it would take to do a good job of downsampling HD to DVD at one's job, earning enough money to buy an Xbox 360 so one could watch the native 1080p version.

Unless...

Maybe it's possible to downconvert the 2004 DVDs to make a more detailed LD version!

(CED, anybody?)

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#308614
Topic
Wookiegroomers 1080p Star Wars Saga
Time
Originally posted by: Darth Mallwalker

Since we're wildy speculating...

If the O-neg "could be gotten a hold of"
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.
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then all we need is a telecine house willing to touch it. Right K ?


Right!

But let me put it this way: If we had three things to do: (1) get the O-neg from somewhere; (2) find a telecine house to transfer it using their Datacine (or some other nice HD rig); and (3) for some reason, get the O-neg to the transfer house which just happened to be located on the International Space Station, then I'd want to be in charge of #3, because it's probably easier than either #1 or #2.

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#308089
Topic
Wookiegroomers 1080p Star Wars Saga
Time
Originally posted by: Dunedain
I take it the source of these are the high definition versions that were broadcast in England? If so, has a correction been applied to the video and to the audio to get rid of the PAL speed up, so the video and audio now play at the same speed they would if they had been broadcast in NTSC format originally? Thanks for any info.


Actually, I think the source for most of the Wookie Groomer 1080p versions was German. The British SkyTV transfers were lacking in bitrate. Not as much as the sucky US broadcasts, but still the German ones were the best. Unfortunately (for English speakers), the German versions were dubbed and had German-language subs and title crawl. So I believe those scenes are from the Sky Broadcast.

The framerate has been dropped to 23.976, and audio is English with the correct pitch, in 5.1 channels.

The fact that it's the 2004 DVD-spec movie aside, these are amazing, amazing transfers. And the 10GB+ versions go some way to fixing even those inherent problems!

Wookie Groomer is my favourite HD super-freak.

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#306744
Topic
GOUT Anti-aliasing
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I was actually pretty pleased with how easy it was to set up my HTPC and new LCD TV. I thought there might be quite a bit of fiddling around to get the picture the right shape, and to reduce overscan, etc. Turns out, all I needed to do was plug in the Monoprice DVI-to-HDMI cable I bought, turn on the computer, select "just scan" on my TV, and voila! I was done. Perfect!
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#306717
Topic
GOUT Anti-aliasing
Time
Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Buying a large computer monitor doesn't sound bad but I think it's a bit unpractical if you want to watch tv.


Most new 1080p LCD TV sets have DVI or HDMI support, and a "just scan" (or similarly-labelled) mode, where they have a nice 1:1 computer-to-screen pixel correspondence with no overscan. So they act exactly like a large computer monitor and you can watch TV.

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#303689
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES)
Time
Yeah, and I guess the brilliant OCP could also predict that if one of the important members of The XØ Project was fighting a life-threatening illness that progress might crawl for a while. Wow, OCP sure showed us, huh?

Those involved with The XØ Project are still here, while OCP's long gone. With the release of the GOUT, The XØ Project has demonstrated it is still relevant, while OCP's work is passe. I'd have to guess that the bar was upped by the release of the GOUT, and that it's now all the harder -- but also more worth it -- to do a good job improving on what's commonly available. There's also less time pressure to get something done before Lucasfilm does, since it doesn't look much like they're going to bother, period.

I'd like to see Laserman take care of himself above all else. Then I'd like to see The XØ Project live up to the sample frames posted. I'm young; I can wait.

My prediction: Regardless of what happens with The XØ Project, and regardless of when it happens, OCP will still be banned and his stuff will still be obsolete.
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#295718
Topic
.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES)
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Originally posted by: bkev
Keep in mind that Laserman is the genius and leader behind the project, so without him the team has trouble making any progress.


I don't think that's 100% true. I've had contact with Laserman off-forum (a while back; nothing new lately), and he's always been very keen to share his ideas and methods. So I very much doubt it's just inspiration -- 'genius'? -- that the X0 team is lacking.

Besides genius, another thing that Laserman has over just about anybody else around is access to wickedly cool toys! I know that the Black Magic system he had access to is very hard to come by. I think I can certainly forgive Zion and MBJ for not being able to make the same sort of progress without access to the same hardware and software.