Lord Haseo said:
You’re still ignoring the fact that the setting makes the actions of the people in play out very differently. If the Falcon had been doing any maneuvers and shit you’d be right. The stuff that actually happens in the scenes are far from similar. Answer these questions:
Did the Chewie almost crash the Falcon before the chase began?
Did the Falcon bob and weave among other maneuvers to escape and/or destroy the TIEs?
Did Chewie fly into any structures to avoid a TIE Fighter?
Did one of the canon/s get shot?
Did the last TIE Fighter get destroyed due to the pilot maneuvering The Falcon in such a position so that the canon (while stuck) can get a perfect shot?
And that’s why I said the difference lies mostly in being on the ground. Like you pointed out, there’s also the gun jamming, but otherwise you get lots of visual references and a rehashed plot point: the main characters are escaping with the Falcon while chased by two TIEs. It’s still a remake, but thankfully it’s not exactly the same scene, but if you ask me why I prefer the PT when it comes down to shared references, it’s because in the PT there’s not a single scene that has so many “references”, it always feels more fresh. Again, in comparison the astreoid chase in AOTC only shares the setting (which actually looks very different), but not only plays completely differently, its plot point is completely different too, not even similar.
The PT has a solid reason to make Anakin’s journey mirror Luke’s
Because Lucas. That’s what this is all about when we get down to it. People are fine when Lucas takes stuff from Flash Gordan, Akira Kurosawa films (both in SW and TPM), Dam Busters etc. and even when he does it to himself. It’s just written off as paying homage and in the PT’s case…poetry but when JJ does it it’s considering ripping off.
Like Lucas, if J.J. wants to make “poetry”, he also has to give us a solid and coherent reason, or it really is just ripping off.
but can you tell me what character mirrors who in the OT and for what reason?
I meant in TFA, maybe I wasn’t clear enough, sorry 😄
Similitarities with who or what and why?
To Luke I guess and the reason being the whole history repeating itself thing. They seem to be mirroring Rey’s journey less than Luke’s so I hope they go in a completely different direction from here on out.
Are you sure, though? See how she also mirrors with Leia.
It all comes down to the reason one would mirror two characters or situations.
I disagree. In terms of the conversation I think the things that happen in the scenes matter more than the intent or even the outcome of such scenes.
I’m not sure I understand what you mean.
So Rey was aboard a ship with the stolen SKB plans and was stunned by a Storm Trooper after putting it in a droid and then is interrogated with a mind probe droid as to the location of The Resistance base and then is rescued by one of our main characters masquerading as a Storm Trooper? I guess I need to watch the film again…
It’s a mirrored plot point, there’s no reason to deny it. If you think it isn’t, considering Anakin meeting Qui-gon on Tatooine mirrors Luke’s meeting with Ben, tell me when did Luke have to work for Watto, play in a podrace to win his freedom, promise her mother he’ll be back to free her too. Same with Anakin destroying the droid control ship: when did Luke join the attack disobeying his master? Do you remember when Luke falls in love with Leia and later brings her to Naboo to protect her and marries her? What about Luke fighting side-by-side with Ben while Vader tried to escape? :\